[1] Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Lukas ROSOL (CZE)

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by 6-1 6-3 6-0, Jun 28, 2012.

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Who will win?

Poll closed Jun 29, 2012.
  1. Nadal in 3

    12.6%
  2. Nadal in 4

    3.2%
  3. Nadal in 5

    11.6%
  4. Rosol in 3

    8.4%
  5. Rosol in 4

    8.4%
  6. Rosol in 5

    55.8%
  1. [Z]engin

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    Is this the first time that Nadal loses a best of 5 after he won the first set?
     
  2. dimeaxe

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    I'm Djokovic fan, but I think something was wrong with Nadal. I know that Rosol played out of his mind, but Rafa was really out of sorts, terrible movement, slipping at least 5 times, checking grass humidity...I don't know, maybe he underestimated his opponent, or he felt like emotionally drained after his RG triumph.For sure He'll be back, but this tournament without him is not the same.
     
  3. Netspirit

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    No. But it is rare. Federer beat him in Miami after losing the first 2 sets.
     
  4. Rocky89

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    Just woke up to see the results and I'm shocked! I went to bed after the 2nd set thinking Nadal would take this in 4.

    Was really hoping he would take Wimbly.

    Also reading through all the comments the blatant hate is sickening. I'm sure the haters are having a field day over this.
     
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  6. Towser83

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    I disagree. What if the match ahd gone another 35 mins and was locked at say 5-5 or 6-6, now you have to take a 45 min break with nadal coming back to serve knowing if he gets broken,Rosol is serving for the match? Would that have been fair to him? It makes much more sense to take the break between sets than in the middle/later stages of one, where the break of momentum can be an almost instant match decider.

    The break in play hurt him but at least gave ample chance to break back.
     
  7. Towser83

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    not rare this year, he lost the AO final after winning the first set.
     
  8. bezs

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    I'm surprised TTW hasn't exploded yet :p
     
  9. Clarky21

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    It wouldn't be The Church of Fed otherwise. It's always like this here. You just have to remember that a lot of these people are sad and pathetic folks who are missing something in their lives if they take this much joy out of some stranger losing a tennis match. Just point,laugh at them,and move on.
     
  10. Towser83

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    Fix the problems? He's always had the same problems, just most years he gets through these 5 set scares. He probably will next year again, but I don't think he'll be fixing any problems, this is just the way it's been since 2006 and he's done well most years.
     
  11. Towser83

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    seems weird from you, because you constantly **** off nadal and when he does win titles, you take no pleasure from it and merely make excuses for why the other guy lost.

    You also moan about the hate for nadal, whilst dishing out the same about Djokovic.

    I agree with you though, it's just tennis, no point in being like let's say NSK and living your whole life for someone who doesn't know you exist and doesn't care about you really. That is a pathetic attitude to have.
     
  12. Clarky21

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    You missed my point. When have I ever trolled a Rolaids match thread when he was losing or lost? When have I ever started multiple different threads gloating about him losing a match,or picking on his looks? Please find any posts I have ever made that even resemble the hate-filled psychotic posts that are posted about Nadal here on a daily basis.

    I do not like Rolaids,but I have NEVER wished for him to die,destroy his knees,tear his acl and have to retire,get stabbed like Monica Seles,die in a plane crash etc...,but I have seen all of those things posted about Nadal on here. You know the difference in what I am saying very well. There is something wrong with people who say such things,and makes me think Nadal needs to hire some bodyguards to protect him from the loons. How can you possibly deny that?
     
  13. TRT001

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    Just out of interest has TeamNadal shown himself since this loss?
     
  14. Clarky21

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    That annoying troll was banned,but he has returned under a new name. He won't show his troll face for a while though after this. He's also not even a Nadal fan,and just poses as one to stir the hate against Nadal on here as if it needed stirring. Ignore him. You'll be glad you did.
     
  15. Sid_Vicious

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    Seriously? There is nothing pathetic about people who are not fans of Nadal to celebrate his loss. As a matter of fact, these people are actually normal sports fans.

    You, a self-proclaimed Nadal fan, on the other hand, have insinuated that Nadal is greedy, selfish, possesses below average intellect, and have insulted his tennis game on innumerable occasions. You have essentially become a hypocrite. You bash Nadal in the most personal manner imaginable. That is even lower than those members form the "Church of Federer" who call him a pusher and moonballer.

    You really are not one to talk. You have never missed an opportunity to criticize Djokovic. You have called him an attention *****, doper, accused him of lying about his injuries... pretty much every hateful thing the members of the "Church of Federer" have said about Nadal, you have said about Djokovic. Which is why your post implies that you are among those "sad and pathetic people"
     
  16. Towser83

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    Ok fair enough, of course that is much different, but I have only seen gloating about the match here, not death wishes in this particular thread, which is what I thought we were talking about? Not that I generally like to gloat except in the face of people like MultipleAccountKing :lol:

    You SPECIFICALLY refered to people getting joy out of a tennis match being lost, nothing about wishing someone dying etc, you're just bring that up now. So I didn't miss the point at all, you did. You missed your own point :lol: Here is the post -

    Anyone who wishes death on someone is a disgrace, I wonder how they would feel if it actually happened. But that's not what was being discussed.
     
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    And I also routinely start troll threads about Rolaids,wish death on him,and troll his match threads when he's losing so badly that they are unreadable. Yep,I am just as bad as the likes of those people. :roll:


    Oh,and I may be harsh on Nadal,but I have never wished for him to die or be permanently maimed in any way. I really don't think that saying,for example,that he could speak better English than he does even comes close to some of the trash people say on here. And I am not talking about him being a moonballer or a pusher.
     
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  18. TonyB

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    Quite frankly, I was amazed by two things after this match:

    1) Rafa picked up Rosol's racquet and gave it to him after it dropped over the net after the match.

    2) Rafa stayed on court and signed some autographs after the loss.


    Really good sportsmanship after the loss. This despite the gamesmanship DURING the match (we all know what this is, so I won't repeat it here). Well done Rafa.
     
  19. Towser83

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    I think often players are just fired up during a match. I remember Fed being very pissed off during the US Open final in 2009, but after losing gave loads of credit to Delpo.
     
  20. tudwell

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    If 45 minutes of rest is enough to recover from being spent, then why do the slams only play matches every other day? Hell, we could knock out half the tournament in a day - make them just a weekend long.
     
  21. DeShaun

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    Which in principle seems like Rafa celebrating an opponent's error.
     
  22. SLD76

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    at least during USO fed had a legit beef after Delpo had taken 3 years to decide whether or not to challenge a call.

    Fed wasnt trying to game Delpo, but he had a legit beef on why the ump let delpo challenge after the ball boys were off the court and fed was in his chair for the changeover, lol.
     
  23. BreakPoint

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    It's akin to when 2-time defending Wimbledon champion Boris Becker lost in the 2nd round to unknown Peter Doohan in 1987, after lifting the trophy in the two previous years.
     
  24. BreakPoint

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    Does any other country matter? :wink:
     
  25. TonyB

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    Yeah, except this wasn't in a post-match interview. This was ON THE COURT immediately after the loss. That shows a lot of class, really.

    Anyone can compose themselves and prepare a post-match-interview statement. But these were actions on-court that showed good sportsmanship.

    And I don't even like Rafa, frankly. I was surprised at his reactions.
     
  26. Towser83

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    Yeah I think he was more annoyed with the umpire letting him challenge, than at Delpo himself

    Well Federer gave Delpo a very warm handshake/congratulations at the net as well, I think as much as he could be, he was pleased to see the joy at a first time slam winner and someone who is very respectful and modest like Delpo as well. I mean of course he was gutted, he's said that was his hardest slam loss ever, but you could see he had respect for del potro and knew what it meant to him. But overall he seems to like Del Potro more than Murray and Djokovic for instance.

    Plus Federer was interviewed on court right after the match, before he could even go back to his locker room or anything so the initial feelings of loss were still there
     
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  27. Crisstti

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    Well, that was disappointing. And Germany lost to Italy. Yet. Again. :-?

    What a bad sporting day.

    Rafa really seemed out of it, at least until the fourth set... like Muster said, he just hasn't made the transition to grass, he hasn't played one good match on grass yet. He would probably really benefit of a longer grass season.
    He seemed to be playing with no confidence, hitting loopy forehands, not going for angles... playing way too passive. No rhythm.

    I guess it's not necessary to read too much into this, since he had before 5 set matches in the first week that he could have lost. He just managed to escape then, and not now. Never saw those other matches though, was his level similar to this?.

    He was clearly perjudiced by the break though. Why does the roof take SO long to close?, 40 minutes?, doesn't seem right.

    It sure is one of the greatest matches for haters, who find no joy apparently in someone winning, but just in someone losing... quite pathetic.

    Agree very much with you there.
     
  28. not_federer

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    It takes ten minutes to close the roof, 30 minutes to cool the arena enough to keep the grass from wilting, or something... It's about the grass, not the roof.
     
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    WHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAT?!!!!!! Is this some kind of a JOKE? Just saw the result and tell me it ain't true please.
     
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    Murray's especially. He has an excellent chance of making the final this year.
     
  31. Crisstti

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    Also, why was Nadal slipping so much?. Weird.
     
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    I seriously think he just was not ready to make the transition to grass. This loss reminds me a lot of the way he lost at Wimby in 2005 after having won his first slam. I think it took more out of him than he led on to win RG,and finally get the Rolaids monkey off his back during the clay season. He just was not mentally ready.
     
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    Davai Federer. :)
     
  34. Crisstti

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    Yeah, guess you're probably right...
     
  35. Alchemy-Z

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    Rosol went for it great job hope he can keep the run going.
     
  36. Ico

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    Glorious match. Made all the sweeter by the fact that NSK started the thread.
     
  37. JeMar

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    Nah, this leaves them more time to show us the Williams sister running over qualifiers in the doubles.
     
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    Nadal was briefly ranked 3rd earlier this year in Rome (although he was seeded 2nd)
     
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    ESPN tennis seems pretty pointless these days. "Here let's show you all the American players playing their matches. Williams, Williams, Sloane Stevens, Andy Roddick, Ryan Harrison, and Christina McHale." Awesome.

    Also, it's funny how the person who started this thread speculates obsessively about POTENTIAL records that Nadal could set by winning the whole title, not just this match (which he lost), and also posts a picture of Nadal winning the Wimbledon title in a previous year. Seems like some kind of personality disorder is present to be honest.
     
  40. JeMar

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    My favorite part of this match was the way that Rosol would strike a ball and start walking back to the baseline while Nadal was still trying to chase it down, knowing that he just hit a winner that no one would be able to reach. So deliciously confident, almost arrogant. Then, when Nadal bumped him during that changeover, he just laughed it with a "lol, what a sissy" smile.
     
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    Who was the American that took Rafa to 5 sets in 2006? He kind of looks like Mardy Fish.
     
  42. JeMar

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    Robert Kendrick in 2006. I think he also played a five-setter in 2007, but that was against Soderling.
     
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    Robert Kendrick.

    Suspended for 12 months as of May, 2011 for doping.
     
  44. BreakPoint

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    Because it would have made his cheating tactics WAY too obvious this time since they had just been back in the locker room for over a half hour waiting for the roof to close. If he claimed he needed a MTO because he had some physical issue, people would have wondered why he didn't already take care of it when he was off the court for over a half hour.
     
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    Um...since when has that ever stopped Nadal from calling for a MTO? :oops:
     
  46. BreakPoint

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    That's because Rosol is 6' 5". Nadal's high bouncing topspin forehands sit up right into tall guys' hitting zone. Tall guys like Del Potro and Soderling also wail off of Nadal's high bouncing forehands. :)
     
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    Color me surprised when I checked live scores on my cell while at work.
     
  48. GodNovak

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    So did Rafa lose? I would be thrilled haha
     
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    Yeah I was so right !!! Nadal not making SF!!!
     

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