Uncle Toni: Nadal in Wimbledon in doubt

icedevil0289

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Got this from mtf: Someone there translated parts of it

Source: http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Nadal/aguanta/dolor/elpepudep/20090606elpepidep_7/Tes

Some extracts. Uncle Toni: "Let's see if we make it to Wimbledon. It's not clear. But even if he has to go with a shock treatment, if he's reasonably well, he'll go. Right now, however, we can't tell".

The article goes on saying he has been having pain in his knee, the problem wasn't deemed to be serious, only a matter of pain, but it's been getting worse and worse. In the end he didn't bend his knees like he usually does and that was affecting his shots. In the third set against Soderling he said to his camp "It hurts. I can't...", but they decided not to comment on it afterwards because "you have to be a good loser".


I hope that's not the case. Poor rafa::(:(
 
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dh003i

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Although not surprising given the way the guy plays, it is really too bad. Hopefully, it can be taken care of and will be better by Wimbledon.

But the ultimate solution is to play less events, especially during the HC season, but even during the clay season.

Unless he changes his playing style, he may also need to focus on the slams.
 
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rommil

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Well this has been touted for sometime now. Nadal's optimal level of play would be hard for anybody to maintain. I have always thought too that Rafa's thick and muscular build up makes him susceptible to injuries and his over zealous demeanor will catch up to him. It takes a lot of energy to sustain that. I think the Nadal camp has also been a bit greedy with their scheduling. Oh well, hope he comes back healthy.
 
checkmilu

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Nadal needs more rest, should never risk his long term career with small tours, just the slams and may be a pre-slam tour to warm up. It's bad for the sport without Nadal
 
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dh003i

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rommil said:
Well this has been touted for sometime now. Nadal's optimal level of play would be hard for anybody to maintain. I have always thought too that Rafa's thick and muscular build up makes him susceptible to injuries and his over zealous demeanor will catch up to him. It takes a lot of energy to sustain that. I think the Nadal camp has also been a bit greedy with their scheduling. Oh well, hope he comes back healthy.
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I don't know much about Nadal's team, is it just mainly Uncle Toni? I mean, I hate to criticize the guy, since he devotes his life to Rafa. But I think Rafa probably needs some kind of professional trainer who can provide input on what is too much schedule.
 
DarthFed

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Things are this bad?

He looked invincible after the AO....just goes to show....we must take every match one at a time..

But this explains the errant FH at times...the horrible serves as of late (he hit a serve against Djoker...that didn't even get dumped into the net...it landed a few feet in front of the net_

There were people who were saying Nadal wasn't as good as last year despite the results..he'll have to cut down on the schedule
 
icedevil0289

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dh003i said:
I don't know much about Nadal's team, is it just mainly Uncle Toni? I mean, I hate to criticize the guy, since he devotes his life to Rafa. But I think Rafa probably needs some kind of professional trainer who can provide input on what is too much schedule.
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I'm not trying to say uncle toni is lying, but he has had a history of perhaps exaggerating rafa's injuries and what not. I remember the "career threatening injury" thing that happened. I hope this is the case this time and we'll see rafa playing at wimbledon.
 
supermario343

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Being a Federer fan, I do feel bad for Nadal getting these kinds of injuries. Its going to attract less people to the sport if hes not there too :(. We all love seeing the great rivalries and I dont want it to stop...get better Rafa!
 
icedevil0289

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supermario343 said:
Being a Federer fan, I do feel bad for Nadal getting these kinds of injuries. Its going to attract less people to the sport if hes not there too :(. We all love seeing the great rivalries and I dont want it to stop...get better Rafa!
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yeah and I heard that ancic will not be playing at wimbly either, which, as a ancic fan, made me very sad.

Rafa...work on your schedule please.
 
FlamEnemY

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Although I dislike his game, I hope he is ok. It will be a shame if he misses Wimbledon. Hopefully this will encourage him to tweak his game so he doesn't end up with 80-year old's knees.
 
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dh003i said:
I don't know much about Nadal's team, is it just mainly Uncle Toni? I mean, I hate to criticize the guy, since he devotes his life to Rafa. But I think Rafa probably needs some kind of professional trainer who can provide input on what is too much schedule.
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Well Nadal camp I meant him and Uncle Toni. I don't know either if there are more people in there but I mean if Rafa feels like he is playing too much I trust that he would let that know to his uncle.
 
DarthFed

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but this early?

Then again..Nadal didn't become good last year...he's been a force since he was 18..so his career is much longer than it feels..

But i think he'll be okay..unfortunately i don't think skipping queens would help him too much
 
P_Agony

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I hope he recovers quickliy and feels alright by Wimbeldon. Poor guy, it must really suck that you can't play important tournys because of injuries. :-(
 
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Its sad he was so determined for being number 1 and focusing on staying there that he has played so much tennis the past 5 years. Not only that his body was still developing as he was not 23 or 24 he was 18 at points I hope this isn't a sign of an end for Rafa it would be sad.
 
icedevil0289

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DarthFed said:
but this early?

Then again..Nadal didn't become good last year...he's been a force since he was 18..so his career is much longer than it feels..

But i think he'll be okay..unfortunately i don't think skipping queens would help him too much
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I do. If he wants to be ready for wimbledon, he needs to rest and that would mean skipping queens.
 
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Seany

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I'm sorry to say it, but this is why he wont get close to federer in terms of number of grand slams.
 
R.Federer

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i think he will play wimbleodn even if hes struggling hes a fighter and its the biggest tournament of the year i cant see him misisng it.

but i hope it comes bk healthier,one things for sure is that his longevitiy in the game wont be more than 4 or 5 years imo
 
mandy01

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Feel sorry for him,certainly,but I doubt he'll miss Wimbledon.Nevertheless,here's wishing him a speedy recovery.
 
WhiskeyEE

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he plays so many tournaments with that style of play. I get bad knees if I do too much cardio (I'm a muscular guy. To the guy who said that rafa is musclar; he's not, he's skinny like all the other ATP players).

Seriously I thought that Rafa would start having serious injury problems a lot earlier than this. I guess he did have to skip masters cup. I don't see Rafa staying as an elite player for more than 2 more years.
 
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oh Rafa. :(

Get well soon champ, tennis needs champions like you to keep challenging Federer and let this rivalry continue. :)

I think he needs to think about his scheduling and stop playing worthless events like Barcelona and Rotterdam. He should learn these qualities from Federer because lets face it, its the big titles that he needs to concentrate now on and if you're not fit enough for them, then there is something seriously wrong.
 
Staiger

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He will be at Wimbledon , trust me ! this is Rafa we are talking about , one of the most competitive individual on the planet.
 
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Fedexeon

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Should be okay i guess? Monfils was having so much trouble wif his knees as well before Roland Garros but he got into the quarterfinals... Unless its a really terrible injury, i don't see Nadal giving up in defending his beloved Wimbledon title.
 
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rommil

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Then again this could be Uncle Toni's way of taking attention from what he said about the French crowd lol.
 
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C'mon Rafa, heal yourself up. Tennis without you takes some spice out of it.
 
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Yes, I think he'll be there at Wimbledon, unless it is absolutely serious.

If Nadal doesn't show up at Wimbledon, then Murray can win his first slam without much trouble.
 
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Fed is winning the RG title tommorow and therefore I think he wont be that motivated at Wimbledon this year.
 
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Spider said:
Yes, I think he'll be there at Wimbledon, unless it is absolutely serious.

If Nadal doesn't show up at Wimbledon, then Murray can win his first slam without much trouble.
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There's this fellow that won it 5 times and came painfully close to winning it last year..hold the open era record of 65 straight grass court wins..made the final without dropping a set..i forget his name...Rob..Robert..oh yea its Roger right? you may know him but he's been under the rader for the last 5 or so years
 
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DarthFed said:
There's this fellow that won it 5 times and came painfully close to winning it last year..hold the open era record of 65 straight grass court wins..made the final without dropping a set..i forget his name...Rob..Robert..oh yea its Roger right? you may know him but he's been under the rader for the last 5 or so years
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I don't understand and my prediction stands ;)
 
icedevil0289

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Spider said:
Fed is winning the RG title tommorow and therefore I think he wont be that motivated at Wimbledon this year.
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It's wimbledon. Of course roger will be motivated. He was devastated after last years final and I'm sure he will be even more motivated this year to try and get it back.
 
Cesc Fabregas

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Nadal is going to make a WWE style return at Wimbledon during a Federer match hes going to run on to court and hit Fed with a steal chair. :)
 
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DarthFed said:
So you think that *SHOULD HE WIN* tomorrow, that he'll be okay with 14 and not even try for 15?

His lions heart says other wise
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Interesting question. And these are my thoughts on this. Fed has been working on winning the RG title for a long time now and lost each time to Nadal. So near and yet so far. I am sure each of these defeats motivate him to play Halle the very next week and and also be extremely motivated to win Wimbledon.

However, this year could be different. I think it would be better if I post this tommorow (after Fed wins it), because what Federer is about to do tommorow is something larger than anything he has achieved so far (and considering all that he has managed to achieve, that speaks a lot). This may not motivate him to play Halle and therefore he could enter Wimbedon without any matches on Grass.
 
DarthFed

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Spider said:
Interesting question. And these are my thoughts on this. Fed has been working on winning the RG title for a long time now and lost each time to Nadal. So near and yet so far. I am sure each of these defeats motivate him to play Halle the very next week and and also be extremely motivated to win Wimbledon.

However, this year could be different. I think it would be better if I post this tommorow (after Fed wins it), because what Federer is about to do tommorow is something larger than anything he has achieved so far (and considering all that he has managed to achieve, that speaks a lot). This may not motivate him to play Halle and therefore he could enter Wimbedon without any matches on Grass.
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or it could be the opposite..and become the rise of another Federa

SHOULD HE WIN...i think his confidence would increase exponentially...Federer playing with nothing to lose would be dangerous...like he was back in 01' when he took out Sampras
 
ElSuegro

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NBC just announced that Rafa has withdrawn from Queens, and Wimbledon is up in the air due to his knee injury. This could be Federer's chance to take #14 and #15.
 
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Dan007 said:
He should learn how to adjust his schedule from Fed
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Or have Fed do his schedule. I could see it now.

Roger "Ok Rafa you are going to play from January to March, take a rest and then come back sometime in August for the hardcourt season".
 
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I wonder if it is time for Nadal to look at his game and has he gone as far as he can with uncle Toni?
 
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