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landcookie

Semi-Pro
Thanks for your response!
Was playing with a Gravity Pro a while back. Solid racket but it was like I was lagging around a 105" racket. Currently demoing a Prince 100x 305.
Amazing racket especially with some lead but even with this one, when playing the feeling is more jarring through the air than my dr98+.
That's why I'm kind of hesitant to go for the tc100 or the tc101...
DR98+ doesn't have much in the hoop area in terms of mass so that may be the difference you're feeling. The Angell won't be much different to the gravity pro I would think, although the GP is rounder in head shape. I'd just try the 97.
 

BPlain

Semi-Pro
If you have any type of elbow problem, I would recommend staying from a poly and going a synthetic string. You can string the synthetic string tighter and it will still be arm friendly. I have not used a poly string for a while and my elbow and shoulder feel good.

I've definitely found some less stiff polys that don't bother my elbow – especially with how flexible the K7 Red is. I'm just seeing how stiff I can go with different hybrid set ups without that pain. If/when I run out of poly options, I'll switch to a tighter strung full bed of synthetic or hybrid with synthetic. Pain free certainly trumps everything else as this point!
 

razuzin

New User
How does one get in touch with Angell CS or Paul Angell?
I sent emails to both CS and Paul and got no response.
Wanted to know whether TC95 custom V1, not the V3, can still be ordered.
 

Tezroza

New User
I contacted them through their contact email, then sent a message on facebook about it like a week later and Paul just emailed me directly.
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
Thanks for your response!
Was playing with a Gravity Pro a while back. Solid racket but it was like I was lagging around a 105" racket. Currently demoing a Prince 100x 305.
Amazing racket especially with some lead but even with this one, when playing the feeling is more jarring through the air than my dr98+.
That's why I'm kind of hesitant to go for the tc100 or the tc101...

I came from mid-size (93-95) and went to 100 sq.in. Prince racquets, the Phantom Pro 100P (1st version) and the Classic Graphite 100. Both great frames, but they could be a bit cumbersome to wield. I attribute this to the very round head shape. I have been playing with the TC100 for the past month, and have no such issue with it. It doesn't drag. Perhaps that's due to the elongated head shape, as another poster alluded to.
 

Tezroza

New User
yeah I heard somewhere here that Paul was sick so that probably contributed to it. I'd gladly wait a week again for the advice and suggestions he gave in a heartbeat though
 

EdmondTW

New User
New to the thread.

I'm buying new racquets and came across Angell. I was thrilled there are so many fans but I've never heard of this brand.

It seems really hard to demo this racquet in the States. Can someone compare Angell TC97 16X19 to Pro Staff 16x19, Pure Strike 16x19, Pure Drive 16x19 and Yonex Ezone 98 16x19 in terms of feel, control and power? In terms of specs, we can use the Pure Strike as a standard. I have the green Wimbledon version from 2018. Pre-strung weight is 305g, but I'm not sure about its swing weight since it's not on the racquet. I think it's about 320 before modification based on what I can find online (but not sure if it's reliable since I noticed discrepancies between different sites).

I recently tried the Ezone 98 16x19. I had very high hopes because of the overwhelming good reviews on the internet, but I had no luck, I didn't like the feel of the racquet, it felt too muted to me, I didn't feel connected to the ball. Among all racquets I used, I'd say I like Pure Strike the most. I like the solid contact it gives me and I am very connected to the ball.

I'm actually going to demo Tecnifibre RS 300/305. If anyone can compare Angell TC97 16X19 to those racquets as well, that'd be great. Also, is Angell TC97 18x20 very much under powered?

Thanks in advance! I don't want to keep searching for the perfect racquet. It's too painful. I hope this is the racquet!
 

EdmondTW

New User
Angell V3 97 18x20 320 grams 310mm/10 pts HL

I can do what I want with these rackets. Hit as hard as I want while maintaining control. IMO just slightly different than the V2. I feel a little more stability, just a little less vibration but retaining feel and touch.
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hey do you have experience with Pure Strike or Pro Staff? How do these racquets feel compare to those ones? I assume it doesn't have much power at all?
 

EdmondTW

New User
Hi everybody, new to the forum and new to Angell racquets, I've been thinking about getting a pair for a while but never committed to it, finally got a pair of V3 95 off the bay, I believe from one user here.

At 27.5", 310g/31.5cm, 16x19, this stick is a serving monster, better that my old trusted PS85...and that's saying a lot!!

My only gripe is the grip size, I'm trying to get new pallets but didn't get any response from the manufacturer yet. Someone has ever purchased the pallets from Angell and done the replacement by himself? I'm gathering that it will void the warranty, not that it concerns me particularly, I live in Dominican Republic, shipping from here to anywhere costs more than the racquet itself.

Happy Angell hitting to everyone!
Didn't know Angell racquets have replaceable pallets?
 

Tezroza

New User
New to the thread.

I'm buying new racquets and came across Angell. I was thrilled there are so many fans but I've never heard of this brand.

It seems really hard to demo this racquet in the States. Can someone compare Angell TC97 16X19 to Pro Staff 16x19, Pure Strike 16x19, Pure Drive 16x19 and Yonex Ezone 98 16x19 in terms of feel, control and power? In terms of specs, we can use the Pure Strike as a standard. I have the green Wimbledon version from 2018. Pre-strung weight is 305g, but I'm not sure about its swing weight since it's not on the racquet. I think it's about 320 before modification based on what I can find online (but not sure if it's reliable since I noticed discrepancies between different sites).

I recently tried the Ezone 98 16x19. I had very high hopes because of the overwhelming good reviews on the internet, but I had no luck, I didn't like the feel of the racquet, it felt too muted to me, I didn't feel connected to the ball. Among all racquets I used, I'd say I like Pure Strike the most. I like the solid contact it gives me and I am very connected to the ball.

I'm actually going to demo Tecnifibre RS 300/305. If anyone can compare Angell TC97 16X19 to those racquets as well, that'd be great. Also, is Angell TC97 18x20 very much under powered?

Thanks in advance! I don't want to keep searching for the perfect racquet. It's too painful. I hope this is the racquet!
I own a TC97 18x20 310g 9pts head light, but can only speak for the difference between this and a pure strike as I used to use a 3rd gen pure strike. For me the TC97 wins in almost every single category besides power. Better control, feel, comfort, stability, touch, serving, etc. The Pure Strike 3rd gen is like a boom stick, the power I can generate with that racquet is crazy but really hard to handle. As someone who generates lots of power naturally and has a sensitive elbow, the TC97 is just better for me across the board. You may be different though.
 

emhtennis

Professional
New to the thread.

I'm buying new racquets and came across Angell. I was thrilled there are so many fans but I've never heard of this brand.

It seems really hard to demo this racquet in the States. Can someone compare Angell TC97 16X19 to Pro Staff 16x19, Pure Strike 16x19, Pure Drive 16x19 and Yonex Ezone 98 16x19 in terms of feel, control and power? In terms of specs, we can use the Pure Strike as a standard. I have the green Wimbledon version from 2018. Pre-strung weight is 305g, but I'm not sure about its swing weight since it's not on the racquet. I think it's about 320 before modification based on what I can find online (but not sure if it's reliable since I noticed discrepancies between different sites).

I recently tried the Ezone 98 16x19. I had very high hopes because of the overwhelming good reviews on the internet, but I had no luck, I didn't like the feel of the racquet, it felt too muted to me, I didn't feel connected to the ball. Among all racquets I used, I'd say I like Pure Strike the most. I like the solid contact it gives me and I am very connected to the ball.

I'm actually going to demo Tecnifibre RS 300/305. If anyone can compare Angell TC97 16X19 to those racquets as well, that'd be great. Also, is Angell TC97 18x20 very much under powered?

Thanks in advance! I don't want to keep searching for the perfect racquet. It's too painful. I hope this is the racquet!
I play the 18x20 and don't think it is underpowered at all. I've hit my biggest serves with it.

Can't speak to the 16x19. It would probably play pretty similar to your pure strike. I still have 3x 1st gen pure strike 16x19s. Biggest difference is the free help from high in the string bed and launch angle.

Bottom line, if you want a racket that feels great and will push you to play your best go with the 97. If you want a little more help and free power go with the 100.
 

EdmondTW

New User
I play the 18x20 and don't think it is underpowered at all. I've hit my biggest serves with it.

Can't speak to the 16x19. It would probably play pretty similar to your pure strike. I still have 3x 1st gen pure strike 16x19s. Biggest difference is the free help from high in the string bed and launch angle.

Bottom line, if you want a racket that feels great and will push you to play your best go with the 97. If you want a little more help and free power go with the 100.
Thanks! Set aside power, it should be a relatively smooth transition to the TC97 from a Pure Strike?
 

emhtennis

Professional
Thanks! Set aside power, it should be a relatively smooth transition to the TC97 from a Pure Strike?
I would say that if you go with the Angell 16x19 and (for now) keep your same string and tension then the transition would indeed be pretty easy.

Are you intending to order specs pretty close to the pure strike? That is where the bigger differences will come in. If you order something that is overly headlight or a lot heavier than the Pure Strike then it would be more of an adjustment.
 

EdmondTW

New User
I would say that if you go with the Angell 16x19 and (for now) keep your same string and tension then the transition would indeed be pretty easy.

Are you intending to order specs pretty close to the pure strike? That is where the bigger differences will come in. If you order something that is overly headlight or a lot heavier than the Pure Strike then it would be more of an adjustment.

Yes, I think I will order the 300g one then add lead to work my way up. Angell's website doesn't tell you the SW. I thought SW is a more important spec. Actually, do you know if the listed static weight includes the weight of the replacement grip? I'm new to this customized racquets thing.
 
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EdmondTW

New User
I've heard very good things about the TC97. Does anyone in New York City have one I can try before I pull the trigger? I want to try the 300g or 310g unstrung with a 1/8 or 1/4 grip. Thanks in advance!!!
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
Yes, I think I will order the 300g one then add lead to work my way up. Angell's website doesn't tell you the SW. I thought SW is a more important spec. Actually, do you know if the listed static weight includes the weight of the replacement grip? I'm new to this customized racquets thing.

As Tezroza has mentioned, the static weight includes your grip of choice. If going for a 300g frame, I would suggest getting it with the PU grip. This way, if you feel that the racquet is a bit light in stock form, you can switch to a leather grip, which should put the static weight closer to 310g, and then maybe a few g of lead in the hoop to counterbalance it.
 

Dan007

Hall of Fame
I heard the tc95 is actually slightly bigger or at least big as the RF97/PS97 headsize. Can anyone with both rackets attest to this?
 

BPlain

Semi-Pro
Played again this morning (day two) for 2 hours and definitely started feeling it in my elbow about 30 minutes in with the fully bed of Halo Spin 7 in my K7 Red. I switched to my backup K7 Red which I still have strung as a hybrid with Halo 4 in the mains and Halo Touch in the crosses. It definitely felt much better elbow-wise but my control suffered. I'm not surprised as the Halo Spin 7 is significantly stiffer than any full bed poly I've played with recently. I'm going to now try two different hybrid set ups – Halo Spin 7 in the mains in both and then one with Halo Four in the crosses, and one with Halo Touch in the crosses. Hopefully one of them should be the happy medium I'm looking for without any elbow pain. I think I'm getting closer to something I can stick with for awhile though.

Played around four hours over two days this past weekend with my K7 Red with Halo Spin 7 1.25 in the mains and Halo Four 1.18 in the crosses, both strung at 50 lbs. I really liked this set up.

Most importantly, no elbow pain. The stiffer Spin 7 in the mains helped with overall control and while the Four (a square string) in the crosses added spin, touch, and placement. It was nice to be back to missing shots completely due to operator error as opposed to being able to blame the strings :)

I've got my second K7 Red set up with Halo Spin 7 1.25 in the mains, Halo Touch 1.20 in the crosses to try as well but I liked the Spin 7 / Halo Four combo so much, I'll hold off on trying that until the Spin 7 / Halo Four combo breaks. Assuming it lasts me another 4 hours or more, I think I've finally found winning string combination for both my game and managing my elbow pain.
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
Dang that's a sweet looking balance board:

 

Sardines

Hall of Fame
I finally had a play test with a TC100 V3 27.5 70RA 310g 6pts HL that a friend gave me. Strung with VSTonic+Feel/PRCW18g @59(10%Prestretch)/56lbs, specs modded to 345g/6ptsHL strung. Swingweight hasn't been modded yet because I want to see how it plays, the string pattern being more open than my SV98+ and already crept up to the SV98+ 346g without hoop weighting. I have to say it surprised me in how much feel there was. It is very plush and creamy like a RF97, even at 70RA, but without the weight. It is surprisingly "flickable" and swings well. It did require a timing change, despite the similarity in weight.
It is a definite feel controlled power frame, where you can swing as hard as you want, vs a powered control frame that is my SV98+, which gives great reserves of power, but has a narrow band of feel. The TC100 feedback is very nice, but for such an open pattern, I expected more bite and launch angle. It isn't there. I had to adjust for more spin for every stroke.
Personally, if I were in my late 30s, I'd have jumped on this frame. It has great feel and dampening for a 70RA, power is decent but it's about the ability to control the biggest shots. Back then, I'd love this feel and forgiveness, and could've done without the shanks of the 90 frame that were increasingly creeping in every year. Now, I can forgo the feel to be able to hit bigger when I need, as my fast twitch muscles have atrophied with age. YMMV!
 
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djNEiGht

Legend
would you say that the Diadem Impulse is a "powerful" multifilament or low/medium powered?
IIRC it helped tame the power of the TC100 so I would say it is a low/medium string. I've tried Impulse also in a vCore 97 HG full bed and that was a low powered racquet. In there it felt like it provided good feedback. I let it sit for a while because of playing with other racquets. When I came back to it after a long time it felt launchy. So just take that w a grain of salt as it prob lost enough tension to be a different animal from when fresh. Gravity MP used it with Ghostwire crosses. This reminded me of gut/poly and was really happy with it.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
reminded you in terms of FEEL but not POWER though right?
IIRC it had decent power in that combo but I also didn't get the racquet set up with lead as I would have liked. There wasn't as much bite as a shaped poly so the ball landed further IMO in the court. No lack of spin. What I took away from it was the feel was a good alternative to gut/poly if on a budget or playing in wet conditions. I hope I'm helping and not confusing you. YMMV
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
IIRC it had decent power in that combo but I also didn't get the racquet set up with lead as I would have liked. There wasn't as much bite as a shaped poly so the ball landed further IMO in the court. No lack of spin. What I took away from it was the feel was a good alternative to gut/poly if on a budget or playing in wet conditions. I hope I'm helping and not confusing you. YMMV
very helpful with maybe a tad bit of confusion. Not so concerned about spin or price just the power. It doesnt help that this was so long ago but i am grateful for any answers, regardless. Is there another multi maybe you coupd compare it to just in terms of power? Again i am very grateful for this information.
 

djNEiGht

Legend
very helpful with maybe a tad bit of confusion. Not so concerned about spin or price just the power. It doesnt help that this was so long ago but i am grateful for any answers, regardless. Is there another multi maybe you coupd compare it to just in terms of power? Again i am very grateful for this information.
yeah...i was/am worried i'm confusing you.

a comparable multi that I can think of is Gamma Professional. I used this also with Ghostwire crosses.
 

EdmondTW

New User
As Tezroza has mentioned, the static weight includes your grip of choice. If going for a 300g frame, I would suggest getting it with the PU grip. This way, if you feel that the racquet is a bit light in stock form, you can switch to a leather grip, which should put the static weight closer to 310g, and then maybe a few g of lead in the hoop to counterbalance it.

Thanks for the advice. I'll do that.

for a 95, the TC95 seems larger than other 95 si racquets. It might be that Angell measures differently (inside hoop vs outside hoop)

hmm pretty much all racquet brands measure the inside hoop tho? If Angell does that same, then it's a true 95, if Angell measures the outside hoop, then it should be smaller than 95, it's really interesting that the TC 95 seems bigger than other 95s.

On another note, I have read a lot of reviews on TC 97 and TC 95 in this thread and decided to go with either TC 97 16X19 or TC 95 18X20, I wonder if TC 97 16X19 has a much larger sweet spot or other significant advantage over the TC95 18X20. If someone who has first hand experience with both racquets can give a quick comparison, that'd be awesome. I think I'm very close to pull the trigger.
 
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Rysty

Rookie
About the size (This is not so important, just saying): I have compared TC 95 to other 95s and 98s. TC 95 is larger than the 95s of other brands, and only very slightly smaller than 98s. So, it must be something like 96-97, not a true 95.
 

Sardines

Hall of Fame
For those stringing the TC100 V3 16x19, my stringer is complaining for the 2nd last cross, the hole @ 9H is blocked by the 2 mains going through 7T/8T in the grommet and a PITA to get pass. Since I use gut, he's afraid to use an awl, so he mentioned having to put a tube there to hold the space the 2nd time he strung it to make sure he didn't damage the 15Lish gut mains. Is this correct or does he have the wrong pattern? I looked up the site and the stringing instructions show 3 strings are side by side. Is that right?

TC100 string instructions
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
About the size (This is not so important, just saying): I have compared TC 95 to other 95s and 98s. TC 95 is larger than the 95s of other brands, and only very slightly smaller than 98s. So, it must be something like 96-97, not a true 95.

I can confirm this. I have a Prince TT95 and a TC95, they both have the same head shape, and the TC95 is slightly longer. I also have a Head MG Radical 98 and the TC95 is very very close to this size.
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
For those stringing the TC100 V3 16x19, my stringer is complaining for the 2nd last cross, the hole @ 9H is blocked by the 2 mains going through 7T/8T in the grommet and a PITA to get pass. Since I use gut, he's afraid to use an awl, so he mentioned having to put a tube there to hold the space the 2nd time he strung it to make sure he didn't damage the 15Lish gut mains. Is this correct or does he have the wrong pattern? I looked up the site and the stringing instructions show 3 strings are side by side. Is that right?

TC100 string instructions

Yes this is a problem with the blocked holes until you find your way, there are many different ways. My solution was to get this tool, works really well and also no problem using an awl with gut.


There are many different ways, I tried a lot of them but the Pathfinder Awl is by far the best IMO
 

esm

Legend
I also have a Head MG Radical 98 and the TC95 is very very close to this size.
As the MG Radical MP grommet also fits the PT630/2.0, so it is actually a 95, instead of the advertised 98. So it should be very close to the TC95.
can’t remember when Head started to measure the inside of their racquet for the head size though.
 

Sardines

Hall of Fame
Yes this is a problem with the blocked holes until you find your way, there are many different ways. My solution was to get this tool, works really well and also no problem using an awl with gut.


There are many different ways, I tried a lot of them but the Pathfinder Awl is by far the best IMO
Ah ok. He apparently used the tool on the first string job and it damaged the thick gut, resulting the string snapping at that point. He took a pic and showed me how little space there was to work with (almost none!) once he strung up the 15L gut., even with 1.2mm string. I guess it's a 'quirk' of the TC100 string pattern.
 

esm

Legend
For those stringing the TC100 V3 16x19, my stringer is complaining for the 2nd last cross, the hole @ 9H is blocked by the 2 mains going through 7T/8T in the grommet and a PITA to get pass. Since I use gut, he's afraid to use an awl, so he mentioned having to put a tube there to hold the space the 2nd time he strung it to make sure he didn't damage the 15Lish gut mains. Is this correct or does he have the wrong pattern? I looked up the site and the stringing instructions show 3 strings are side by side. Is that right?

TC100 string instructions
Another option is to leave a piece of string in place, and remove it for the second last cross when the time comes.
 

Sardines

Hall of Fame
Another option is to leave a piece of string in place, and remove it for the second last cross when the time comes.
Thanks for that, but I'll leave that to him since I'm paying him for his expertise. I was just checking if anyone else had that problem. Seems like a slight flaw in string grommet design if someone wants to use thicker strings (15L or thicker). I've looked at it, there was NOT enough space for a 3rd string without it sticking out, and the cross does stick out now.
 

EdmondTW

New User
If I get the TC 97 16X19 300g/325mm or TC 95 18X20 300g/325mm, what would be the strung Swing Weight? I use Alu Power 16L. Angell's website doesn't have the information.
 

EdmondTW

New User
why are you not considering TC95 16x19 or TC97 18x20 ?

There seems to be a consensus that TC95 is actually bigger than a standard 95 and TC 95 is more powerful than TC 97, however, TC 95 16X19 appears to be too powerful and TC 97 18X20 seems to be too muted and very low powered.
 
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edelp

Semi-Pro
If I get the TC 97 16X19 300g/325mm or TC 95 18X20 300g/325mm, what would be the strung Swing Weight? I use Alu Power 16L. Angell's website doesn't have the information.

Just as examples, even though different patterns: my TC95 16x19 has an unstrung SW of 295, end up with 16gauge poly and anti at 328. My TC97 18x20 has an unstrung SW of 304 and shows currently with a 18gauge string 338SW. both are unstrung 300gr and 32,5cm
 
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