The Shape Of Things To Come: Denis Shapovalov!

Pmasterfunk

Hall of Fame
Wow, a convincing win:
  • on clay
  • against a clay veteran
  • on his first match on the surface this year
I'm glad he's starting to win these tricky matches not only more consistently, but convincingly as well. No matter who he plays, I'm always wondering if good-Denis or bad-Denis is going to show up (a Wimby 2001 reference there). He was 2-6 on clay last year, but some bad luck of the draw was involved.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Wow, a convincing win:
  • on clay
  • against a clay veteran
  • on his first match on the surface this year
I'm glad he's starting to win these tricky matches not only more consistently, but convincingly as well. No matter who he plays, I'm always wondering if good-Denis or bad-Denis is going to show up (a Wimby 2001 reference there). He was 2-6 on clay last year, but some bad luck of the draw was involved.
Live-tennis is listing Rome, Hamburg and RG on his schedule so he is committed to improvement on his weakest surface. However, I wouldn’t be surprised If Hamburg goes away with a win vs Martinez. Should he win later today he has either Humbert (Shapo Lite) or floundering Fognini before an encounter with a non-repentant Sinner :love:
 

Pmasterfunk

Hall of Fame
I just watched the highlights against Pella, and doubles seems to have really helped with his net positioning. He managed to get a lot of shots that I expected to pass him (and most players these days) by.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
I just watched the highlights against Pella, and doubles seems to have really helped with his net positioning. He managed to get a lot of shots that I expected to pass him (and most players these days) by.
Shapo has very good reach. His arm span is like 7'.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
An 11am start for Shapo on Thursday on centre court at the Foro Italico in Rome where he takes on the Spaniard Pedro Martinez in a second-round singles match. This will be the first meeting between the two players.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Very tidy win in 1:40 for Shapo, 4&4, despite some service woes (broken twice, under 50%, DFs (2), aces (3). He managed to attack Martinez’s serve to get four breaks of his own and won 45% of the return points.

The Fognini/Humbert winner is next in the R16.
 

Pmasterfunk

Hall of Fame
Very tidy win in 1:40 for Shapo, 4&4, despite some service woes (broken twice, under 50%, DFs (2), aces (3). He managed to attack Martinez’s serve to get four breaks of his own and won 45% of the return points.

The Fognini/Humbert winner is next in the R16.
Martinez was outclassed before the match started, but Shapo managed to make a match out of it.

Shapo almost pulling a Stan here, spraying errors left and right and missing just about every first serve he could. Managed to grab that first set fairly convincingly anyway, but in the second Pedro Martinez turned into Pedro Gruntinez, and his level improved. Thankfully Shaps managed to up his game as well after being down a break, and both guys seemed to start a noise competition. The grunting and "come on"s and "bamos"es were pretty overt, and the atmosphere between the two guys was pretty tense. Denis played a couple solid points to break and serve for the match, avoiding a potentially grindy and exhausting third set. Not a match to remember, but a well fought grindy win nonetheless.

3rd round against Humble Humbert or Fabious Fog. Hard to predict who's going through given the Frenchman's inconsistency and the Italian's, er, mercuriality, and harder to predict how the winner is going to perform tomorrow, combined with Shapo's own, er, ups-and-downs... we all see where I'm going here. I'm hoping for an entertaining match, but I'm not discounting a total sheetshow.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Shapo and bopanna upset the top seeds Cabal and Farah to move the quarters in doubles, Shapo had success with return serves to the front deuce court at a high angle that were impossible to get, even if it had been me that he was up against.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Martinez was outclassed before the match started, but Shapo managed to make a match out of it.

Shapo almost pulling a Stan here, spraying errors left and right and missing just about every first serve he could. Managed to grab that first set fairly convincingly anyway, but in the second Pedro Martinez turned into Pedro Gruntinez, and his level improved. Thankfully Shaps managed to up his game as well after being down a break, and both guys seemed to start a noise competition. The grunting and "come on"s and "bamos"es were pretty overt, and the atmosphere between the two guys was pretty tense. Denis played a couple solid points to break and serve for the match, avoiding a potentially grindy and exhausting third set. Not a match to remember, but a well fought grindy win nonetheless.

3rd round against Humble Humbert or Fabious Fog. Hard to predict who's going through given the Frenchman's inconsistency and the Italian's, er, mercuriality, and harder to predict how the winner is going to perform tomorrow, combined with Shapo's own, er, ups-and-downs... we all see where I'm going here. I'm hoping for an entertaining match, but I'm not discounting a total sheetshow.
Humbert it is. Fognini is quite off; maybe the recovery from the ankle surgery is still a factor. He’s now 4-8 in 2020 and two of those wins were in 5th set TBs at AO.

All lefty matchups were a sh1tshow for Shapo in 2018 but he fixed that in 2019, including a win over Humbert in three sets on clay at Lyon. Humbert won their QF in Auckland on his way to his first title in January’20.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Denis defeated Humbert in 3. First set was a crap fest with Denis double-faulting and sparying errors. He cleaned everything up significantly to take the next 2 sets. But, a lot of screaming! When did he start screaming after every point? Oh well - into the quarters against Dimitrov (I think).
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Next match, with Dimitrov, is to get to top ten (and play Nadal in the Rome SFs)

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Ironwood

Professional
Thought Shapo might loose his shape altogether late in the third when the ump wouldn't reverse what looked like a long serve called in. But he didn't implode, as he has done in the past. What's with the retro Agassi shirt? The body and neck look two sizes to big, and the top is cut off at the bottom to sit above his waist!
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
So many nice changes for Denis - more patient, constructs points instead of trying to bash winners, learning to problem solve out there, way better at the net, and in general a much improved Denis 2.0. That being said, what is it with Dimitrov trying to imitate Federer in every aspect of his game?
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Well, after defeating Grigor Dimitrov, 6-2, 3-6, 6-2, in the quarter-finals in Rome earlier today, and becoming a member of the Top 10 for the first time, Shapo will now face none other than Diego Schwartzmann in tomorrow's semi-finals. The Argentine caused a big surprise by beating the King of Clay, Rafael Nadal, in straight sets in their quarter-final late on Saturday. Tomorrow's encounter will be a first meeting between Shapo and the 28-year-old from Buenos Aires.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
I swear Shap is a glutton for punishment losing marathon matches. It doesn't help he absolutely should be winning these too. I guess when he crosses over eventually it will be glorious.
 

Pmasterfunk

Hall of Fame
I swear Shap is a glutton for punishment losing marathon matches. It doesn't help he absolutely should be winning these too. I guess when he crosses over eventually it will be glorious.
I'm not sure that's a fair analysis. The guy just won 2 tough three setters in a row, and lost in a third set tiebreak to a clay specialist who just beat Nadal on clay. On a surface that doesn't play to his strengths.

Having said that, he really needs to start winning some tiebreaks, and his first serve percentage was way too low today (barring the second set) to trouble a guy like Schwartzman. Either that or improve the second serve, because he isn't winning many points on it.
 

BlueB

Legend
Shape has the tools and still improving. But, he's not ready to be a champ yet... That was a very non-cluch performance today.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
But, he's not ready to be a champ yet...
He will be soon enough. Fed didn't win his first slam until he was almost 22, so Denis has time. His net play and BH have improved dramatically since last year. His match against Diego today was the match of the year, very exciting stuff, even in defeat.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
The new ATP singles rankings were issued yesterday and show Shapo at no. 10, his first week there. He is still in with a chance of qualifying for the ATP Finals in London for the first time, although that particular tournament might not be held. Below are this week's singles rankings from no. 9 to no. 16 and some information on the players' records at the ATP Finals (in fact, only six of the eight players in question have ever qualified for the season-ending tournament):

Rank
Player
9​
Gael Monfils
Lone appearance came in 2016
10​
Denis Shapovalov
Seeks to qualify for 1st time
11​
Roberto Bautista Agut
Seeks to qualify for 1st time
12​
David Goffin
Reached final in last appearance in 2017
13​
Diego Schwartzman
Seeks to qualify for 1st time
14​
Andrey Rublev
Seeks to qualify for 1st time
15​
Fabio Fognini
Seeks to qualify for 1st time
16​
Karen Khachanov
Seeks to qualify for 1st time

 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Denis has only lost to Tsitsipas once since becoming pros, but it was on clay. As for Medvedev, I think his ability to be a "wall" and just get everything back would frustrated Denis esp. on clay. On hc, probably different.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Actually, right now his serve is his biggest enemy. Once again, he couldn't serve out a match. I have no doubt he'll fix this, but it's not a pattern you want to have to worry about. A scrappy match v. Simon. Neither guy could really hold their serve. Very strange match.

Medvedev is out and Rublev needed 5 sets to beat Querry (who should have won). Tsitsipas needed 5 sets to beat Munar. All three of these young guns played pretty spotty tennis today, but they all got through. Hope Denis can keep going. I would love to see him play either Tsitsipas or Rublev.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
A four-set win for Shapo against Gilles Simon in first-round singles action on Tuesday evening in Paris. The final score was 6-2, 7-5, 5-7, 6-3, and of those 41 games neatly half were won on breaks on serve. That's why, although it might not look like the closest of matches from the score alone, its outcome was uncertain until the very last point had been played.

The whole match might have pivoted on the ninth of the second set in which Simon, ahead 5-3, was serving and led 40-0 before Shapo fought back and took the game after saving another two set points. On one of them the Frenchman thought he had hit a winning serve, and the linesman agreed with him. But the umpire overruled the linesman and Simon lost the point, the game and, eventually, the set.

Shapo could have and probably should have won the match in three sets, but after leading 3-2 in the third set with his serve to follow, he was broken. This was the most worrying feature of the match from his point of view: his inability to hold serve at some of the crucial stages. A better player than Gilles Simon would have exploited this weakness to the full and might even have won the match.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
A four-set win for Shapo against Gilles Simon in first-round singles action on Tuesday evening in Paris. The final score was 6-2, 7-5, 5-7, 6-3, and of those 41 games neatly half were won on breaks on serve. That's why, although it might not look like the closest of matches from the score alone, its outcome was uncertain until the very last point had been played.

The whole match might have pivoted on the ninth of the second set in which Simon, ahead 5-3, was serving and led 40-0 before Shapo fought back and took the game after saving another two set points. On one of them the Frenchman thought he had hit a winning serve, and the linesman agreed with him. But the umpire overruled the linesman and Simon lost the point, the game and, eventually, the set.

Shapo could have and probably should have won the match in three sets, but after leading 3-2 in the third set with his serve to follow, he was broken. This was the most worrying feature of the match from his point of view: his inability to hold serve at some of the crucial stages. A better player than Gilles Simon would have exploited this weakness to the full and might even have won the match.
I always enjoy your take.
 

Ironwood

Professional
Shapo drives me crazy! He is so gifted but his ability to hit a winner from anywhere is his undoing. He’s down a 2-1 in sets to Carballes Baena and has committed 70 some unforced. Swings for the fences on everything.
 
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