Simon Reed Strikes Back: "Murray the best in the world"

Sartorius

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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/tennis/simon-reed/article/443/

It was great to see Andy Murray make a winning comeback in Valencia and I still believe he is the best tennis player in the world, that's not to say he's going to win a Grand Slam.

To come back in Valencia and win after all that time out is amazing, but until he wins a Grand Slam you have to regard him as being on a lesser level than the likes of Federer and Nadal.

I don't think Federer is the player he was, Nadal is not the player he was. Djokovic seems to be coming back and there are others coming up, Cilic is one, but I think they are all pretty level and you can't pick a number one.

But if you press me to pick a number one, you look at who has been the most consistent outside of slams and it is Andy Murray.

He has won six times now, but for us to truly believe he needs to win a Slam; I am sure that will come.

Heading to London fresh will help him and it will help him next year for the Australian Open.

Right now if you ask me who is going to win in London I would have to say Murray. He is the favourite for me.

Federer is not playing well, for Djokovic to beat him in Basel is a great result for Djokovic and Nadal is not quite there either after all his problems.

I see Andy Murray as the favourite to win in London, but not in Australia. He has to prove he can win a Grand Slam first.

London will be a great occasion and Murray will go there being lightly raced and then on to Australia. Australia is his ideal surface and it is a great chance for him - but as I say, he needs to prove he can do it on the big occasion.

At least he's showing some consistency.
 

Feña14

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Someone from the uk praising murray? Wow, never seen that before

That's quite lazy.

Have you seen Simon Reed's articles? They are usually always wrong, he's written ones practically claiming Verdasco is set to be the GOAT, is that no surprise either as he had a bit of paella a few years back? :rolleyes:
 
So Murray is the best player in the World yet he is not sure if he is even going to win a single slam?! That is incredibly poorly thought out and stupid sounding, even for his own low standards.
 

dropshot winner

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Murray could be #1 and the winner of 2 slams in 2010, he's way better than most shortsighted tennis fans give him credit at the moment, but Reed's just something else.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for his "Murray is the real #1"-article.
 

aphex

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That's quite lazy.

Have you seen Simon Reed's articles? They are usually always wrong, he's written ones practically claiming Verdasco is set to be the GOAT, is that no surprise either as he had a bit of paella a few years back? :rolleyes:

in fact he's been saying murray is "the true no.1" for about a year.

and then he gets buttsexed.

keep up the good work simon. everyone outside the uk hates murray.

thanks for the jinx.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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LOL. Reed is a complete clown. I can't believe he's still in a job!
Is he British? It sounds as if he is.
With all due respect (i love England) this is sooo typical British tabloids/ journalism, its like when England wins 1-0 vs Egypt by scoring in the 89th minute and the tabloids has big fat headlines "We will win the World Cup" and stuff like that.
He doesnt give the Brits a fair wiew imo.
 

aphex

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Murray could be #1 and the winner of 2 slams in 2010, he's way better than most shortsighted tennis fans give him credit at the moment, but Reed's just something else.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for his "Murray is the real #1"-article.

i could be the winner of 54 slams in 2014. but nobody gives me enough credit...
crazy, i know...
 

aphex

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Is he British? It sounds as if he is.
With all due respect (i love England) this is sooo typical British tabloids/ journalism, its like when England wins 1-0 vs Egypt by scoring in the 89th minute and the tabloids has big fat headlines "We will win the World Cup" and stuff like that.
He doesnt give the Brits a fair wiew imo.

the sad thing is he's a pretty good commentator in live matches....
and he knows tennis...i think eurosport are paying him to write that garbage in order to create controversy...
 

dropshot winner

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i could be the winner of 54 slams in 2014. but nobody gives me enough credit...
crazy, i know...

No you couldn't.

Murray on the other hand will soon go from vastly underrated to vastly overhyped ("better than Federer and Nadal at their peak") when he starts the season by winning the AO.
 

aphex

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No you couldn't.

Murray on the other hand will soon go from vastly underrated to vastly overhyped ("better than Federer and Nadal at their peak") when he starts the season by winning the AO.

like in '09, right?...you are cluless-moppy murray will never win a slam.
 

Agassifan

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If some people claim that the guy with 6 slams is the true GOAT, then why not the guy with 0 slams to be the true No. 1
 

Augustus

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So Murray is the best player in the World yet he is not sure if he is even going to win a single slam?! That is incredibly poorly thought out and stupid sounding, even for his own low standards.

Second that. Reed's stupidity is reaching new heights. Murray didn't even play that well in Valencia...
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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the sad thing is he's a pretty good commentator in live matches....
and he knows tennis...i think eurosport are paying him to write that garbage in order to create controversy...
He is?
Ive never had the possibility to listen o him, where is he working? Eurosport?
Thats very possible although his reputation will be really damaged imo.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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No you couldn't.

Murray on the other hand will soon go from vastly underrated to vastly overhyped ("better than Federer and Nadal at their peak") when he starts the season by winning the AO.
Do you really believe in this? Or just trying to start a controversy? :)
 

dropshot winner

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like in '09, right?...you are cluless-moppy murray will never win a slam.

I NEVER hyped Murray or predicted him to win a slam this year, but I'm not blind when it comes to his talent and potential. He did underachieve big time this year in the slams, he'll do better next year.

I fear that the Murray-****s will be a pain in the ass when my prediction comes true.
 

Ripper014

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I will accept Murray as number 1 in the world when the rankings say he is... until then, I believe he is number 3... and number 1 and 2 have been around awhile.

Oops... make that number 4... seems Novak is ahead of him this week...
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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I don't know if he wins AO, Wimbledon or USO, but I'm pretty sure that he'll win one, maybe even two (if he starts by winning AO).
Imo, AO-forget about it, the heat there has proven too much for him as we have seen before.
FO-No comment
Wimby- Here is his biggest chance imo, even if he doesnt play good the crazy Brits will carry him.
USO- I dont think so, if he runs into a player on fire he has no answer (Cilic ? )
 

5th Element

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I think what he means is that Murray is the best player in the world for a day or two when everyone else is playing at 70% to protect themselves prior to the London finals :)

I think Murray will underachieve in London.
 

dropshot winner

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Imo, AO-forget about it, the heat there has proven too much for him as we have seen before.
FO-No comment
Wimby- Here is his biggest chance imo, even if he doesnt play good the crazy Brits will carry him.
USO- I dont think so, if he runs into a player on fire he has no answer (Cilic ? )

Murray had his breakthrough in 2008, that year at the AO he lost in the first round to Tsonga, this year he had a virus and lost a close match to Verdasco.
How do those two losses proof that he can't handle the heat?
His game is very well suited for the plexicushion surface.

At the US Open he showed more than a year ago that he can do very well on the surface. This year he was struggling big time with his wrist when he lost to Cilic.
He already beat Nadal in NY and Djokovic on the similiar courts of Cincinatti, and Federer will struggle more and more to bring his top level at the slams.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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Murray had his breakthrough in 2008, that year at the AO he lost in the first round to Tsonga, this year he had a virus and lost a close match to Verdasco.
How do those two losses proof that he can't handle the heat?
His game is very well suited for the plexicushion surface.

At the US Open he showed more than a year ago that he can do very well on the surface. This year he was struggling big time with his wrist when he lost to Cilic.
He already beat Nadal in NY, and beat Djokovic on the similiar courts of Cincinatti.
What happened in 2007 vs Nadal? He broke down due to the heat imo.
Well we can speculate until the end of time about this, the thing is he has got to bring it for 2 weeks ready to go 5 sets- can he do it? Imo, not in AO.
But hey! The speculating is fun, right?
 

dropshot winner

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What happened in 2007 vs Nadal? He broke down due to the heat imo.
Well we can speculate until the end of time about this, the thing is he has got to bring it for 2 weeks ready to go 5 sets- can he do it? Imo, not in AO.
But hey! The speculating is fun, right?

2007 isn't relevant, Murray's a different player now (phyiscally).

People try to read way to much in past perfomances at a certain slam, it often doesn't work with young players.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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2007 isn't relevant, Murray's a different player now (phyiscally).

People try to read way to much out of past perfomances at a certain slam, it often doesn't work with young players.
Yeah, i can agree with this.
Del Po came out of nowhere (in GS) and won the USO in his first final, Murray SHOULD be ready. IF he wins a GS it will be Wimby imo
 

Anaconda

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Why does he do it though? why does he say these stupid things? He's supposed to be knowledgable about the game. He's acting like a moron - maybe he is a moron but his superiors should stop him comming out with these statements which make him look the moron that he clearly is.
 
Yeah, i can agree with this.
Del Po came out of nowhere (in GS) and won the USO in his first final, Murray SHOULD be ready. IF he wins a GS it will be Wimby imo

When did Murray become a favorite for Wimbledon? When BBC said so?

He won Queens and reached Wimbledon SF beating the likes of Blake, Ferrero and Gulbis, and struggling with Wawrinka.

Federer and Nadal can beat him on grass even without their top form. Roddick too. And if Djokovic had the same draw as Murray, he would have had the same results (W in Queens, SF in Wimbleodn).
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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When did Murray become a favorite for Wimbledon? When BBC said so?

He won Queens and reached Wimbledon SF beating the likes of Blake, Ferrero and Gulbis, and struggling with Wawrinka.

Federer and Nadal can beat him on grass even without their top form. Roddick too. And if Djokovic had the same draw as Murray, he would have had the same results (W in Queens, SF in Wimbleodn).

IF...IF...IF he wins a GS I THINK it will be Wimbledon.
I never said he is a favourite to win W, that imo is Federer for at least another 2 years.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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Nadal has already dominated on 3 different slam surfaces. He's reached the USO semis twice in a row. This year, he played with only 70% capacity due to an abdominal tear.

It's just a matter of time.
No, he has dominated on 1 surface.
And USO is by far the fastest, read, therefore he will never win it. His best chance was this or last year.
If you play- you are ready for war, if not- too bad.
Domination= Roger Federer- Hardcourt-Grass- You see?
 
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dropshot winner

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Nadal has already dominated on 3 different slam surfaces. He's reached the USO semis twice in a row. This year, he played with only 70% capacity due to an abdominal tear.

It's just a matter of time.

Nadal has never dominated on any surface except clay. He reached the AO final ONCE and got outplayed comprehensively both times he reached the USO semi.
 
IF...IF...IF he wins a GS I THINK it will be Wimbledon.
I never said he is a favourite to win W, that imo is Federer for at least another 2 years.

No, I wasn't criticizing your opinion, just expressing dismay that he was considered a favorite for Wimbledon.

I think he may have more chance at hardcourts. That's where he has had the most success in the past. But, when you look at it, he hasn't beaten anyone important in HC slam. Last year at USO, he took out young DelP in QF and Nadal in SF on Nadal's worst surface. I, for one, am not impressed.
 

SempreSami

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in fact he's been saying murray is "the true no.1" for about a year.

and then he gets buttsexed.

keep up the good work simon. everyone outside the uk hates murray.

thanks for the jinx.

Maybe in insignificant little Greece. :roll:
 

rocket

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No, he has dominated on 1 surface.
And USO is by far the fastest, read, therefore he will never win it. His best chance was this or last year.
If you play- you are ready for war, if not- too bad.
Domination= Roger Federer- Hardcourt-Grass- You see?

FO '09 - Nadal: defending champ.
Wimby '09 - Nadal: defending champ.
AO '10 - Nadal: defending champ.

Fed has a slight edge over Nadal at the USO should they ever meet, but that's about it.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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FO '09 - Nadal: defending champ.
Wimby '09 - Nadal: defending champ.
AO '10 - Nadal: defending champ.

Fed has a slight edge over Nadal at the USO should they ever meet, but that's about it.
Ok, im not gonna argue with this, you are a troll.
 

P_Agony

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Well, IMO Reed's opinion isn't entirely wrong. Sure, Murray, results wise, is far from being the best in the world. However, Murray IS the most consistent player outside the slams, and when he wins a slam (it's just a matter of time) he will have the potential to become #1.

What seems most odd to me is the fact Reed completley ignored Del Potro in his comments (unless this is a very old article that's been written way before DP won his slam) The guy is the latest grand slam winner, has beaten Nadal and Fed back to back for the trophy.
 
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