2 forehands?

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  1. need2paint

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    You may already know this but I'll mention it anyway. Rafael Nadal is right-handed. He learned to play tennis left-handed but he's actually a righty.

    So given that he already has a left-handed forehand, why not learn to hit with a right-handed forehand as well? He'd be unstoppable.
     
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  2. Andres

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    Thread discussed to death.
    No need to comment.

    Acasuso is a lefty to plays righty, same as Moya. Why don't they use two backhands?

    Believe me, if we wanted, he will using it by now. If he's not... Heh, there must be a certain reason.
     
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  3. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    I think we only need one ryoma echizen here. Me.
     
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  4. Tezuka Kunimitsu

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    Indeed! Ryoma Echizen is so good! Go Price of Tennis! But on the subject at hand: Switching hands is too costly, in time but would be incredible to watch.

    ~Joe
     
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  5. need2paint

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    I was wondering if anyone ever directly asked him in an interview why he doesn't use 2 forehands.
     
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  6. need2paint

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    Didn't Monica Seles have to switch hands too? I believe she hit two-handed on both sides.
     
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  7. lucky leprechaun

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    No she had same backhand grip both sides. I suspect why nadal's so good on the backhand is because he almost hits it completely with his right hand it seems like.
     
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  8. Aaryn

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    Whoever started this thread is an absolute bunny...Ever thought of how he's going to return serve, volley, or return any aggressive shot ripped at him for that matter?? They're not playing midweek ladies comp where you've enough time between shots to drink a cup of coffee....Call me crazy but i think it's easier returning a 200kmh serve with the same hand at the base of the grip
     
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  10. sandiegotennisboy

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    i saw that girl play in the US open one year and it was weird to watch. first youre like, "wait a minute, is she lefty or righty?" then you realize shes both. id never recommend it. on one of her forehands, either the left or right...i forget....she choked up on the racquet handle so high that the ball pretty much came in loopy all the time with little pace. it was ugly to look at. my friend and i didnt even stay to watch the match cuz it looked like ping pong. she was playing a no-name asian american player with bad skin.
     
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  11. Alexandros

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    If you have no time to change, then you can simply slice the ball. It's not impossible, just that no-one has had success with it. Similar to two handed backhands, which are now the dominant backhands nowadays but unthinkable a few decades ago.
     
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  12. vive le beau jeu !

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    very interesting !
    i'm wondering how she plays at the net... always forehand volleys ?

    do you know other weird things like this ? like a player with 2 backhands (who knows ?!), or 2H forehand + 1H backhand (someone told me he was playing like this but i never saw him !), or switching hands at serve, etc.
     
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  13. Aaryn

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    Alexandros - slices, especially predictable ones (i.e. off every return to that side as u suggest) don't win you matches. Two forehands in professional tennis is a flawed idea from the start, you should begin to realise that
     
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  14. mileslong

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    im also ambidextrous and i will play around with hitting left handed forehands when warming up sometimes just for fun. the only shots i actually use in a match are the volley and desperation shot to my backhand side that has me beat or doesnt allow me enough time to set up. the shot is a winner against most other players but it allows me to stay in the point. that shot has bailed me out numerous times and im quite good at it.

    i will volley at the net using both my right and left hands. my left handed volley works only about 50% of the time however, i always get it back over but i tend to leave it a bit short or hit it right to the other player which they will then put it away on me. its just hard to try and make myself hit with my one handed backhand on the volley. im pretty good from the baseline with both hands though :)
     
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  15. urban

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    I think , we had such a thread before. American Beverley Fleitz-Baker had two forehands, John Bromwich was ambidextrous, served with his left, forehand right, backhand double, in his junior days served with both hands, as if to chop wood. Austrian Hans Redl, had lost an arm in the war, tossed ball with his racket to serve.
     
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  16. dmvprof

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    If I could hit a FH from my BH side w/ 1 hand as well as I hit from my FH side w/ 1 hand, it'd be silly to switch.

    I'd have to change my grip between a BH and a FH, so where is this speed problem?

    Being able to hit FH on both sides plus having all of the other qualities to play at the elite level would be very rare indeed. But if all other things being even, I would like to see someone explain why its a "bad idea from the start".
     
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  17. highsierra

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    How about playing with one racket in each hand? Does the rule prohibit that? The rackets may need to be modified a bit, say, shorter.:mrgreen: I'm laughing as I'm typing up the idea here.
     
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  18. Golden Retriever

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    Actually, I played with two forehands with great success until calluses developed on both of my palms which got in the way when I j........................
    Anyways I had to give up my two forehands. I think thats also why two forehands never worked on tour.
     
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    One question for the rule experts: Is it allowed, to play with two rackets, like a gun-slinger in the Wild West with two colts? The size of the racket was not limited, maybe the number of racket isn't, woo. Bobby Riggs would have liked the idea.
     
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  20. Golden Retriever

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    It is allowed as long as you also serve while holding one racquet on each hand.
     
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  21. HellBunni

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    I remember seeing Santoro use 2 hands for both his backhand and forwardhand (looked like he was hitting backhands on both sides)
     
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  22. Warriorroger

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    Kimiko Date had two forehands.
     
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  23. HellBunni

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    I don't get something, instead of holding the racket with one hand higher than the other, wouldn't it work better if she simply puts one ONTOP/AROUND (like hold it in one hand and have the other softy wrapped around the grip in the same position) of the other and change that way (on the take back for the swing push the handle to the correct hand)?
     
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  24. sandiegotennisboy

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    not when she played. i know she was a lefty who was basically forced to play righty cuz of japanese custom and stuff.
     
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  25. Golden Retriever

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    If God wanted us to play with two forehands, He would have given us two right hands.
     
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  26. sandiegotennisboy

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    whats wrong with lefties. a good one is kicking roger's arse right now with that lefty spin.
     
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  27. Golden Retriever

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    OK, two right hands or two left hands.
     
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  28. mr.fitch

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    I don't know if this is somewhat related but there's a kid that played in New Jersey about 2 years back that had a right-handed serve and left-handed groundstrokes. I wonder why he did that.
     
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