One last thing, these "gurus", who show you algebraic charts have no clue, yea they seem impressive, but they can't factor in desire, intellect, the emotions of fear and joy, so they should be dismissed.
Tennis is simply transferring the mind into the body, doesn't matter if you hold your racquet Western or Eastern, these are basics, it's in the MIND, PERIOD.
sureshs, your best tennis is your inner Oscar. You just need 5263 to bring it out of you.
Having thought about "Tips" for some time, I believe I have the answer. Yes, you must be in shape, yes, you must practice non stop, but the answer is easy.
Look at all the advice solicited on this forum. Most people DON'T KNOW. Even the good players are not sure.
ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE! ALWAYS. Think! Guy practice the so called "Modern Game", that only means they can't handle mid-court or the net, they were TRAINED to dictact from the baseline.
Likewise, if you find, which is rare, a true SV learn baseline play.
But it gets better than that. Questions are asked, "How to improve.......". The answer is obvious, practice, practice, then more, do EVERYTHING what do you have to lose?
How do you have a top ranked player "Not very good at the net", or anything? Just like making muscle, you use muscle confusion to make your muscles adapt, same deal here, EVERY SHOT should be different, long baseling shot, then a short lob, then net, the baseling, these guys today ARE ROBOTS!
Mix it up. Think about it, you are a baseliner, then once in awhile you have a short lob barely over the new, will that not make you insecure? You heh never know do you. What about side spin low shots that I do and others are doing?.
When I hear, "How do I improve my forehand", for example, no offense but I think "Do what I did, practice your tail off to see what works of throw in the towel", I mean what are we talking about here, "Well, see, hold your hand like this, and....."
Tennis is a totally mental sport, that's why it's popular even though we don't think that, it's MENTAL. I'm in HORRIBLE SHAPE, but I'd whip most on this board by making quick winners.
So forget this "New Tennis" BS, even Sampras said "Well in the modern game I"d lick my chops at someone who wants to stay back".
Ignore all of these "Gurus", who give us plentious words, just to be paid".
Do like what MR. Miogy said "YOUR BEST TENNIS IS NOT LEARNED BUT IS INSIDE YOU"
Modern game includes no mid-court or net play?
Wrong.
Mick you need to do some research into what top academies and coaches are teaching. The reason why most players have abandoned the net isn't because they don't know how to volley, or cannot handle mid-court balls. It is because its not a high percentage play anymore to come to the net constantly at a high level. A player is too vulnerable up there. Also, instead of coming to the net players finish a lot of points mid-court. Current players are better in the mid-court then 20-30 years ago. They are hitting harder, stronger shots, more angles, etc from there.
Coaches nowadays teach all aspects of the game, its ridiculous how complete a lot of training programs are. All areas of the court are covered, all tactical situations etc. At Sanchez-Casal for example they pay as much attention to net play as they do to mid-court and baseline play. The reason why players choose to play at the baseline is because that is the nature of the game now and their best shot at winning. It isn't the coaches forcing kids to play only from the back.
If there was any loop hole, anything missed it would be covered and used a long time ago. Top players look for any advantage they can get and coaches scout, analyze, and teach the best way they can for their students to win. Also, you cannot force a player who is comfortable and has the mentality to play at the baseline to all of a sudden expect them to become serve and volley'ers, it just doesn't work that way.
You got it balla,Modern game includes no mid-court or net play?
Wrong.
One last thing, these "gurus", who show you algebraic charts have no clue, yea they seem impressive, but they can't factor in desire, intellect, the emotions of fear and joy, so they should be dismissed.
Tennis is simply transferring the mind into the body, doesn't matter if you hold your racquet Western or Eastern, these are basics, it's in the MIND, PERIOD.
Kids, this is why you don't take drugs.
Kids, this is why you don't take drugs and start posting.
sureshs, your best tennis is your inner Oscar
So forget this "New Tennis" BS, even Sampras said "Well in the modern game I"d lick my chops at someone who wants to stay back".
Why "even" Sampras? Because everyone else is a better serve and volleyer than him?
BTW, Nadal would have taken him out easily.
I have to say he has a point. Players my age and younger lose to older guys who love to hack, slick, lob (constantly), super good defense, volley, etc. because the shot difference mixes them up. I get really close sets with my uncle for that reason bc while I'm slamming them corner to corner, he pops a super high lob on the baseline. He doesn't do it all the time but only when on the defense. Its a good strategy that I hope to incorporate into my game. The OLD MAN's GAME! lolol
One guy at my local courts loves to hit a forehand slice. It has crazy sidespin. He says he's used it many a time to dismiss them young guns... lol
Modern game includes no mid-court or net play?
Wrong.
Mick you need to do some research into what top academies and coaches are teaching. The reason why most players have abandoned the net isn't because they don't know how to volley, or cannot handle mid-court balls. It is because its not a high percentage play anymore to come to the net constantly at a high level. A player is too vulnerable up there. Also, instead of coming to the net players finish a lot of points mid-court. Current players are better in the mid-court then 20-30 years ago. They are hitting harder, stronger shots, more angles, etc from there.
Coaches nowadays teach all aspects of the game, its ridiculous how complete a lot of training programs are. All areas of the court are covered, all tactical situations etc. At Sanchez-Casal for example they pay as much attention to net play as they do to mid-court and baseline play. The reason why players choose to play at the baseline is because that is the nature of the game now and their best shot at winning. It isn't the coaches forcing kids to play only from the back.
If there was any loop hole, anything missed it would be covered and used a long time ago. Top players look for any advantage they can get and coaches scout, analyze, and teach the best way they can for their students to win. Also, you cannot force a player who is comfortable and has the mentality to play at the baseline to all of a sudden expect them to become serve and volley'ers, it just doesn't work that way.
I have to say he has a point. Players my age and younger lose to older guys who love to hack, slick, lob (constantly), super good defense, volley, etc. because the shot difference mixes them up. I get really close sets with my uncle for that reason bc while I'm slamming them corner to corner, he pops a super high lob on the baseline. He doesn't do it all the time but only when on the defense. Its a good strategy that I hope to incorporate into my game. The OLD MAN's GAME! lolol
One guy at my local courts loves to hit a forehand slice. It has crazy sidespin. He says he's used it many a time to dismiss them young guns... lol
So if I truly believe in my mind that I can be taught real tennis, I can become Robert DeNiro? Is that the point of the first post?
In all seriousness, do you think it is a coincidence that this thread and the "sissies" thread were both started on a Friday or Saturday night?
This is a excellent explanation of why S+V is no longer used much or very effective at the higher levels of tennis any longer.
No problem Mick. At least half the posts I've made here have been under the influence of LOTS of beer.Yea, I am a honest man, little bit of beer each time. At least I admit it, society today pretends to be perfect, I'm not, so yea I let it go once in awhile when I'm not so politically correct, some find it refreshing truth, even if I make a mistake.
Great vid. It's a keeper. Thanks.Watch .50 seconds in and tell me playing mid court is not important. You teachers ruin the game by strangling creativity;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EazofVGBoF4
No problem Mick. At least half the posts I've made here have been under the influence of LOTS of beer.
But I'm absolutely sober now, and do agree that of all the factors involved in becoming the best player one can become, the most important are the internal and internalized ones. I bolded and italicized "internalized" because I think that at least some of the good inside stuff can be learned from practicing things communicated by insightful teachers.
Mick, I've never taken a tennis lesson, don't practice much, and don't think when I'm playing. I'm not sure, but I think there's a connection between one or more of those things and the fact that my unique and creatively beautiful tennis game sucks competitively.
I understand, but I'm telling you if you and I both hit a wall things would be very close, the difference is my MENTAL transference to my body, that's all.
I am into science, but also faith, my faith says we are made in God's image, and one of those traits I've studied is man, among all creatures, creativity. In other words, knowledge is one thing, creativity CREATES KNOWLEDGE, something unique to man.
So maybe I had the disavantage of not really being taught, as I said before, kids today aren't really "taught" computers, but my son can outdue me, maybe we are more open younger? I don't know.
Anyways God bless, next time you play think of me, that I NEVER think of what I'm going to do, TRY IT, you have nothing to lose, you may be surprised if you mentally inject CONFIDENCE for "Do this", that you will do a shot that you look back on and say "Wow, I did that". This proves my point I think.
Great vid. It's a keeper. Thanks.
You miss the entire point, I don't CARE what so called "Academics" and others theorize, if you can play at the net I'll kill you, simply as that. Don't train at mid-court, I'll kill you, and baseline is simplest of all!
So just because the game today is baseline doesn't mean it's right, you'll see next S&V who comes into the game, what are you going to do with your stats then?
You miss the entire point, I don't CARE what so called "Academics" and others theorize, if you can play at the net I'll kill you, simply as that. Don't train at mid-court, I'll kill you, and baseline is simplest of all!
So just because the game today is baseline doesn't mean it's right, you'll see next S&V who comes into the game, what are you going to do with your stats then?
Watch .50 seconds in and tell me playing mid court is not important. You teachers ruin the game by strangling creativity;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EazofVGBoF4
Academics and theories? I said academy coaches, not academics. Look up what a tennis academy is. Also, these are no theories.
That's not mid court, that's net play.
Anyways, serious question here. Where did you come to the conclusion that tennis coaches strangle players creativity?
Simple, all you have to do is WATCH IT BEFORE SPEAKING.
Watch Fed pick up shots mid court, "No mans land", his "No Way" shots, by commentators and fans are always mid court or the net, so think what you will, hate debating emotional women who can't use logic.
I am not a woman but its nice to know you are showing your true colours with degrading comments such as that. You are looking for a debate, so keep it civil and intelligent at least.
It's incredible, you listen to commentators, they say things like "Well Djokavich is not good at the net", AMAZING, top guy, can't play all court.
Maybe you need a lesson in all court, all it means is that someone is as accomplished everywhere they play, a baseliner in not, so modern teachers "Choke Creativity" BIG TIME when they say "Oh, yea the game has changed, get back three feet behind the baseline, here's your 110 inch racket, I look good, get paid right"?
Wrong, fabrication.
Guarenteed, next great serve and volleyer, or if they speed up courts, you'll be like "Heh, we need to train the new way, all court", "We don't do mindless baseline anymore".
Key word there "IF". Right now the courts at the pro level are slow, thus baseline play and mid-court rules, not net play. Supports my statement from my earlier post, thanks.
I play with people like you on the courts, you have no idea how to deal with a short side spin shot, hard low left angled shot, no clue! I beat pro's girl, so don't talk unless you know what you are talking about, sick of fools who can't play trying to commentate my points that can help others, Tennis is in the MIND.
That's funny right there.
By the way, you still have not answered my question as to where you've come to all these conclusion about coaches not teaching the right way and not being creative? Have you studied methods, taken on-court certification courses, watched multi-national coaches teach young juniors, traveled around training centres seeing first hand whats being taught etc?
You miss the entire point, I don't CARE what so called "Academics" and others theorize, if you can play at the net I'll kill you, simply as that. Don't train at mid-court, I'll kill you, and baseline is simplest of all!
So just because the game today is baseline doesn't mean it's right, you'll see next S&V who comes into the game, what are you going to do with your stats then?
I play with people like you on the courts, you have no idea how to deal with a short side spin shot, hard low left angled shot, no clue!
Ash,You've seen Balla hit right? Because, you know, he's pretty good!
Oh, and what about when you play people like me, who know exactly how to deal with a short sidespin shot or a "low left angled shot"?