**** #1 Redondo Talks Thread ****

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by anirut, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. The_Racketeer

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    I actually just jumped into this thread to ask about a comparison to the PS85 too.
     
  2. djNEiGht

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    My buddy hit with my R98 for a while and he is a long time PS85 user.

    Softer/Better feel and more forgiving. I don't know how this would compare to the R93 though...
     
  3. The_Racketeer

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    How's the power and spin comparison?
     
  4. Jadom

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    My two new Redondo 98 frames finally made it to my house after being delayed by the winter weather on the east coast. I measured them and was fairly happy that they are pretty consistent with each other. I left the plastic on the handle for my first measurements as I just plan to string one up at first just in case it's not a love story so I can return one if needed. With plastic on the handle, one frame weighed in at 326 grams and 13 points headlight. The other weighed in at 328 grams and 12 points headlight. I took the plastic off the lighter frame and it weighs 324 grams (so i guess that's two grams of plastic on the handle). It still came up at 13 points headlight without the plastic on the handle. Keep in mind this is my home measurement of the balance, but I did come up pretty close to RDC measurements taken at my local tennis shop on another racquet. So I expect this lighter of the two racquets will come up at about 10 points headlight strung with a multi, just like the Tennis Warehouse strung specs say. It's at the stringer now, and I hope to be able to hit with it this weekend. My stringer talked me into 60 lbs as a starting point with Tourna Quasi-Gut Armor 17 gage. He didn't want me wasting a set of natural gut until we dial in my preferred tension. I have no ideas what tension the demo from Tennis Warehouse was strung at, but it had Wilson Sensation in it. The recommended tension range is fairly high on this racquet (55 lbs to 68 lbs), so if TW strung the demo at mid-tension, then maybe it was about 61 or 62 lbs at some point.
     
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  5. movdqa

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    I've used the Redondo Mid, the K-Factor 90 and the KPS88. I used the Redondo for a while, and, like many other users, wanted more power so I bought a K90. I could not keep the ball in the court for the first hour that I hit with the K90. The power levels on the K90 were huge compared to the Redondo. The Redondo Mid, stock, is nice for a flat, precision game. I had a lot of trouble hitting topspin and getting depth and pace with it. This can be fixed with lead tape but I was not considering it with that frame at the time.
     
  6. djNEiGht

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    I don't remember what he said but he was taking some healthy cuts. It seemed that the R98 had more kick on serves and the ball felt heavy on ground strokes when rallying with him

    PS85 had aged syn gut and the R98 had a fresh set of Babolat nVy.
     
  7. ThunderSnap

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    How does the Redondo Mid compare to the IG Prestige Mid?? Which feels more like a PC600??
     
  8. djNEiGht

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    Not direct comparison

    R98 vs iPrestige MP and YT Prestige Pro

    iPrestige tad more power, easier/faster to swing

    YTPP more spin on ground strokes (higher launch angle) and power

    R98 better feel and more spin on kick serves
     
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  9. Jadom

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    Played with my new Rendondo 98 with the Tourna Quasi-Gut Armor 17 at 60 lbs this weekend for 4 hours. By Monday I thought my shoulder and elbow might need to be replaced. Restrung at 50 lbs with Tourna Irradiated 17 string and played doubles for 1.5 hours tonight and my arm and shoulder are much happier! Still sore from the weekend, but eliminated the shock to my arm while serving. Hopefully the pain goes away for good with this looser tension. I was crushing some big flat first serves tonight and even getting a bit more kick on my second serves than usual. By the way, I have been playing natural gut and multis at about 50 lbs for the last three years in my Pro Kennex 7G.
     
  10. anirut

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    I have all those sticks except for the Prince and they are "similar" but "different". Great for control, all-court, fast play, but with different feel and power.
     
  11. donnayblack99

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    IS the Redondo 98 a "true" 98 or is it a 95/96 sq in like the Head Prestiges? Any feedback would be great, thanks in advance!
     
  12. anirut

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    Sorta like Head.
     
  13. Jadom

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    The Redondo 98 looks almost exactly the same size as the Tecnifibre TFight 325 demo I have. And that TFight is classified as a 95 sq.in. frame. I can definitely say that the Redondo 98 looks bigger and is more forgiving than the Volkl Powerbridge Mid which is a 93 sq.in. frame. I have never seen the Redondo Mid, but from reading this thread it seems people find it on the small side for a 93 sq.in. head.
     
  14. grhcan99

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    18x20 at 60? Wow! 50 was the way to go. I string mine in varying tensions from 35-45.
     
  15. Jadom

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    What type of strings do you use?
     
  16. grhcan99

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    17ga poly's (mainly Pro's Pro Black Force, Cyclone Tour). If I have 18's I would use them on crosses. I use poly for my spin game and durability. Low tensions for arm comfort and additional power.
     
  17. Mac33

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    Got my Redondo MP out tonight for the first time in a long time. Strung with Cyclone at 45 ilbs.

    Lost the first set with the Gamma 98Tour 1-6 and then swapped over second set to the Redondo MP and was 5-4 up in the second set when we had to stop.

    Starting to come around again to the unique feel of the Redondo MP.

    Differences i noticed from the Gamma...

    The thinner beam feels like it adds control.

    The biggest difference was that unique thud the Redondo MP gave.

    It kind of feels like a dead thud but a thud all the same!

    I've owned two of these Redondo MP. I kept the one that was a little more head heavy. Around 5-6 pts HL.

    The other one I owned was the same weight but came it at 9-10 pts HL.

    More head heavy gives a lower trajectory and a more satisfying solid feel for sure.

    Also tonight I put a square shaped dampener on-- the one with a cow with big horns as its logo.

    Different dampeners do change the feel slightly.

    Going to add around 10-15g now to my Prince Tour 100 16 by 18. See if I can get the specs identical to this Redondo.

    The more I experiment with tennis frames.....the more I come to the conclusion...

    That heavy is better--- adds power and increases the sweet spot ....that relatively head heavy around 5-6 pts HL is ideal-- more head heavy lowers the trajectory.

    And that stiff frames don't feel good. Thin beams add control.

    So my Redondo MP ticks all boxes.

    I do encourage other Redondo MP users to experiment with using different vibration dampeners.

    And to check the balance point compared to other Redondo users.

    They are not all the same if my experience is anything to go by.

    The Redondo 93 Mid is a terrible frame. Actual size is tiny around 87-88. It has NO power.
     
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  18. Jadom

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    @grhcan99 - How often do you have to restring Volkl Cyclone Tour 17 on your Redondo? How long does it feel good for?

    @Mac33 - Are you using Cyclone or Cyclone Tour?
     
  19. grhcan99

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    It would usually start moving after a total of about 10+ hours of hitting. A bit longer if mostly doubles. I'd wait another maybe 10 more hours then if movement is too much I'd cut. Until the time I cut the strings would still feel good.
     
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  20. Mac33

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    I am using Cyclone not Cyclone Tour.

    Playing an average of 5 hours per week using one frame only-- the string will last me 6 months minimum,but generally closer to 12 months!

    I am not a string breaker.

    I do hit the ball extremely flat though especially on the forehand. Hit at a decent pace.

    I actually dislike using frames strung with new string--- the tension is too tight.

    Owned this frame for around 3 years. Guessing I've played around 50 sets with it.

    String has notched a little in the middle,guessing around 30-35 percent into the string.

    Should last me another 50 or so sets.
     
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