Any P1 users NOT using poly?. My demo had a full set of syngut and felt great.
I am worried I will lose that great feel with poly, but I want to upgrade from plain
old syngut. Maybe a low power multi or a hybrid with a multi mains and poly cross?
Try multi mains and gosen sheep crosses both at 56 - 58 lbs.
It's quite good but only last me 3 hours each racquet.
Or you can go pro line 2 mains 48 and excel crosses 50 lbs.
This last me 6 hours b4 crosses snap
xone or any other pro one users;
can you tell me if you've used 17g cyclone on these sticks and how you liked it?
also what tension would you recommend for a full bed of cyclone?
thanks!
depends on what power level you want. Middle of the road, I would string at 54/52.
for more power 50/48. More control 57/55.
just got my new Pro One from TW.....
the spec sticker says 309 grams unstrung and now with strings, overgrip and dampener it weighs 335 grams in total..
Does that sound right to you that strings, og and dampener added 20 grams? I am not going to cut out strings to check the unstrung weight right now, but this is definitely heavier than I wanted.
Edit...I guess this is possible. I just weight a full set of poly (19 grams) + overgrip (7 grams) + dampener (2 grams) = total of 28 grams. That would make unstrung weight 310, which is almost exactly on spec.
thanks for the response jack!
have you found that when using a full bed of poly you seem to get better results by having different tensions for the mains and crosses?
just got my new Pro One from TW.....
the spec sticker says 309 grams unstrung and now with strings, overgrip and dampener it weighs 335 grams in total..
Does that sound right to you that strings, og and dampener added 20 grams? I am not going to cut out strings to check the unstrung weight right now, but this is definitely heavier than I wanted.
Edit...I guess this is possible. I just weight a full set of poly (19 grams) + overgrip (7 grams) + dampener (2 grams) = total of 28 grams. That would make unstrung weight 310, which is almost exactly on spec.
how are you finding that to play? also what is your swingweight here? i find that to be the real key anyways... kind of like temperature and wind chill.... it's 5 degrees outside but feels like negative 20.... well to me that is negative 20 haha...
^^^ suppawat good posting.. you still knocking your donnays or did you move to the angell?
not sure what the sw is yet, but I'll check it soon.
not really liking the full poly (Volkl Cyclone Tour). I'm never really a fan of full poly though, much prefer hybrids. First time trying this string too. Feels very "plasticky" to me. It takes away some of the nice ball feel I had with the full syngut I had in my demo. Need to try something different when I restring.
I want to find a setup that is on the soft side without getting too powerful.
Yes I am still playing Donnay Pro One 18x20 and the 105 sq.in prototype frame. The 105 is really nice, Formula power and much better control. All my Angell frames are borrowed for testing, so I didn't play Angell a lot as expected. The other frames I want to try are Head Graphene Speed Pro and Wilson Steam 99s. Have you tried those racquets?
Do you have a pic of the 105? What will this end up being? Do you know? Ive been knocking some of the pro stock pro ones lately and they are so nice. Heavy but ridiculously solid and smooth through the ball
Kal, I finally got around to measuring the swingweight of my Pro One and it was 330. That's interesting because the static weight was 309. Where are all these 318 sw racquets that Donnay claims to be the average spec?. I don't think one exists that is under 320.
Yes I am still playing Donnay Pro One 18x20 and the 105 sq.in prototype frame. The 105 is really nice, Formula power and much better control. All my Angell frames are borrowed for testing, so I didn't play Angell a lot as expected. The other frames I want to try are Head Graphene Speed Pro and Wilson Steam 99s. Have you tried those racquets?
Mine measured 322 SW with an overgrip and dampener.
Kal, I finally got around to measuring the swingweight of my Pro One and it was 330. That's interesting because the static weight was 309. Where are all these 318 sw racquets that Donnay claims to be the average spec?. I don't think one exists that is under 320.
tried the steam 99s. great spin, but hated the feel of the frame.. not for me. wilson and i generally just don't get along
have not tried the new speed yet, though it is on a list to demo. ive been swinging the donnay pt-924 pro ones lately and they are my go to right now... absolutely lethal
tried the steam 99s. great spin, but hated the feel of the frame.. not for me. wilson and i generally just don't get along
have not tried the new speed yet, though it is on a list to demo. ive been swinging the donnay pt-924 pro ones lately and they are my go to right now... absolutely lethal
Kal
Do you have a link to get more info on these?
Cheers
nigel
Hi Kal-El
Yeah man, same here. Killer spin, didn't like the feel. If they can make a similar string pattern in a frame that isn't a 70 ra, but somewhere like 62-66 ra, that might be worth a serious look. In the current iteration my arm cant take full poly, and I fear gut poly in a radically open pattern just wouldn't be practical.
Question about your pro stock frame(s), are they typical pro stock frames.. ie under spec with lead under the grommets? or just built heavy from the get go?
-Jack
Donnay website specs are 100% pure fiction. That's really hard to fathom from company that has the cohones to measure and indicate the specs on every single frame that rolls of the line with a qc sticker. Demonstrating, all at once, an admirable commitment to QC, yet an utter disdain for anybody who knows how to read and click a mouse.
If the Donnay website listing of 318 is an average then there would be just as many 308's as there are 328's. No way is that possible. The TW listing of 327 for the average strung P1 is far more accurate.
327 is a far more accurate SW average, making Tballs 322 totally believable.
Jack
on what? the steams are a pretty decent topic of discussion right now and the pt pro ones are out of pro stock and not retail, so there wont be much mention of them i don't think.
suppawat and miami jack i think have probably hit with them but that is probably it as far as i know on the boards
Hey Kal
Not the Steams, the donnay pt-924 pro ones that you use. But I guess they are unobtanium
I'm not bothering with the Steams, I'll just mess around with the string patterns now that I've got the stringing supplies I was waiting for.
haha i would estimate the pro ones i have are around 350g or so strung... maybe more. i will post some more information once i have weighed it all out though
The PT-924 Pro One (Blake Pro) I have is 310g stock, 69RA, 97 sq.in, 18x20, 20mm, and dual core construction. In stock form, it's not so playable - low power, unstable. I tried several customizations. The best one is 365g strung - 5g in the head (3/9) and 25-30g in the handle. For string, the Weisscannon Dual Reality (22kg main, 24kg cross) works best for my flat hitting style. With this set up, it creates soft classic feel like Wilson Pro Staff, with nice pop, power, and plow-thru. I think the cross synthetic string makes the stringbed so special and old-school feel. It's pretty arm-friendly too. Try it.
Compared to Pro One 18x20, the Pro One 18x20 is more ready to go in stock form, easier to play, and works well with many poly strings. I am going to stick with Pro One 18x20 for a while.
The pro stocks have thinner beam? Sell them to me?
Will be getting my n°3 and 4 27.5inches tomorrow in NY....
Thanks, been using the Pro One for 2 weeks and having trouble getting the right feel. I'm coming from 20 years with the Wilson PS 85/Tour 90 leaded to 13.5 oz. I always strung the Wilsons with Gosen OG 17 between 58 & 62 and haven't played much for the last 4 years.
I'm getting older, I'm not Sampras, and even Sampras doesn't play with that thing anymore. Roman convinced me to try the Donnays and for the most part I'm liking it. I'm adjusting to the lighter weight, but played in a tourney last week and was amazed how much spin the younger guys were creating. First string jobs were with multi mains 55 and poly crosses 52. Multi breaks after about 3.5 hours - poly chews through it. With this set up felt just sort of meh - I know poly isn't going to have the crispness of the syn gut but I'm searching and I need access to some more spin to compete. I have to get both restrung, do you have a suggestion for full poly?
How about a brand at 50 lbs?
What about these super low tensions at 35?
Do you do stringing? If not I'll take them to ****.
Thanks,
Ryan
Multi mains w/ poly crosses is not a recommended setup for spin. You need to reverse it and use something a little harder and slicker for the crosses. Multi's are too soft and gummy and don't allow the poly to slide.
I would suggest a copoly / syngut hybrid. One of my fav's is Prince Beast 17g / Babalot Nvy 17 at 52/54.
agree with JackB here. I play Solinco Tour Bite / Solinco Barb Wire combo but that is both poly.
I am partial to the Donnay X-Micron for hybrid purposes. Very soft and good durability for its type of string. If you have some tour bite, try that on the mains with something similar to that on a cross and you should be good to go. don't be afraid to try a full bed of a good co-poly either