2 of same racquet weight/balance inconsistency. Frame or strings?

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  1. Shaggy

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    After going back and forth between the Youtek Radical and the IG Youtek Speed 315 for the past six months, I finally decided that I liked the Speed better and ordered a backup racquet of the same model and year just in case I ever break a string or if I need to get one restrung.

    Since I finally had a backup, I looked at the initial stringing as an opportunity to experiment with a different string setup. I normally have the Speed strung with Wilson NXT Control at 56 pounds. When I got the backup Speed last week, I had it strung with Vokl Cyclone + Wilson Sensation at 54 pounds to see how I'd like a hybrid and also thinking I might get a bit more spin. Played with it for a couple of hours yesterday and haven't made up my mind how I feel about the hybrid string set up yet. FWIW, neither I nor the guy I played noticed any difference in the amount of spin I was getting as compared to the NXT Control setup.

    One thing I did notice, though, is the new Speed with the hybrid string set up feels like it's got a totally different swing weight and balance than my old one.

    Is this likely due to inconsistencies in production? Or do different strings have more of an effect the weight and balance than I would have expected?
     
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  2. Shaggy

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    Further explanation: the new Speed + hybrid feels a lot slower to come around, and it also feels like the balance is moved noticeably more toward the head. I wouldn't call it head heavy, but it feels far less head light than the NXT strung racquet, if that makes any sense.
     
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  3. db10s

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    Quality Control.
     
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  4. Centryx

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    probably the sw is off, should do the numbers to find out
     
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  5. MF878

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    There's a reason why lots of players with multiple sticks spend time matching them. Quality control leaves a lot to be desired...
     
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  6. eleventeenth street

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    it's difficult to know for sure without knowing the specs of either of your speeds. It could definitely be an issue of quality control.

    Also, in my experience, poly is noticeably heavier than multifilaments or synthetic gut and I can definitely feel a difference in swing weight and balance when switching between the two set ups. Even in a hybrid.

    Your issue could be one or the other or a combination of the two
     
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  7. movdqa

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    Always try to use the matching service if possible. If you're buying them at different times, this is obviously a lot harder if you don't have accurate measurements of the first one.

    You might look for a local shop with an RDC machine (or equivalent) to do some customization work for you. There are some folks around here that do mail-order customization too.
     
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  8. prjacobs

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    In reality, it's not only weight and balance that can be off but also flex. If you never want to go through this again you have to buy at a high end store that customizes frames like R.P.N.Y....
    Twenty years ago I loved a demo, ordered the identical frame and it s*cked. I took the demo to R.P.N.Y., (then known as Jay Schweid) and they exactly matched two frames to the demo. Luckily the demo was heavy.... But beyond the weight and balance, the flex was off on two frames we tried.
    I probably paid and extra $40 per frame and used them for over a decade. Well worth it.
     
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  9. Shaggy

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    Thanks all.

    So, it sounds like the first step is to have the "new" speed strung up with the same strings as the "old" speed. If that brings them closer to alignment, then I know that it was the strings.

    If the new one still feels way off, then it's the frame/QC.

    Sounds like I might be hosed as far as matching the two as the old one (which I like the feel of) feels lighter than the new one. Just like life, it's far easier to add weight than it is to lose it.

    If that's the case, how do I get a third one that comes in on the lighter side? Does **** sell racquets, or just do customization of racquets you send to them?
     
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  10. mad dog1

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    i find that getting the right SW specs is the most important. small variances in static weight aren't that important to me as long as SW is close.

    so depending on how much weight you need to lose, you can drop up to 2grams of static weight by punching holes in the bumper guard. this equates to a reduction in swingweight by about 5 pts which is pretty significant.
     
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  11. Fintft

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    I want to congratulate you on your choice of IG Youtek Speed 315 (over the Radical, which to me seems intended for girls).

    Like people are saying SW is the most important one.

    Not sure how to measure it, but first thing I do is to look if:

    a) They are the same HL? (With a pencil through the throat)

    b) Have the same weight (on a letter/kitchen scale)

    GL!
     
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  12. movdqa

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    You could get the measurements of the lighter frame and then ask TW what they have that comes closest to that, preferably a little bit on the lighter side and then send them both off to a customization shop.
     
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  13. TimothyO

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    I once bought two Speed 300s. I matched them for weight, SW, and balance. Had them strung at the same time, same strings.

    They still felt completely different.

    One felt stiff and overly powerful, the other soft and low powered (that was my favorite of the two).

    Frames are partly (mostly really) made by hand. It's art and science. Lots of opportunity for variation in feel.
     
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  14. movdqa

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    Might need to try to match on flex too.
     
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  15. Korso

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    Man if only these rackets would only do what I wanted them to every time, err I mean my swing. :) Just teasing loosen up and you will play well with any wand.... Feel is just a preference.
     
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