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Yes, I'll definitely work on serve and volley techniques, MNPlayer, so I can have them available when needed. Thanks!
Thanks for the tips, Fuji! I definitely need to plan and implement some basic plays and strategies, improve my volleys, and work on more varied serve placement. And congratulations on moving from 4.0 to 4.5!
Placement is huge too! Great placement with minimal power can really solidify your game!!
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I am a big guy and have absolutely no problem hitting the snot out of the ball. At 3.5 (4 years ago) many of my opponents could not handle my pace (especially the serve) even when I gave them plenty of hitting errors.
However, the biggest improvement in my game has come from realizing that hitting at 85% with control is far superior to hitting at 99% with more errors.
Currently I get far fewer aces and clean winners than I used to. However what I get instead is well constructed points that put my opponents in weak / defensive positions.
I am now at the top of 4.0 and may be bumped to 4.5 in November. I attribute this improvement to roughly 40 lessons over the past 5 years where I learned ground stroke and volley techniques that emphasized consistency.
Yup. Even at 4.5, players are used to a lot of free points on serve and don't back up as well as they should. Get the ball back in and in a lot of cases they will hit a second shot that puts you in a nearly neutral rally.This is so true. Amazing what just getting returns back can do, at least at 4.0. Also it puts pressure on the server to serve bigger which often causes them to start double faulting.
Thanks, Govnor! I hope you get the time you need to make the official transition to 4.0.
if you want to get from 3.5 to 4.0 you will need some good league wins over quality opponents while avoiding the "bad loss"
My league results had been limited, but good this year. I beat a high ranked 3.5 and when we faced off again, lost a tough 3 setter that the computer will still show in my favor.
Had a decent run in a doubles tournament earlier in the year and have the State Open coming up to boot.
Unfortunately for me, I have a loss from tonight that is going to kill me. I got worked and quasi-pushed to the tune of 1 and 0 in a playoff round. Just couldn't get it working tonight and was given very few free points.
When that gets put into the computer it will kill my DNTRP. I guess that's ok since I've pretty much just played on match days this year with my injuries but still was a nice carrot in front of me for the year. Now it will just be time to shut it down for 45-60 days after State Open and get healthy/fit and start anew in the winter with some serious instruction and match play.
is there a way to figure out ur exact league ranking. cuz this year i went 5-1 at 3.5 only losing at 1 dubs vs 1 of the better teams. and won all 5 of my singles matches, and went 0-2 at 4.0 but played a 7-5 set in dubs had a weaker 4.0 as my partner and lost in single 3 and 2 but looked at early start rankings and i am still a 3.5.
Post video of yourself here we can analyze. If you are an athlete, not injured, this journey is viable and a matter of time and reps as long as there isn't a mental game deficit and you are coachable. Even if you coach you.
You also have to be willing to go for it. A lot of the guys I see mired in the level that begins with a '3' cannot release their need to win (or save face) and wouldn't rip a shot if you held a gun to their heads. They talk the talk, want to move up. They spend inordinate amounts of money on tennis lessons, clinics, hitting with this pro and that pro. But come money time ... wimpout.
So if you are an athlete, have a set of balls, then you'll get there if you have a plan and put in the reps. I enjoyed this journey after a layoff of about 20 years ... now kick around the people the USTA rates as 4.0 players on a regular basis.
The preceding posts have plenty of good tips along the lines of an approach. I started from scratch and left all of my old game behind.
any off court tips?
i am struggling to get any better than 3.5 and consistently get beaten by pushers
i have started on strengthening my legs so I have more power in my serve and also groundys
any workout regiment that you guys folow/suggest?
You look pretty tall in your video so your serve should be a weapon. I would work on getting more follow through and leg action to generate some additional serving speed.I still need to record one of my matches, but I do have this video of me doing some service practice last month:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=512_OaxIDPg
The first half is shot at distance; the second half shows my service motion.
In my opinion, 4.0 is not about hitting winners, it's still about preventing your opponents from coming to the net and avoiding unforced errors.
Coach is helpful at any level, at least biweekly, especially if you're serious about improving. Besides that, here is a few simple pointers, in order of importance:
1) Practice, practice, practice. Remember, playing a match/set is not good practice, unless you can play without worrying about winning (most people can't do that). The best drill is a baseline rally (with a person, not machine), either cross court (fh to fh) or half court (fh to bh), where the goal is to keep the ball deep (past the service line), try to hit at least 10 in a row (20 should be your goal). Another good drill is (2-3)baseline, then short ball, then volley, this really helps to improve footwork.
2) Keep the ball deep, and if possible, to opponent's weaker side. It doesn't have to be a great shot, just deep. It will force errors from your opponent and will give you short balls, which is a big advantage.
3) Work on improving 1st serve percentage, because 4.0 player rarely attack first serve, even if it's fairly weak. That will also help with second serve.
4) Learn to take advantage of short balls, and don't be afraid to move to the net, don't go back to the baseline after coming close the service line to hit a short ball. That's very important at this level, because you'll get A LOT of them, either because of error or on purpose. Lot's of pushers like to give you a short ball, then hit a passing shot or a lob. There is a simple strategy for short balls, if it's to your back hand, then slice deep to opponents weaker side. If it's to your forehand, hit deep down the line. Follow to the net along the path of the ball for a volley. If your opponent likes to lob stay closer to the service line (to hit an overhead), otherwise closer to the net.
5) Keep moving and applying pressure on your opponent, never stop moving during the point. Never assume you've won/lost the point, or that the ball is out. Always anticipate a return, and get ready to finish the point.
Good luck!
Thank you for the tips, Roman40! I have a hitting partner (a new 4.0), but he isn't interested in doing anything but playing sets. So, I'm trying to implement a lot of the advice of the other responders in this thread (and will do the same for your advice) during my practice matches with him. (And, yes, it's hard not focus on trying to make the score look better, rather than just work on aspects of my game. But I'm trying!)
I'm also trying find a coach. That would be really, really useful.
Yeah, lots of players don't like to do drills. However, some enjoy it after they try it. I would also suggest to look for more partners, since variety of practice partners and playing styles will better prepare you for league matches. That said, I am sure you guys warm up before playing sets, so try to incorporate drills into the warm up, even 30min of drills is better than nothing.Thank you for the tips, Roman40! I have a hitting partner (a new 4.0), but he isn't interested in doing anything but playing sets. So, I'm trying to implement a lot of the advice of the other responders in this thread (and will do the same for your advice) during my practice matches with him. (And, yes, it's hard not focus on trying to make the score look better, rather than just work on aspects of my game. But I'm trying!)
I'm also trying to find a coach. That would be really, really useful.
Hi, folks. I moved from 2.5 to 3.5 last year, and I am now trying to figure out how to get from my low 3.5 level to a 4.0 level. I've played 32 matches (mostly singles) this year on a local ladder; in three USTA tournaments in the 3.5 singles draws (I lost respectably in my first tournament, won the consolation final in the next, but got dusted in the last one); and a spring 3.5 men's league where I won one doubles match and one singles match but lost the rest (and lost my other singles matches badly). I practice my serve at least three times a week, and I hit against a wall or use a ball machine about once a week. I also play casual sets in singles and doubles two or so times a week. I take a lesson every three months or so. I'm over forty and in decent physical condition: 6'1", 180 lbs. What else should I do to reach my goal? Any recommendations or recommended threads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much!
I still need to record one of my matches, but I do have this video of me doing some service practice last month:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=512_OaxIDPg
The first half is shot at distance; the second half shows my service motion.