WHAt racket to get,,,,,Wilson vs yonex

buhm95 · Jan 30, 2012

I currently varsity player using blx six one 95 with RPM 17g #57pounds and it get really tiring and i cant control this racket after 4 games vsing big hitters because its heavy for me,,, I play with semi western so not crazy spin but enough spin on my shots baseline player. so i am looking racket which is not too hollow feel but pretty light something i can move player around angle to angle shots. I am currently thinking of WIlson steam 100 or YOnex ezone xi 98 or 100,,, I dont know if 98 will be heavy,,. any suggestions? i heard 2012 blx tour is coming out but i dont know. Wilson steam vs yonex ezone XI 98 or 100. help pleasee

buhm95 · Jan 30, 2012

OR maybe prostaff six one 95?

UCSF2012 · Jan 30, 2012

buhm95 said:
I currently varsity player using blx six one 95 with RPM 17g #57pounds and it get really tiring and i cant control this racket after 4 games vsing big hitters because its heavy for me,,, I play with semi western so not crazy spin but enough spin on my shots baseline player. so i am looking racket which is not too hollow feel but pretty light something i can move player around angle to angle shots. I am currently thinking of WIlson steam 100 or YOnex ezone xi 98 or 100,,, I dont know if 98 will be heavy,,. any suggestions? i heard 2012 blx tour is coming out but i dont know. Wilson steam vs yonex ezone XI 98 or 100. help pleasee

Your best solution is a shorter back swing, not a new racket.

Captain Tezuka · Jan 30, 2012

buhm95 said:
OR maybe prostaff six one 95?

The best thing is to demo. Try the Yonex VCORE 100 S will definitely improve your spin a lot. It's light as well. Try the blx six one team as well.

-Tezuka

Hm maybe Pro Open BLX will be good for you.

Chyeaah · Jan 30, 2012

buhm95 said:
OR maybe prostaff six one 95?

The team version of your current racquet should probably go well.

dekko1 · Jan 31, 2012

For a long time I played with Wilson.
Now I play with Yonex. I got too tired of getting rackets that were meant to be the same racket, but had different weight, different balance and even at same balance and weight felt completely different.

I chose quality.

Chyeaah · Jan 31, 2012

^ Lol. I know right. Having that Made in Japan just raises your game by 500%

un6a · Jan 31, 2012

I would check Yonex first. Much better quality.

Chyeaah · Jan 31, 2012

The Xi is pretty powerful. Try the V-Core line 98 and 100

spaceman_spiff · Jan 31, 2012

UCSF2012 said:
Your best solution is a shorter back swing, not a new racket.

Better footwork, better fitness, better technique.

Anyone who tires out (to the point where it affects technique) after four games needs to take a serious look at their fitness. Any timing issues against big hitters not due to fatigue are a sign of problems with footwork and/or technique.

Take this from a guy who was 5'2" as a freshman and played #2 singles (against juniors and seniors) with a PSC6.1. I had a lot of wins in highschool that were purely due to better fitness (opponents won the first set but burned out in the second all the time).

dekko1 · Jan 31, 2012

Chyeaah said:
^ Lol. I know right. Having that Made in Japan just raises your game by 500%

No, but when u have 6 rackets and they all feel completely different, it makes a big difference.

Satch · Jan 31, 2012

Chyeaah said:
^ Lol. I know right. Having that Made in Japan just raises your game by 500%

China will surpass Japan in 5-8 years max in quality... so it really doesn't matter.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

Six one team was too light for me i had it before, and its not that its because of my fitness,, maybe it is but mostly vsing big hitters, my racket just burn my arm. so yonex ezone xi is better?

Shaochieh · Jan 31, 2012

Just try a VCORE 95. It swing much easier than other 320g rackets out there.

Power Player · Jan 31, 2012

Hey man, you have RPM way too high in that stick. It should be at 52 or 54#s or less.

But if you can not handle it after 4 games then you need to fix your footwork or something. That's not normal.

Anyway..try the Yonex Vcore 100s like people are saying. It apparently hits pretty great for being so light.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

so vcore over ezone xi? did anyone tried zone xi yet? well when i had six one TEAM i had no problem but expect that i was too hollow.

Power Player · Jan 31, 2012

Im actually going to try out the Ezone xi in a few days.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

it was hollow*

spaceman_spiff · Jan 31, 2012

buhm95 said:
Six one team was too light for me i had it before, and its not that its because of my fitness,, maybe it is but mostly vsing big hitters, my racket just burn my arm. so yonex ezone xi is better?

Well, assuming your fitness is ok, then that leaves footwork and technique.

If it's only your arm getting burned, then most likely you're arming the ball. This could be due to poor footwork, poor technique, or a combination of both. You might not have noticed it against weaker players, but the big hitters are really exposing the problems.

The thing is, if your problem is footwork and/or technique, then a lighter setup (i.e., lower swingweight) won't help you. A lower swingweight will be less powerful than your current setup, so you'll have to swing the racket even faster to get the same amount of power. If you're already getting fatigued as it is, then trying to swing your arm even faster will only make you even more tired.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

can you help me out some drills? what to do ? and i am now looking for ezone xi 98 but is it for spin because i play with spin? or maybe 100s vcore.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

Power Player said:
Im actually going to try out the Ezone xi in a few days.

can you tell me how it plays like? spin wise and control?

Power Player · Jan 31, 2012

Yeah ill post about it. I use the american blx 6.1 16x18 just for reference.

RetroSpin · Jan 31, 2012

Power Player said:
Hey man, you have RPM way too high in that stick. It should be at 52 or 54#s or less.

But if you can not handle it after 4 games then you need to fix your footwork or something. That's not normal.

Anyway..try the Yonex Vcore 100s like people are saying. It apparently hits pretty great for being so light.

I thought the same thing. Also, isn't RPM notorious for going dead quickly? Maybe he should be trying different strings instead of worrying about a new frame. Put some BHBR or BHB7 in there.

Power Player · Jan 31, 2012

yeah..and full poly is not always best. It can hurt after a while.

I have been messing with gut mains and thats a game changer in the 6.1.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

i am deciding vcore 100s either ezone xi 98,, ,help i want more control and spin so yup. ah,,,, since rpm dies so fast,,, i break them every less than a week, which it dosent bother me that much.

spaceman_spiff · Jan 31, 2012

buhm95 said:
can you help me out some drills? what to do ? and i am now looking for ezone xi 98 but is it for spin because i play with spin? or maybe 100s vcore.

Before you ditch your current frame, just a quick question. Can you serve well for three full sets with your current setup? If so, then your racket isn't too heavy. (You might switch to another frame for other reasons, just not because of weight/swingweight.)

The best drill I can think of for shortening your swing is to hit groundstrokes where both players stand on the baseline (not behind it). Because you'll end up hitting a ton of balls on the rise, you'll eventually learn to shorten the swing. It also helps your footwork a bit because you have to move quicker to get set up in time.

A good drill for footwork is the down-the-middle-power drill. One guy hits every shot as hard as he possibly can (harder than any shot you would use in a real match) straight down the middle of the court while the other guy just tries to block the ball back. At first, you'll hit a bunch of wildly out-of-control shots and get tired very quickly. But over time, you'll make little tweaks here and there to your footwork and technique. Eventually, you'll get to the point where you can consistently set up in the right position (good footwork) and use your body to hit with power and a reasonable amount of control.

buhm95 · Jan 31, 2012

spaceman_spiff said:
Before you ditch your current frame, just a quick question. Can you serve well for three full sets with your current setup? If so, then your racket isn't too heavy. (You might switch to another frame for other reasons, just not because of weight/swingweight.)

The best drill I can think of for shortening your swing is to hit groundstrokes where both players stand on the baseline (not behind it). Because you'll end up hitting a ton of balls on the rise, you'll eventually learn to shorten the swing. It also helps your footwork a bit because you have to move quicker to get set up in time.

A good drill for footwork is the down-the-middle-power drill. One guy hits every shot as hard as he possibly can (harder than any shot you would use in a real match) straight down the middle of the court while the other guy just tries to block the ball back. At first, you'll hit a bunch of wildly out-of-control shots and get tired very quickly. But over time, you'll make little tweaks here and there to your footwork and technique. Eventually, you'll get to the point where you can consistently set up in the right position (good footwork) and use your body to hit with power and a reasonable amount of control.

My struggle on my serve the most. So hard to hit with... When I have six one team serv were gret but blx six one 95 struggle the most.. Can't get serves in goes in but so short, weak.

Captain Tezuka · Jan 31, 2012

spaceman_spiff said:
Before you ditch your current frame, just a quick question. Can you serve well for three full sets with your current setup? If so, then your racket isn't too heavy. (You might switch to another frame for other reasons, just not because of weight/swingweight.)

The best drill I can think of for shortening your swing is to hit groundstrokes where both players stand on the baseline (not behind it). Because you'll end up hitting a ton of balls on the rise, you'll eventually learn to shorten the swing. It also helps your footwork a bit because you have to move quicker to get set up in time.

A good drill for footwork is the down-the-middle-power drill. One guy hits every shot as hard as he possibly can (harder than any shot you would use in a real match) straight down the middle of the court while the other guy just tries to block the ball back. At first, you'll hit a bunch of wildly out-of-control shots and get tired very quickly. But over time, you'll make little tweaks here and there to your footwork and technique. Eventually, you'll get to the point where you can consistently set up in the right position (good footwork) and use your body to hit with power and a reasonable amount of control.

Hey,

This is a great idea and I have a few friends who could help me practise.

They will be blasting the balls at me while I block. This is also good for volleys, block returns on serve and maybe half volleys. Great awesome idea spaceman_spiff.

-Tezuka

spaceman_spiff · Feb 1, 2012

Captain Tezuka said:
Hey,

This is a great idea and I have a few friends who could help me practise. They will be blasting the balls at me while I block. This is also good for volleys, block returns on serve and maybe half volleys. Great awesome idea spaceman_spiff.

-Tezuka

All credit goes to my ex-GF. One day she told me to hit as hard as I could to her. She was trying to push herself and test her potential.

I just kept swinging harder and harder, until I got the the point where I was going beyond anything I would ever use in a match. When we went back to normal hitting, I noticed my footwork and preparation had improved, which made it much easier to generate power and control the ball on my normal shots.

Captain Tezuka · Feb 1, 2012

spaceman_spiff said:
All credit goes to my ex-GF. One day she told me to hit as hard as I could to her. She was trying to push herself and test her potential.

I just kept swinging harder and harder, until I got the the point where I was going beyond anything I would ever use in a match. When we went back to normal hitting, I noticed my footwork and preparation had improved, which made it much easier to generate power and control the ball on my normal shots.

Wow but does it work for the person on the other end the one receiving the shots? Also you could rotate the roles. Although I wonder if your GF could hit as hard as you? I'll definitely give it a try.

edwincen · Feb 1, 2012

Satch said:
China will surpass Japan in 5-8 years max in quality... so it really doesn't matter.

I think we're talking about buying a racket now, not 5-8 years ahead.

spaceman_spiff · Feb 1, 2012

Captain Tezuka said:
Wow but does it work for the person on the other end the one receiving the shots? Also you could rotate the roles. Although I wonder if your GF could hit as hard as you? I'll definitely give it a try.

She didn't try doing the same, so I'm not sure what benefit it has for the defending player. I guess it might help you shorten your swing and sharpen your reflexes.

Or, you can just use it as a rest period when you swap roles.

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