I think, until recent times, most players used a one-handed backhand.
I think also that there are only a handful players who can be considered the GOAT.
Gonzalez, Borg, Laver, Federer, and maybe some players pre-Gonzalez. (I discount Sampras because I feel that his achievements don't stand up to comparison with Federer's)
I think, until recent times, most players used a one-handed backhand.
I think also that there are only a handful players who can be considered the GOAT.
Gonzalez, Borg, Laver, Federer, and maybe some players pre-Gonzalez. (I discount Sampras because I feel that his achievements don't stand up to comparison with Federer's)
Nah....Agassi got his ass whipped every time he played the one-handed Sampras at Wimbledon and at the US Open, and that was a lot of times.i think agassi is not THE goat, but he is on that level, since he won all 4 slams and if he would have trained and have been more dedicated earlier in his career instead of the "image is everything" fad, he would have won more slams. he has a great two handed backhand...what do people think about agassi?
No player with a two-hander ever looked effortless or lyrical.
i think agassi is not THE goat, but he is on that level, since he won all 4 slams and if he would have trained and have been more dedicated earlier in his career instead of the "image is everything" fad, he would have won more slams. ...quote]
Same here, man. If I had trained harder and been more dedicated to my tennis, I would have qualied for Slams. Then who knows how many Slams I would have won!?
Please.
[okay, sarcasm off]
I think Agassi was both hampered and helped by his wayward tendencies.
Agassi and Nadal, greatest GOATS ever, and two handed backhands.
But none of them are even in the discussion when it comes to the GOAT.Borg, Wilander, Agassi, Connors, Nadal, Courier. All dominated at one point or another.
But none of them are even in the discussion when it comes to the GOAT.
Federer, Sampras, Laver, and (Pancho) Gonzales are in that discussion.
LOL! Love TW - Greatest Goats ever?????
"Tonight I'm gonna rock you tonight"
Call me old school, but two handed backhands are FUGLY-- period. Nothing as graceful, pretty and versatile as a one handed slice or topspin backhand.
My friend who also loves the one-hander used to say that only women should be hitting a two-handed backhand (or any shot for that matter). By that I think he meant that ideally, guys should be strong enough to effectively swing the racket using only one arm. To each his own I guess.Call me old school, but two handed backhands are FUGLY-- period. Nothing as graceful, pretty and versatile as a one handed slice or topspin backhand.
Players who start as little kids can be forgiven, I suppose, but didn't Pete switch from 2H to 1HBH after Pete Fisher convinced him to make the change?
I heard an Australian say he was taught (in the 1960s) that the two-handed backhand was only fit for girls -- weak girls at that. But the idea that most men are strong enough to use one hand is true only if you consider an underspin-only backhand to be adequate. Looking at old films I see that the vast majority of even the very top players in the years prior to 1970 hit underspin-only on the backhand. Bill Tilden was #2 in the world before he learned to drive his backhand. Don Budge was considered a phenomenon because he hit most backhands flat. Tony Traber in the mid-1950s was said to be the first player (in history!) to hit a predominately topspin backhand. Rod Laver was famous for his topspin backhand, but videos show that he used it only for passing shots. In his autobiography Laver said that he started working on it at age 11, and finally learned to control it during his last years as an amateur. (He couldn't control his topspin backhand until he was already playing and winning Grand Slam events!!!)My friend who also loves the one-hander used to say that only women should be hitting a two-handed backhand (or any shot for that matter). By that I think he meant that ideally, guys should be strong enough to effectively swing the racket using only one arm. To each his own I guess.
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I think exceptionally gifted/truly genius level players are more likely to develop long-term games (required for sustained dominance) using the one-hander. ...
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The one handed backhand is more versatile than a two hander.
I always thought the same thing also.
The one-hander is more difficult to master than the two-hander. Which is why it's no surprise that exceptionally gifted players (GOAT level) do take time to develop it as a component of their game.
The result? When they do mature, the shot becomes an integral part of their game (Pete's one-hander served his S&V game well). It also becomes an indication of virtuosity (Fed's one-hander manifests the ease, grace and smoothness of his play. Same for Laver). No player with a two-hander ever looked effortless or lyrical.
It's a indicator of genius.
uhh.....Rios, Zvereva,...anybody?
There's lots of room for debate. But I was taught that a 2 handed backhand was a sign of weakness. I guess that doesn't apply to today's game. But I learned how to exploit players with 2 handed backhands slicing low and short to a 2 hander as well as pulling them out wide where they have less reach.
I am mortified every time that I hear Martina say that she thinks she should've played two hands and then developed the one handed slice like Wilander did. I know why she says that. But if anything, Wilander should want to be more like Martina, and not the other way around.
I do not believe that Martina could've been as great as she was as a 2 handed player. For one thing, she had no business being on the baseline anyway. Though she tried mightily at the 1986 French Open, she did not win a single grand slam title from the back of the court.
But what do I know? I don't have 9 Wimby titles.
Did Pancho Segura have a two-handed backhand, in addition to this two-handed forehand?
There's lots of room for debate. But I was taught that a 2 handed backhand was a sign of weakness. I guess that doesn't apply to today's game. But I learned how to exploit players with 2 handed backhands slicing low and short to a 2 hander as well as pulling them out wide where they have less reach.
I am mortified every time that I hear Martina say that she thinks she should've played two hands and then developed the one handed slice like Wilander did. I know why she says that. But if anything, Wilander should want to be more like Martina, and not the other way around.
I do not believe that Martina could've been as great as she was as a 2 handed player. For one thing, she had no business being on the baseline anyway. Though she tried mightily at the 1986 French Open, she did not win a single grand slam title from the back of the court.
But what do I know? I don't have 9 Wimby titles.
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Well, Wilander became like Navratilova. ....
No. Borg never won the US Open nor the Australian Open.Borg not in the discussion?
No. Borg never won the US Open nor the Australian Open.