**** #1 Redondo Talks Thread ****

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by anirut, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. anirut

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    Dear fellow Redondians!

    I think it would be nice if we can collect discussions regarding the Redondo in one thread, to make it easier to find infomation in one place, instead of having threads scattered all over.

    The #1 I put there is just the thread 'serial number', just in case the thread gets too big to follow.

    So, please post your reviews, comments, questions, customization, etc. in this thread. And please try to direct any new question thread about the Redondo to this thread.

    I hope this will make it enjoyable to all.

    Thanks.

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    REDONDO REVIEWS & COMPARISONS:

    REVIEWS

    Question on the new PK Type C Redondo Mid: A big thread with many players' comments
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=62669

    ProKennex Redondo 93: by Max8950
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=72097

    My first take on Redondo 93 Review:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=79707&page=1

    Pro Kennex Type C Redondo Mid - my (long) experience: by Hedges
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=80766

    Redondo as Doctor's Prescription: by jm4121
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1207378&postcount=796

    Redondo Mid Review: by movdqa
    http://www.vector64.com/redondo.html

    Redondo Review: by samster
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1334228&postcount=1088

    Redondo 98 Review - jdeloach Style: by samster
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=131689

    Redondo 98 Review: by matchmaker
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=161534

    Redondo Mid Review: by roundiesee
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=253592


    COMPARISON

    Redondo 93 VS 98: by theJuice, post#266
    Page 14, #266: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1073221&postcount=266

    Redondo 93 VS 98: short comparison by rasajadad
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1183340&postcount=670

    Redondo 98 VS FXP Prestige MP thread:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=105943
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=158415

    ProKennex Redondo MP vs. Head Pro Tour 630/280 PART II by michael chaho:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=105111

    O3 Hybrid Tour v. Redondo MP: by theJuice
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=101849

    Redondo 98 vs POGOS vs Volkl C10 and PK 7G: by Polaris
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=90831

    PK 5G vs Redondo 98: by Polaris
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=906086&postcount=34

    Redondo Mid vs A-K90 & US-K90 by Leonardtay
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2010006&postcount=2051

    Redondo Mid and K Blade Tour by theJuice
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2057416&postcount=2097

    Redondo and Dunlop MAX 200G Pro III by Leonardtay
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2098372&postcount=2175

    Becker B11 Mid vs Redondo 93 vs TF 335 vs C10 Pro by Old Crow
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=188528

    Redondo Mid+ and Fischer Magnetic Speed Pro No 1 (Red-Green one) by martinrousev
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3700970&postcount=310


    FOR THE BRAVE -- REDONDO HACKING

    Making a Super Redondo: (two posts)
    Page 18, #355: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1113290&postcount=355
    Page 18, #356: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1113290&postcount=356

    Replace leather grip with synthetic while maintaining balance:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=1196874&postcount=747

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    REDONDO USER LIST:
    as of Aug 24, 2009
    Confirmed Users:
    anirut
    basil J -- Back Home!
    Brad Smith
    ericwong - MP
    goosala
    iksmols
    jeffreyfranz
    Jesse K
    jj300
    joe
    leigh - MP
    looseswing
    Max8950
    mileslong - MP
    polaris - MP
    rasajadad
    RKS12 - MP
    robkat - MP
    sigep1967
    simplify
    snoflewis - MP
    slitstep - MP
    Squid
    ssjkyle31
    stules - MP
    StevieC
    tennisnerd22 - MP -- Returned home!
    theJuice
    vegasgt3
    zeusmerlin - MP
    topspiner - MP
    movdqa
    chowdhurynaveen
    imadeulook
    jm4121
    shavenstringer - MP
    dnutzunlimited
    wensley
    samster - MP
    bossass
    witit - MP
    pow - MP & Mid
    frekcles - MP
    Final_Match_Point - MP
    vsdtrek - MP
    johnnyg
    MrAWD
    josef - MP
    gocard - MP
    asintu - MP
    ta11geese3
    brandx - MP
    Radical - MP
    bee
    d_techie
    Yambury
    vkartikv
    daddy.dirtsurfer
    DavidGarcia - MP
    matchmaker - MP
    GoochMoney
    destan - MP
    don_nguyen11490
    Kevin T - MP
    leonardtay
    Commando Tennis Shorts - MP
    jasonchu - size unknown
    Junkie74
    dabudabuda
    biciomac - mid & MP
    john_in_the_ARK - MP
    NickJ - MP
    jatnut
    Anton
    ODAC
    Skycat
    Passion4tennis
    Slick - MP
    kiamcai - MP
    wjt_tennis - MP
    SplitSecond - MP
    borislee
    Chase
    fortunecookiesjc
    Double Fault
    zdepth - MP
    xube0001 - MP
    phamster - MP
    GraphiteMachete - Mid & MP
    shanker - MP
    SlapShot
    Marcob
    erafael
    Martingale - MP
    mawashi
    oti
    On Tilt EX - MP
    roundiesee
    therealj
    nwidiyantoro
    Boxofweasels - MP
    tomn
    ir0-ed
    in-side-out
    martinrousev - MP
    MagPro - MP NEW


    Shows/have shown interest:
    redtennis
    jayserinos99 M / MP
    newnuse
    rod b
    MTChong
    atpbook
    Renisis9k
    haerdalis
    hoahuyen
    Replayer
    RacquetDoctor
    AznArtist209
    crash
    ripkirby
    giolp


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    Needing stuff for the Redondo (and other PK stuff)?

    Xube's Contact: xube0001@gmail.com

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    Happy Redonding!
     
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  2. haerdalis

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    I am still eagerly waiting for my Redondo to arrive. In the meantime I am playing with my new PK 5g which has alot of power but is extremely comfortable. I hope I like the redondo as much as some here seems to do.
     
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  3. Polaris

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    No he is not. I have become a faithful Redondian. :D

    Redondian, Red Indian, Hmmm...
     
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  4. max

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    Heck, I'll say this. . . I was pumped up, charged, to see it came with an original leather grip. To me, this has always bespoken a quality frame. I'm looking forward to hitting with one next spring.
     
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  5. mileslong

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    Stil waiting on mine

    im still hitting the demo i got from a friend. has crappy strings in it but im 5-1 since i started using it. waiting on my new one to arrive. :(

    played with some lead in the hoop for the first time last night. put two inch strips at 3 & 9. allowed me to really drive the ball from the baseline but it threw off my serving quite a bit last night. im going to try with one inch strips this weekend.
     
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  6. StevieC

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    #1 Redondo

    I just started playing Redondo. Feel is good , power good just need to get my strokes adjusted to this stick.

    I recently moved from demo-hell , so I'm pretty excited about the Redondo.
     
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  7. The Dampener

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    Redondian???

    I consider myself a Redondonite. Should I post elswhere?
     
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  8. mileslong

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    that would probably be a good idea...
     
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  9. mileslong

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    Anirut

    hey anirut, didnt you say you took your leather grip off and put another non leather one on? why did you do this? does the other one absorb vibration better than a leather grip?
     
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  10. anirut

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    Miles, it was all by accident.

    I unknowingly ordered a size too big ... HAHA ... I usually play 4 1/2 Wilson leather but then when I played the 4 1/2 Redondo, something wasn't right. It was the slight difference in the grip shape.

    Anyway, I removed the leather and use a quite thin, cheap Yonex replacement plus an overgrip. This combo weighted pretty close to the leather itself. Then I add another overgrip, just to cover-up the dirty first-layer overgrip.

    I didn't plan this; but somehow this additional second-layer overgrip somehow made things just right. Nice and soft is a plus from the right size obtained.
     
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  11. The Dampener

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    Sadly, I've never been too good at following advice. But I appreciate your enthusiam nonetheless.

    Stevie, I had a similar experience to yours. It took me a while to dial into the Redondo. Seems to be one of those frames that grows on you. Only wish I'd had my demo for longer.

    And, haerdalis, I'm in your position now. The 5G is my current stick, thanks to the elbow, but the Redondo suits my game better. I'd love to hear how your demo goes. Maybe we can compare notes.

    anirut, I nominate you for official embassador to the TW boards of all things Redondo. Though, basil might give you a run for your money.

    Keep up the good work.

    John,
    Fervent Redonite
    Redondian in training
     
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  12. tennis_nerd22

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    hey anirut, i was going to buy a redondo but i never heard from the person i was supposed to get it from after we agreed on price and everything (i needed pics from him). so i didnt get to try it.

    but im going to try my coach's head PC600 which is probably close to the same, maybe better :)o)... :D lol i dont know if its better, but i'd love to try it.

    so ill never get to try the redondo, however, ill imagine my rds 001 is a redondo when i rip that big forehand up the line... k im done :D
     
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  13. anirut

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    TN22,

    Yes, the PC600 is good but I'm not in the shape to play it. The Redondo is more or less an easier-to-play PC600.
     
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  14. tennis_nerd22

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    ya im thinking of trying the rdx 500 mid because that would probably be a cross between my yonex rds 001 mp and the PC 600 or redondo.

    have you tried the rdx 500 mid?
     
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  15. BreakPoint

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    anirut,

    So your Redondo has a factory 4 1/2 grip? I thought grip sizes larger than 4 3/8 were not available in BKK?

    Also, so if you prefer 4 1/2 grips, why did you say that you "unknowingly" got one size too big? Also, do you now prefer the 4 1/2 grip on the Redondo over a factory 4 3/8 grip on the Redondo? Which size would you get if you were to buy another one?
     
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  16. anirut

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    BP,

    I asked Jonolau to get it from Singapore. I asked him to get 4 1/2 based on my usual Wilson-shape size. The Redondo is not (and probably will never be) available in Thailand.

    I think if I'm going get another Redondo (which may be an MP soon), I'll go with the same 4 1/2 and mod it the way I did as I've already gotten it right and used to it.
     
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  17. newnuse

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    To give a little balance... the Redondo weakness.

    The only thing I don't like about the Redondo is lack of power when you try to kill the ball. It has plenty of power, unlike say the Yonex rackets. You can hit easy winners from all places on the court. But, if you try to really kill the ball, it doesn't deliver. Seems like at a certain racket head speed, the flex limits the amount of power you can deliver to the ball.

    If it was a car, the 0-60 accleration would be good... but it has low top speed... say 100mph instead of 120mph you get with a PS85".

    Guys who like to hit big often might not like this racket.
     
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  18. Renisis9k

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    Grip Size

    I got my Redondo Mid in a 4 1/2 grip size as well. Coming from using Head 4 1/2 there was definitely a difference. I find the redondo grip a bit smaller because of the shape I guess. I may need to try 2 overgrips and see how that goes.

    Renisis9k
     
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  19. mileslong

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    i know what you are saying here. i think also the ball is going faster than you think, due to the big flex i think the ball is shot off without you really feeling the power. all i know is that the guys ive played are all saying i am hitting a heavy ball. its also the most accurate racket i have ever played along with the MW200G.

    when i do try and kill one though i do know the feeling you are talking about, its like the racket will just bend and shoot the ball off the same speed as a lesser swing, i think a lot of that is an illusion however...
     
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  20. snoflewis

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    so...in a nutshell, the redondo mid is an easier version of the PC600 to play with, and has more power than the rdx500 mid?
     
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  21. WhiteSox05CA

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    Has anyone tried the regular ProKennex Heritage Type C racquet? The, if I dare say so, non-redondo edition? How's that compare, that doesn't seem to be as nearly as popular? What's the difference?
    ________
    ZOLOFT CLASSACTION
     
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  22. The Dampener

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    Sox,

    The guy who sold me my 5G tried to steer me away from the Redondo. He liked the original Type C. He felt it had a more classic feel and was a better value for the money. Just one player's opinion. Wish I could offer you more.
     
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  23. bertrevert

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    So what are most players using here - MID (93 sq. in.) or MP (98 sq. in.) as this certainly looks like one very nice racquet to play with?

    ANd could anyone compare/contrast these two sizes in terms of serve, topspin, and return-of-serve?
     
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  24. newnuse

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    Interesting theory. I totally agree, it doesn't feel like you are hitting very hard when you swing all out. The racket is so comfortable, I don't feel the shock you normally expect when killing the ball.

    I'll keep an eye out on the pace of the ball when I kill it. I'm pretty sure it's not as fast my big kill shots with the PS85".

    My normal hard shots are pretty good with good spin (when I choose to spin it).
     
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  25. basil J

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    I agree with the other posters here about the lack of feeling when you try kill the ball. My opponents and practice partners are all telling me I am hitting as hard and as heavy ball as usual, but when I go to really crush a forehand, it never feels like I crush it even though I do. the frame absorbs all of the shock very well...
     
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  26. looseswing

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    I have only hit with the mid two times so far and it was not strung with a nice combo for (bb at 62 lbs) but the two times I hit I agree that there was not as much power when I really went for the crush, so most of the time I felt like the raquet really made rely on control. I just did it with a combo that more suits me and hopefully it will improve.
     
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  27. haveheart

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    Having played with a crisp, stiff racket for years (POG mid), I've become enamoured of the flexible, forgiving RDX 500mid.

    But ... IMO ... like many other posters, the snapping serve is just not there and a bit more free power in the groundstrokes would be useful.

    I demo'ed the DNX10 mid and the serve is great and the power is there but I couldn't hit 50 identical forehands (or BHs) in a row as I can with the RDX (... a little exaggeration, but to make a point). I got the feeling that with the identical swing, I was hitting with less spin?

    I've ordered a Redondo mid demo, but it hasn't come for months! Should I just buy it? Will the racket come from TW faster that way? Anyone with info on the Redondo mid, especially in comparison to DNX10mid and RDX mid would be appreciated.
     
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  28. anirut

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    I wish I could give you a comparison on these ... :(

    Have you played the old-time PK Black Ace? If yes, then, the Redondo's the modern, more forgiving Black Ace.
     
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  29. pNoyr3D

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    Hm.. How long has the Type C Redondo been around? The one in TW..
     
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  30. anirut

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    Do you mean released to public? If that's the case, then it was sometimes around last quarter of 2005.

    But if you mean the TW's demo, then I wouldn't know ...
     
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  31. pNoyr3D

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    Yeah that's what I meant released to the public.. Thanks!
     
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  32. thejuice

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    I just got two Redondo Mids in a trade for two Prince O3 Hybrid Tours. I really want to go and hit right now but the Falcons/Steelers game is too good to miss. :( :D
     
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  33. tennis-skater

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    haha i was just watching plays from that game its nuts i wish i had the live feed
     
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  34. pNoyr3D

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    Hm.. Does anyone know how this racquet compares to the M-Fil 300? I currently own the M-Fil 300 and probably will never have a chance to try this out, so any suggestions?
     
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    comparison

    Has anyone played with the RDS 001 MP, DNX-9, or 03 Tour MP who could possibly compare them to the Redondo? I've narrowed my search down a bit to these.

    It's a bit heavier than the others but the only one that seemed to bother me was the RDS... although moreso in the form of a blister. The other two I felt like I could play all day long with but each lacked a bit of something.
    Serve for the DNX-9 and touch/feel for volley with the '03 Tour.

    Short demo's make this difficult... and unfortunately my local shop doesn't carry PK. Any comments (or even some speculation ;) ) would be great.
     
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  36. mileslong

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    im a big dunlop fan and i have hit with both. two different rackets imo. the MFil300 is stiffer and is more head heavy than the redondo. you can mod up the 300 to make it play pretty well and i like the fact it has the open string pattern but its not as accurate as the redondo and doesnt feel as good to me do to the great flex of the redondo.

    i would compare something like the dnx10 MP or the prestige FXP MP to the redondo before the MFil300.
     
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  37. pNoyr3D

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    Well miles before I used to play with racquets like the Head Ti.S1 racquets oversized and recently (5 months ago) I have started playing with the M-Fil 300 and I love it, I haven't played with any other racquet since, so yeah I can't really compare it to anything else.
     
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  38. mileslong

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    i play the MFil 200 and i do like the 300. i think its an excellent racket and would highly recommend it to anyone who plays a racket in that weight class.
     
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  39. haveheart

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    No, if and when TW ever gets around to sending me the demo, the redondo will be the first PK racquet I will have tried.
     
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  40. redtennis55

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    Hi I have a redondo mid and like the feel, but I want to get it weighted like my old ncode 90. Do you guys have any tips on how to do so?
     
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  41. anirut

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    Hi Redtennis55,

    IMO, the Redondo and NC90 are already pretty close in weight. What you actually want more from the Redondo is the Swing Weight.

    OK, MY setup -- that means something that suits me and may not suit everyone -- is as follows (Copied and edited from the Unleaded Redondo thread) :

    I added two pieces of 0.75 gram lead at 7.5 cm from the tip of the racket head -- that makes only 1.5 grams total -- on the innerhoop. Then I added a clean overgrip (over the existing, dirty one), and that's around 7.3 grams.

    On the Redondo, this distance of 7.5 cm is the third cross string from the top.

    The distance mentioned is not just where the lead pieces are placed. It is the point where the approximated center of mass of a lead piece should be at. And since I don't use lead tape, my lead piece is rather small, such that the mass of the lead is more or less concentrated at a very small area.

    NOTE: my grip was previously modified using one synthetic grip and one over grip to match the weight of the leather. My racket should weight a total of about 362 grams, 11 pts HL.

    The SW came up to 325 (calculated when I got home) and it played beautifully. I could feel "the pendulum effect" and yet so easy to rip the ball.

    OK, RT, I hope this helps. Cheers!
     
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  42. Skycat

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    Anirut,

    I wish I could demo the Redondo with all these posts saying how good the stick plays and stuff.
    But unfortunately no local shops in my town carry the Redondo right now.:(

    I've been playing with the PC600 for several years and I've been happy with the stick. But as I'm getting older I feel like a little more pop and power would be very nice.

    I've demo'ed the O3 White, the PD and the APD, but I didn't like them at all!! Too much power and no feel. I even get some pain in my wrist with the Babolats.

    So I'm thinking about the O3 HT, but I think it won't be too much different than the O3 White.

    Okay, then.. Would the Redondo be my choice?
    If so.. Would you order the Redondos from TW even without demoing if you were a happy PC600 user who needs a little more power and spin?
    And which head size would be better? the mid or the mid+?

    Help me!;)
     
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  43. BreakPoint

    BreakPoint Bionic Poster

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    pNoyr3D,

    If you love the M-Fil 300 and you played with the Head Ti.S1 OS up until recently, I seriously do not think the Redondo is for you. In fact, I would stay clear of it and look elsewhere. Just completely different animals, and you would likely be very disappointed with the Redondo.
     
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  44. anirut

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    Hi Skycat,

    With regard to the O3HT, "thejuice" -- one of our board members -- has tried it. The result? He stuck with the Redondo. Of course, to each his own. You may like the O3HT.

    You know, the funny thing is I, being in Thailand, have no access whatsoever to racket demos. I just have to buy it right away.

    The best part is the Redondo is not even available in Thailand. I'd asked Jonolau to get the MidSize from S'pore. So, it was bought blind and deft, without even the chance to hold it.

    Lucky for me, I like it.

    The Redondo does not feel like the heft & balance of the PC600 but it swings nicely and can keep ball in control easily. In stock form, you can try stringing it the high 50's just to get the feel. For me it's at 61.5 lbs. as my racket's hefted up to around 362 grams and 11 pts HL. Even then, it plays easy.

    Hope this helps. Cheers!
     
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  45. jonolau

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    3D, for once I have to agree with BreakPoint! ;)

    He is very right to say that these are totally different racquets altogether. After buying the Redondo for Anirut, I was curious about it and borrowed one from a friend to hit around.

    I must say that the Redondo Mid is an extremely demanding racquet. You must have developed precise strokes and technique to get the best out of it. It suffers no fools and will not give anything away. However, if you are 4.5 and above, you will truly appreciate the benefits of this flexy frame as you can do magic with precision placement a la Sampras.

    In comparison, the M-Fil 300 is a very forgiving racquet that would allow some leeway for fatigue and tired strokes.
     
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  46. DragonFly

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    I know how you feel, I live on guam, and even thoug its a US territory, lots of broadcasting services, like ToonamiJetstream see us as outside of the united states. Not only that, I got no chance at demos outside of fellow players. I do love the redondo, I have one and I play with it every once in a while, but I don't keep it as my main racquet because it's outta my price range to buy more, and I have hard time getting any of them.

    by the way, I used to live in Thailand, for about nine years in Bangkok, in the Sathorne region. Loved the tennis club my dad used to take me to.
     
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  47. anirut

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    DrangonFly, you'd been around a long time! When did you leave for Guam? And, may I ask, what did your dad do when in Thailand?
     
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  48. snoflewis

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    i just had a question regarding the grip shape/size. im aware that it's squarish like wilson's but is the size accurate? i mean, is it like babolat's which is half a size larger or is it true to size? i only ask because from the past, i noticed that a lot of leather grips were thicker than the stock grips.
     
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  49. jayserinos99

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    in my experience with pk frames, the older 5g had the issue of being bigger than what it states on the buttcap but with the redondo mps that i have now, the grips run true to size.
     
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  50. looseswing

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    It feels to me like it runs a tad bit smaller than wilsons, but not very much/something that you won't get accustomed to after a couple of minutes.
     
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