2 x Kneissl Tom's Machines - 4 3/8 grips, cut down to Standard 27", customized with silicone and lead to match perfectly in weight (~12.2oz), balance (6-7 pts HL), 8.5/10 condition. Light scuffs on head guard. I bought these already modified from a fellow board member and have used each frame < 5 hours. I like them much better than the standard 27.5" version but not enough to replace my Fischers. Covers included. Only $85 shipped USPS Priority Mail for both frames (lower 48). Sorry but no International shipping. Not interested in trades at the moment. Contact Kevin T at email@example.com Lot's of positive refs here at TW. Thanks for looking!