Now, now, never would Nadal not "even be trying? "
and why has this thread gone back to Federer/Nadal????
There is life beyond these 2. Really there is.
Is Dimitrov destined for greatness?
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Now, now, never would Nadal not "even be trying? "
and why has this thread gone back to Federer/Nadal????
There is life beyond these 2. Really there is.
SoBad
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You know, figuratively speaking he wasn't trying. I am all against this thread or any thread being about Nadal/fed, that's how it turned out because of the everpresent *******s. Out of respect, I had to inform them of the truth. My thread was all about Dimitrov/Sofia/Varna and how everybody is going to break through this year.
DarthFed
Hall of Fame
That point will never get across
:-|:???:
:twisted: wow i think you shaved a few years off my life
SoBad
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That wasn't a myth though about Safin was it? So...
Maybe less a myth than an expectation not taking into account the person involved. It was more "given what we've seen it 2000, logically is should...."
But Safin never lent himself to logical thinking., and that's why he had so many fans and so much press over the years. He managed to keep the tennis world ever hopeful that they wouold be right by throwing in amazing tennis from time to time...his own time. Quite the career. One of a kind.
PS and we haven't quite given up yet.
RoddickAce
Hall of Fame
The logical response would be "it's too early to tell..." but that takes the point and fun out of it. If we all waited till he's ranked #1 or dropped out of the tour, who needs anyone to tell us whether he's destined for greatness? That said, I still say it's too early to tell
Nadal_Freak
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Lmao. Nice find but Nadal should be top of it.Yes, and there have been many discussions and studies on that, if you do a search. But basically the conclusion was that he does not look like a tennis player and is not good for tennis because of his image, cosmetics, purse, gamesmanship, etc. And also there were broader studies, and many tables illustrating, and actually this is one from that link I quoted earlier (which is why I am not sure how many slams):
ruerooo
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seffina
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Oh no, you're the only one. I want him to win a Masters this year.. at least.Hahaha. I thought I was the only one, so I was keeping it to myself.
federerdomination
Semi-Pro
wth
...If he was better than Fed was at ANY age, then why doesn't he have a single men's GS. If he is better than Federer is/ever was, why isn't he in the top 5 on the ATP tour???
jamauss
Hall of Fame
I think quite possibly the most stunning stat displayed here is Agassi getting a "1" for personality. :shock:Yes, and there have been many discussions and studies on that, if you do a search. But basically the conclusion was that he does not look like a tennis player and is not good for tennis because of his image, cosmetics, purse, gamesmanship, etc. And also there were broader studies, and many tables illustrating, and actually this is one from that link I quoted earlier (which is why I am not sure how many slams):
seffina
G.O.A.T.
He meant he's a better speaker of Bulgarian than Federer and always has been. He also has an edge in rhythmic gymnastics.
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Vermillion
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edberg deserves at least a 3 in looks, that hair is stunning
oranges
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LurkingGod
Rookie
Sorry, Edberg getting a 2 for sportsmanship takes the cake
No..
I find it even more shoking that Pat Rafter got 2 in look while Guga got 4 and Hewitt got 3. You should leave it to women to judge the men 'look'...:shock:
oranges
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Well, at least none of them officially has the best-looker title. They named the fair play award after a guy who got barely a passing mark for sportsmanship, LOL.
Pwned
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No one is going to take you seriously when you post like a mentally challenged 8 year old.
Ludas
New User
In the article posted as the first reply on page 1 it says Peter Lundgren is a "swiss". Why the hell is it so hard to see the difference between Sweden (swedish) and Switzerland (swiss)? Peter Lundgren is swedish.
It reminds me of a funny story when me and some friends were travelling in the U.S. and wanted to exchange swedish money to american $ and the idiot in the bank thought it was swiss money and gave us 6 times as much $ back as we should have gotten. Haha that's what you get when you're ignorant
It reminds me of a funny story when me and some friends were travelling in the U.S. and wanted to exchange swedish money to american $ and the idiot in the bank thought it was swiss money and gave us 6 times as much $ back as we should have gotten. Haha that's what you get when you're ignorant
alonsin
Rookie
I really don't know why people feel like if they were attacked personally when somebody says something bad about a player
Anyway, SoBad I really like your posts, this boards really need humor and different approaches.
I've heard Dimitrov is very talented, but I haven't seen him play so I cannot comment. But I don't think his coach saying that he's more talented than Federer helps keeping him grounded.
Anyway, SoBad I really like your posts, this boards really need humor and different approaches.
I've heard Dimitrov is very talented, but I haven't seen him play so I cannot comment. But I don't think his coach saying that he's more talented than Federer helps keeping him grounded.
Leublu tennis
Legend
Thats funny.
Leublu tennis
Legend
Americans receive their secondary education in American schools which teach nothing about the affairs of the rest of the world. I know; I'm an American.It reminds me of a funny story when me and some friends were travelling in the U.S. and wanted to exchange swedish money to american $ and the idiot in the bank thought it was swiss money and gave us 6 times as much $ back as we should have gotten. Haha that's what you get when you're ignorant
Ludas
New User
Yea I realized this when a guy asked me if I'm going back to Sweden by plane or bus... true story!
Also a cop asked my friend if he was from western or eastern Germany. This was 2001.
Gave us a good laugh tho
Hahaha. I thought I was the only one, so I was keeping it to myself.
There are actually millions of us ....LOL
In the article posted as the first reply on page 1 it says Peter Lundgren is a "swiss". Why the hell is it so hard to see the difference between Sweden (swedish) and Switzerland (swiss)? Peter Lundgren is swedish.
It reminds me of a funny story when me and some friends were travelling in the U.S. and wanted to exchange swedish money to american $ and the idiot in the bank thought it was swiss money and gave us 6 times as much $ back as we should have gotten. Haha that's what you get when you're ignorant
Good one.
dParis
Hall of Fame
Yes, and there have been many discussions and studies on that, if you do a search. But basically the conclusion was that he does not look like a tennis player and is not good for tennis because of his image, cosmetics, purse, gamesmanship, etc. And also there were broader studies, and many tables illustrating, and actually this is one from that link I quoted earlier (which is why I am not sure how many slams):
What in the world is that table? Don't you understand that when people discuss the GOAT they are talking about playing ability and professional success? Most of the criteria on the table you present is highly subjective. I'm not saying that it's not important or should be ignored. It's just that it doesn't relate to the discussion regarding the GOAT in its common context.
illkhiboy
Hall of Fame
I disagree with you. I think Sampras is a better looking guy than Kafelnikov.
SoBad
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SoBad
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Well you rightly point out that all those factors are important and cannot be ignored, which is precisely the reason why those factors are included in the table. It is a little bit more intellectually challenging than adding up slams, but it is a challenge each of us needs to be willing to overcome if we are to consider ourselves great tennis analysts. Because it is also about keeping an open mind and thinking out of the box.
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Yea I realized this when a guy asked me if I'm going back to Sweden by plane or bus... true story!
Also a cop asked my friend if he was from western or eastern Germany. This was 2001.
Gave us a good laugh tho
Yeah traveling to Sweden by bus from the US does not sound right. But I don't really see anything wrong with the Germany question. I mean, even though they have been united for a while, those are still two distinct parts of the country. From what I understand from history and economics, the post WWII borders weren't arbitrary, but rather followed a natural division between the part of the country more favourable in terms of geography and climate and therefore more prosperous, and the more challenging area in the East. Therefore, I don't think it was a ridiculous question necessarily.
SoBad
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Hey thanks for your nice comments. The thing about these forums is that they are full of loonies indoctrinated by the establishment funded with shady money from wilson nike and feds. That’s why they get out of wack when people call things their proper names.
I don’t think there is a problem with Lundgren telling Grisha the truth about his talent. I mean, it should not be up to the player’s coach to keep him grounded, but up to the opponents, if they can. I would like to see some slams from him starting this year!
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Hahaha. I thought I was the only one, so I was keeping it to myself.
Yes, very true. I know he said he is bored with the tour so he might retire from next year, I think there are some big IF's in the picture still. I feel like if he picks up a couple of slams mid-year, he could carry that momentum forward to defend the USopen, and then OZ should be a no-brainer, and I don't see him retiring after picking up a grand slam. Only time will tell, of course.
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, but most of the 18K probably goes back to Lundgren for bribing tournament director for the WC...
IvanAndreevich
Legend
Bleh, all he needed was his serve. Just didn't show up enough to get it done.
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Come on, he pushed the No. 1 player in the world all the way, what more can you ask at this stage. If he could just push over the edge and beat Nadal, he might as well take the calendar slam.
Mike Bulgakov
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In the article posted as the first reply on page 1 it says Peter Lundgren is a "swiss". Why the hell is it so hard to see the difference between Sweden (swedish) and Switzerland (swiss)? Peter Lundgren is swedish.
It reminds me of a funny story when me and some friends were travelling in the U.S. and wanted to exchange swedish money to american $ and the idiot in the bank thought it was swiss money and gave us 6 times as much $ back as we should have gotten. Haha that's what you get when you're ignorant
I met an Australian guy in Copenhagen who thought he was in the Netherlands. He had taken an overnight train from Amsterdam and kept talking about all the hot "Dutch girls" walking by on Strøget. I had to explain to him that he was now in an entirely different country, and the women walking by are Danish, not Dutch. His response was, "Isn't Denmark a part of Holland, though?"
IvanAndreevich
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Ludas
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Ok let me explain this. I have lived in Germany for 10 years so I see how you could think what you are saying makes sense but it doesn't for germans. Germany nowadays is divided into 16 "Bundesländer" of whom 5 used to belong to eastern germany, sort of like states in the U.S. but not quite as sovereign. The parts that used to belong to eastern Germany are non more different from the western parts nowadays and there is definitely no noticable difference in climate. To say that former eastern and western Germany still are two distinct parts of Germany is not true, there are is a much bigger difference between the state Bayern and the rest of Germany for example. German people are very offended by that kind of ignorance about their country because the reunification is the single most important event in german history since the WWII and is a symbol for peace not only in Germany but also Europe and the world.
That the western part was more prosperous is rather because the eastern part ended up belonging to the communists after WWII when germany was divided and not because of already existing economic or geographic differences.
Underhand
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LOL you didn't understand anything from history. East Germany's borders followed the areas occupied by the Red Army.
SoBad
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Yup рулез totally... Is my avvy too depressing... oh whatever..
Oh OK, I don't think he's gonna win the grand slam, but I expect that from Dimitrov now that he is fully endorsed... Btw I don't have anything against fed, I don't know how he came up in this thread, must have been because of the Lundgren connection...
SoBad
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Yeah that's what Ludas just said, except he was nice about it and provided some support to his argument.
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
OK thanks for your comment. I don’t have as much German experience as you do obviously, and it certainly was not my intention to offend German people in any way.
I am surprised that you say there is hadly any differences in terms of economy and standard of living between what used to be East and West, because there are numerous publications stating the contrary. I am familiar obviously with the popular theory that the reason why the Eastern part remains at a disadvantage because of its history under socialist rule, but there are scholars suggesting that there are indeed objective climatic and geological differences between the regions that account for the differential regardless of the political history. Without going into the detail of those arguments, would you agree that France is has an advantage over Poland in that regard? It may seem less obvious, but in fact the two (former) parts of Germany neighbouring those two countries are in the same respective positions relative to each other.
SoBad
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Dimitrov in Marseille!
This just in from our crew in Ometepe, Queyras and the islands. Dimitrov has agreed to play in Marseille next week and will be facing a local favourite Gilles Simon who is top 10 and owns fed. This should be huge after pushing Nadal all the way in Holland. We are all very excited.
This just in from our crew in Ometepe, Queyras and the islands. Dimitrov has agreed to play in Marseille next week and will be facing a local favourite Gilles Simon who is top 10 and owns fed. This should be huge after pushing Nadal all the way in Holland. We are all very excited.
Ludas
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Since the reunification Germany alone(!) was burdened with the job of rebuilding the former eastern german parts since these were in a much worse condition than the rest of Germany thanks to the communists. Many ppl think it was unfair that Germany didn't get any financial support from cold-war allies in managing this task since it's not their fault that the eastern part of Germany was so far behind in basically every aspect (except maybe sports). It took a long time and a lot of money to equal the differences which is by many seen as one of the main reasons for Germany's financial crisis about 10 years ago. However today in terms of education, former eastern Germany has actually caught up and even passed the more conservative western german states. In terms of standard of living I can't say anything from my own experience since I've only been to Berlin once or twice the last 10 years and can't speak for the rest of the eastern states but from what I've heard there have been remarkable improvements there aswell.
About the climatic and geological differences there really aren't any worth speaking of, north and south differ a lot more than east and west in Germany, and tbh it's not that big of a country.
Also I don't really believe the climate or geology has a lot to do with the financial differences of Poland and France, personally I believe it's more because of historic events. However that doesn't mean I don't think France is a much more beautiful country than Poland, sry polish ppl but it really is
Leublu tennis
Legend
You mean you actually know where Gorki Park is? My, my. I'm impressed.
Leublu tennis
Legend
Thanks, Ludas. I know a little bit about Germany and even lived there for a while as a child. Your comments are right on.
SoBad
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SoBad
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Ludas obviously knows what he is talking about, but I am not sure he is being completely objective. I am not replying to his latest post immediately, because I need to give it some thought (or find where I read what I read). But the thing is, he admits that he prefers France over Poland, but would not admit that objective geoclimatic factors play a determining role.
