I have to admit I've never heard of this kid until the week, but he was nails for USC all week and he crushed Buchanan in the team finals today, what do you guys know about him ?
Why so many Nguyens!?!?!?!??!??
Why so many Nguyens!?!?!?!??!??
I've noticed that too lol
yeah it is^^^ is it pronounce weun
It is usually pronounced WIN but I laugh when someone at a tournament desk will call the name out for matches as NUGEN or GEAN:-?
It's actually pronounced Ngwien with an upward inflection.
WIN is for pronouncing Huynh.
but I was close
Indeed you were.
By the way, does anyone know how tall this Dan Nguyen is? I searched for him on youtube and saw some clips. I'm just curious as to how tall he is.
i think his win was more about styles then anything , i think he's one of those guys who will just because he will have Bucan's no.,
but he is very fast
Yes, he did. According to Tennisrecruiting.net he was a 5 star, but not a blue chip recruit who was ranked about 20th nationally.
Well he also beat Mueller from Stanford, and was about to beat Reyes Varela from Texas...
Of course, that means he finished his senior year in blue chip territory (top 25), but the last update to the star rankings is on about October 1. Still, he was not very high in that blue chip territory. Not at the elite level of someone like Chase Buchanan, who was #1 a year later, yet Nguyen beat him.
i think his win was more about styles then anything , i think he's one of those guys who will just because he will have Bucan's no.,
but he is very fast
That's why tennisrecruiting.net is not the end all. They don't even adjust for age so it's flawed. Dan is solid, quick as a bunny and only 5'7"-8"
Actually, it means you need to know how to use the site.
Maybe everyone raving about Daniel Nguyen based on a single match against Chase Buchanan should examine a wider base of results for him. He was not in the top 6 for USC for a good bit of the year. Jason McNaughton went into a little bit of a slump at #6, so Daniel got in. Earlier in the year he mostly did not play except when someone was hurt, as when Robert Farah was hurt for a while and everyone moved up.
How did Daniel Nguyen do against Lee Singer of Virginia? Singer was only #7 and made the lineup when injuries and slump affected Steven Rooda.
One match against Buchanan and everyone goes nuts. Obviously, Buchanan did not play well recently for OSU.
Actually, it means you need to know how to use the site.
Dude, I know how to use the site. It's still flawed because it doesn't adjust for age. If you are 18 and beat 14 year old blue chips playing up, you will be handsomely rewarded. Which should not be the case. If you are a 14 year old blue chip and lose to 3-4 star 18s, it will hurt your ranking.
That's just not true... I am sure someone with more time can explain this, but a win over a blue chip who is fourteen is not necessarily better for your ranking than a 4 star who is 18. They use head to head rankings between classes as well, so your rewarded based on how good your opponent is, not by their age.
If you are 18 and beat 14 year old blue chips playing up, you will be handsomely rewarded. Which should not be the case. If you are a 14 year old blue chip and lose to 3-4 star 18s, it will hurt your ranking.
Beating a 14-year-old Blue Chip does not necessarily earn the same amount of credit as beating an 18-year-old Blue Chip - our system will rank both of those players and award credit accordingly.
Dallas - question: "not necessarily" but that can happen, right? If a 50th ranked 18 year old beats a #1 ranked 14 year old will this match earn more points than beating a 25th ranked blue chip 18 year old? Your system makes no adjustment for age year, does it?
Our system has relative rankings for both the #1 14-year-old and the #25 18-year-old. Usually, the #25 18-year-old will have a higher rank value, and so beating the 18-year-old will earn more credit.
While our system "does not take age into account", that doesn't mean that we treat, say, all Blue Chips the same. We lump ALL the kids in one big group and rank them, independent of age. The 18-year-olds tend to be better than the 17-year-olds, who tend to be better than the 16-year-olds, and so on...
Makes sense?
Makes sense to me. Seems easy enough to publish the full, unfiltered single ranking list on your site somewhere? You probably don't need to make it prominent or easy to find, but for those willing to dig a little deeper, it'd be interesting stuff.
btw, I'm a happy, paying user of your site so far. Your willingness to answer questions on this board makes it even better.
the full ranking list is pretty close to the one found on tennisinformation.com
I don't see a mingled list there. They have a Boys' 18 list, a Boys' 16 list, etc.
Kind of scary how deep college tennis is that this dude is playing 6 singles.advanced to the quarterfinals of the juniors tournament of the 2008 U.S. Open in New York ... crowned the 2008 Easter Bowl Champion in Palm Desert, Calif. ... early in his junior career, became the youngest winner ever at the Vero Beach Futures Event when he won at the age of 16 ... competing in the Les Petit – the premier world championship for competitors 14 and under – won the coveted title at 13 years old
You are wrong. You contradicted yourself in the last sentence, "not by age," it's head to head based on stars without regard to age.
Seems easy enough to publish the full, unfiltered single ranking list on your site somewhere? You probably don't need to make it prominent or easy to find, but for those willing to dig a little deeper, it'd be interesting stuff.
Based on the full list (purely based on head2head, and no age filter), you should be able to calculate on a weekly basis what the "prediction accuracy" is based on your list? Filter out the statistical outliers (people that's played N or less matches in the last 6 months, etc)...it feels like your list should give pretty accurate predication?
You can then publish like TennisRecruting net's Easter Bowl picks, or Orange Bowl picks...
I saw a kid named Denis Nguyen play in Arcadia last year, and he tore apart his open opponent with ease. Probably the best non-pro player I've seen in person.
where in arcadia, the santa anita courts??
Yeah, Rusty Miller courts near the golf course.