Head Code names

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
I see all the code names when people reference Head racquets all the time, like TKG, TK, 237, 238, 57, etc etc, but never know which frames they exactly are. Can someone please decode them? Thanks.
 

meowmix

Hall of Fame
There's a list of code names somewhere, somebody will probably find it.

Basically, these are all prostock frames, meaning frames specially designed for special people (like pros, sponsored colleged players, etc). Some of us mere mortals can get our hands on these frames on occassion.
 

ryushen21

Legend
I've been wondering about this one too. Even though I just switched to the Prince Rebel, I am curious as to what code is for Djokovic's racquet as I would like to obtain one.
 

dlesser13

Rookie
you won't be able to get your hands on a djoko racket most likely. it's a very mysterious racket/mold that most certainly isn't any form of a speed pro.
 

ryushen21

Legend
you won't be able to get your hands on a djoko racket most likely. it's a very mysterious racket/mold that most certainly isn't any form of a speed pro.

I know it's a slim chance and I would probably have to pay through the teeth to get one but I would still like to. The specs are just too good.
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Thanks. This sure helps! :)
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Well, no more controversy I would say :)

Great post, thanks!

Bob
 

ryushen21

Legend
As I just read in another posters thread, the TGK262.1 is still a 16x19. So is there a TGK262.x that is a softer, 18x20?
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
As I just read in another posters thread, the TGK262.1 is still a 16x19. So is there a TGK262.x that is a softer, 18x20?

Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't aware of that. I know for a fact that the MG TGK's were that way for the string patterns, and I just assumed the Speed Pros would be the same. I'm good friends with a Head rep who's pretty high up on the food chain, so I'll give him a call today.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

How stiff are .1's in comparison to the .2 and .3?
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
How stiff are .1's in comparison to the .2 and .3?

Good question. It totally depends on the mold. The 238.1 and .2 are very similar in terms of stiffness, whereas the 237.1 is supposed to be considerably stiffer than the .2, which is in turn considerably stiffer than the .3.
 

PED

Legend
I believe 18 vs 20 (mm) but I'll double check.

Thanks for the quick response. Just curious but have you ever with with any of the TGK 231 Radical Pro stock versions? Just wondering how they hit compared to retail. I believe that's what Chardy and Cilic use.
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the quick response. Just curious but have you ever with with any of the TGK 231 Radical Pro stock versions? Just wondering how they hit compared to retail. I believe that's what Chardy and Cilic use.

I've hit with the TGK231.2 and .3, and they are both amazingly solid. They are both a bit stiffer, and obviously have a more open string pattern than the retail version. They also seemed to have a significantly higher flexpoint in the hoop than the retail version, which took a little while to get used to. The .1's are exceptionally rare, and very few tour players use them. I believe Chardy uses the .2 and Cilic the .3. There was a .2 on the 'Bay the other week, auction #300369832502.
 
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dParis

Hall of Fame
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.
Is there an initiation, or do you have to know a secret handshake, before you can start using a Head racquet?

Mastering Dungeons & Dragons was easier than this... :confused:
 

zspyderman

Rookie
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

Hey man, it must be the custom 57A since Murray's string pattern is 16x19
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
They do make the 16x19 mold. Murray could be using it. It's usually picked by players who come to HEAD from another brand.

You could be right, but a highly-esteemed poster on these boards, Ericsson, has one of Murray's racquets, and there is no code anywhere on the frame.
 
I think this is a pretty accurate list. During tests, the E def. felt stiffet then the A, and it is is much closer to the original Pro Tour. The only other thing I would like to add is that Murray plays with the PT57A. I see his racquets all the time at the stringer when picking up ours.

zspyderman, you are bang-on correct with your assessment of the E and you are also spot on correct that Murray uses a PT57A (with a 16x19 drill pattern).

RacquetCraft
 

PED

Legend
zspyderman, you are bang-on correct with your assessment of the E and you are also spot on correct that Murray uses a PT57A (with a 16x19 drill pattern).



RacquetCraft

He switched at the AO back in 2008 right to the 16 19, correct? What was he using under that old I Radical PJ-was it likely just an 18X20 PT57A?
 

zspyderman

Rookie
You could be right, but a highly-esteemed poster on these boards, Ericsson, has one of Murray's racquets, and there is no code anywhere on the frame.
These guys go through a ton of racquets. I see his racquets all the time. The one with no code could be an early version from the time they changed the paint job to Youtek, and they got his before the production started on the new design PTs.
 

Automatix

Legend
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600


A few questions...

According to this TGK231.2 would be a stiff Radical MP 16x19 however I found this code to describe a stiffer Radical MP but with a 18x20 stringpattern.

What I've gathered:
TGK231.1 - MG Radical MP 18x20
TGK231.2 - MG Radical MP 18x20 (stiffer ver.)
TGK231.3 - MG Radical MP 16x19
TGK237.1 - MG Prestige Mid
TGK237.2 - MG Prestige Mid 16x19
TGK238.1 - MG Prestige MP
TGK238.2 - MG Prestige Pro
TGK238.3 - Prestige Pro Room (Wawrinka)
PT10 - Prestige Classic 600
PT57A - Pro Tour 630 (RA 53-57)
PT57E - Pro Tour 630 (RA 58-62)
PT161 - Liquidmetal Instinct
PT167A - FXP Radical MP
TGK260.1 - YouTek Radical MP
TGK260.2 - YouTek Radical Pro 16x19
TGK262.1 - YouTek Speed Pro
TGK263.1 - YouTek Speed MP 16x19

Any input???
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
A few questions...

According to this TGK231.2 would be a stiff Radical MP 16x19 however I found this code to describe a stiffer Radical MP but with a 18x20 stringpattern.

What I've gathered:
TGK231.1 - MG Radical MP 18x20
TGK231.2 - MG Radical MP 18x20 (stiffer ver.)
TGK231.3 - MG Radical MP 16x19
TGK237.1 - MG Prestige Mid
TGK237.2 - MG Prestige Mid 16x19
TGK238.1 - MG Prestige MP
TGK238.2 - MG Prestige Pro
TGK238.3 - Prestige Pro Room (Wawrinka)
PT10 - Prestige Classic 600
PT57A - Pro Tour 630 (RA 53-57)
PT57E - Pro Tour 630 (RA 58-62)
PT161 - Liquidmetal Instinct
PT167A - FXP Radical MP
TGK260.1 - YouTek Radical MP
TGK260.2 - YouTek Radical Pro 16x19TGK262.1 - YouTek Speed Pro
TGK263.1 - YouTek Speed MP 16x19

Any input???


I was not aware of those.

And, it definitely looks like the 231.2 is 16x19, based on item number 300369832502 on the 'Bay.
 

downs_chris

Professional
anyone ever seen a microgel prestige pro that's ALL white on the inside of the throat -- no codes or writing / logos?
 

Fedace

Banned
Get Real,,, we are all being fooled by these codes by Head. Pros really do use what they advertise....lol
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
How did you come to that conclusion? Chardy uses TGK231.2 and his racquets are 18x20.

Jeremy_Chardy_2009_bmw_open.jpg

The TGK231.3 is 16x19.............

You're exactly right.

Automatix, I apologize, I miscounted the grommets.
 

zspyderman

Rookie
Yep, I have....

When HEAD changes the designs on their pro sticks, it's not a small production and it takes some effort. Some of the no-mark racquets are early versions they supply their top players with before the new paint jobs arrive for distribution for all the other pros. I don't think the codes have anything to do with the string pattern. It's more the material composit and length. Any one of those could be made into a 16x19 mold or the 18x20 mold. It really depends on what a particular player prefers.
You can clearly see that Chardy uses the 18x20. If you look at any of Murray's pics you will see the same... Although it is concievable he had used both at one time or another to try. He goes through more racquets then anyone else.
 

zspyderman

Rookie
When Murray used the i.radical MP Cosmetics on his PT57A it was 18x20. He uses 16x19 string pattern on his MG Radical cosmetics and YouTek Radical Cosmetics.
MurrayAusOpen2008a.jpg

Murray_2009_Canada_4.jpg

This should settle it. LOL
For those of you who have been loosing sleep over this, there you have it. Murray uses a 16x19 pattern.
Thx VSBabolat
 

Fedace

Banned
Are you sure, Murray isn't using the Youtek. He said he is trying to get used to the new feel of the frame...
 

zspyderman

Rookie
I just happen to own a bridge in Brooklyn. I would be happy to sell it to you at a very special low price just for you fedace. Is that something you would be interested in?
Hey, What's the swing weight, static weight and the stiffness of the bridge? Some might like to figure it out before commiting to buying... LOL And what's the broken yellow line desing down the middle of it...? Does that have a special meaning...?
 
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