2011 Monte Carlo SF: Rafael Nadal [1] vs. Andy Murray [3]

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Nadal vs. Murray

  1. Nadal in 2

    54.0%
  2. Nadal in 3

    16.1%
  3. Murray in 2

    13.8%
  4. Murray in 3

    16.1%
  1. Mustard

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    Well, who wins and in how many sets?
     
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  2. NadalAgassi

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    Nadal easy. LOL at the idea of Murray beating Nadal on clay.
     
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  3. Telepatic

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    If Murray serves well, who knows, maybe a tiebreak again like 2 years ago?
     
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  4. batz

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    C'mon Andy!!!

    Rafa in 2
     
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  5. Destro

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    I think Murray will get past Nadal quite easily. It will help him get rid of furtration of Aussi Final loss and gain the form and the confidence.
     
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  6. Rickenbacker4003

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    Nothing to see here. He couldn't beat Nadal on a low bouncing indoor court in London.
     
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  7. Rickenbacker4003

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    I think you'll go back into your cave until Queens Club after tomorrow.:)
     
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  8. Kunohara

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    Let me pull a Fedace here.

    Murray in 2.

    Of course when Murray loses, I will say I meant something else and that I give him a pass this time, this being Monte Carlo.
     
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  9. vive le beau jeu !

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    c'mon the muzzette... make a haggis out of that damned rodent !!! :twisted:

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  10. MixieP

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    Muurya is back on form but Raphla looks invincible. I think it'll be three sets with the Spaniard going through. But I'm rooting for Murrya. This is a good warm up for him: Wimbledon is the goal. RG will be a bonus and nice to win for him, but Wimbledon is what counts. He might snatch the USO trophy from Supernova, while he's at it.

    Muurya!
     
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  11. Sentinel

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    Of course, I'll back you completely.

    Muurya in 2. or 3.

    edit: I forgot to add: anyone who doesn't vote for Rafa will be declared a Rafa-hater -- that's how our forum works.
     
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  12. Destro

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    You're a bit confused here, aren't you darling?
     
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  13. nadalbestclass

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    I'm gonna go with Rafa, even though I haven't watched Murray play and only bits of Rafa. I just hope the match isn't very long. Cuz I'm thinking rafa-ferrer final. Daveed has an endless supply of energy and can run like no one's business.
     
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  14. statto

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    Nadal in two.
     
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  15. Mainad

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    Rafa in three.

    Muzz has been playing really well but has probably reached his limits on clay for now.Just to have made the semis at MC again for the second time after his dismal showing in North America has been a great step-up for him and a good morale-booster.He will go into the rest of the clay court season with renewed confidence no matter what the outcome tomorrow.

    Rafa is still the undiputed King of Clay and MC is virtually his private fief! Moreover he has just lost two Masters finals in a row to Djoko and he won't be looking to make it a hat-trick in his favourite tournament!

    Just hoping for a good match along the lines of that second set tie-break they played in their first MC semi two years ago!
     
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  16. Murrayfan31

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    Murray in 2. Nadal's game doesn't suit well to Murray's.
     
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  17. PCXL-Fan

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    Murray's on fire and channeling the spirit of Guga with that hair & Nadal will find himself unable to go up a gear in the 2nd set

    Nadal 6-3, 7-5
     
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  18. ark_28

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    Nadal in 2!

    Murray been playing decent but Nadal is a different gravy on Clay, 6-4 6-2 is my prediction.
     
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  19. Semi-Pro

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    Forget hardcourt, Murray has now become a dirt baller. Muzza in 2.
     
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  20. ark_28

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    Yeah that is why Nadal has a 9-4 record against Murray and 2-0 on Clay having never lost a set :rolleyes:
     
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  21. tennis_pro

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    Isn't it something like 4-4 since the 2008 US Open?
     
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  22. rovex

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    I don't think it means a great deal. It's much, much more logical to base it on current form. What is obvious however is that Ralph somehow losing to Muurya will dent his confidence and the Unbeatable GOAT can win the french open.
     
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  23. CMM

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    Rafa hasn't been very impressive this week. If Murray plays very well, I can definitely see him winning.
    Too bad this isn't the final.
     
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  24. nadalbestclass

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    Why do you say that? I haven't seen him play much, but I no one seems to be complaining. Plus he seems content in his pressers. Normally if he's not playing well he will point it out.
     
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  25. ark_28

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    If you include that US Open 2008 match then 4-4 since that match 4-3 Nadal

    But the only match on Clay Nadal won in straight sets.
     
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  26. ark_28

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    Just dont see how any of those stats suggest Nadal is a good match up for Murray he has 4 wins (all on hard) but also 9 loses on all surfaces!
     
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  27. Messarger

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    He does not need to win every match 6-1 6-0 though. Bearing in mind that he is going to play 5 clay court tournaments in 1.5 months, he should do just enough to overcome his immediate opponent, at least until the French. It will be even better if he could win the French playing at 90%.
     
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  28. rovex

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    But like someone pointed out to you that since Murray's breakthrough year Ralph hasn't exactly been getting the wins as previously. That's exactly why that seemingly big 9 number isn't relevent in the grand scheme of things.
     
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    Let's hope tomorrow is less windy. Watching some parts of Melzer-Fed and Nads-Ljubo I started to whistle Ennio Morricone's music. Shoddy tennis.
     
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  30. ark_28

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    Rafa has beaten Murray on all surfaces since the US Open 2008, to me it is clear that its a good match up for him once he plays to his best!

    Murray played out of his skin on a strong surface for him indoors at the O2 probably Rafa's least favourite surface and he still lost.
     
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  31. CMM

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    I didn't say he played bad. Just that he wasn't tested seriously and despite the scores he wasn't impressive.
    The only part of his game that looked great was the forehand.
    I don't know if this will be enough against Murray.
     
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  32. Cesc Fabregas

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    Nadal should have Murray on a string in this match, I think he'll use the dropshot to finish off the point abit.
     
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  33. rovex

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    But contrary to what you believe Ralph has played his best and Murray has had victories. I never said anything about match ups so i don't exactly know why you reiterate it constantly. I'd say Murray played well in london but "out of his skin" is hyperbole to say the least. He was far more clutch in australia 2010.
     
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  34. Tennis sensation

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    Nadal in 2 tight sets
     
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    Rafa is straights.
    Murray needs to go get a haircut.
     
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  36. MichaelNadal

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    I agree, Macho Man Ralph Savage in 2.
     
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  37. Peters

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    It's pointless and simple to keep raising the 9-4 record - look at the results in the second half of their careers, which is a much better indicator of their status when playing eachother. It's very even.

    Despite Murray having a good general record against Nadal over the last couple of years, on clay Rafa really should have too much for Andy.

    But I'll go for Andy, what the hell...
     
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  38. Semi-Pro

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    Andy is preparing himself on the red clay for the green clay come Wimbledon.
     
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  39. TennisFan3

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    Buddy..it's impossible to convince you. Nadal is playing in the best form of his life..he would even beat the F.O 2008 Rafa..right? :rolleyes:

    Fact is, Nadal has not yet acclimatized to clay. I don't know what matches you're watching but his backhand and especially ROS have been sub-par. He's also not taking the initiative and finishing pts at the net. The good old forehand is there, and as usual it's devastating but that ALONE won't likely be enough against someone like Djokovic or a red-hot Delpo (the only 2 players who could potentially beat Nadal on clay).

    Nadal hasn't been tested as yet, and the Murray match will be a good test for him. Murray sucks big time on clay, but he still has that matchup edge with Rafa that makes the Spaniard uncomfortable, as we could see from the MC 2009 SF match that was pretty tight.

    If Nadal is not sharp enough and doesn't raise his level, the match might go to 3 sets. If Rafa plays like his self, the match could be over in 2, but with one tight set. Either way this is easily a bigger test for Nadal than a potential Ferrer/Melzer final.

    Interestingly, Murray said in his post match that he beat Nadal in the practice match they played, and believes that he can pull of the upset if he plays his A game. So you can't fault him for his attitude.

    All in all a very tasty SF, can't wait..
     
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  40. rovex

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    CMM said they ended it 5-5, so not really played a match....
     
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  41. josh91

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    Rafa will win easily in 2

    6-3 6-2
     
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  42. DCaicedo

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    Andy needs a trim.

    El Toro in 2.
     
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  43. wy2sl0

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    Murray in three. Hitting really flat through the court, and has been successful doing so this week - great to see.
     
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  44. Outbeyond

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    I think the opposite: Rafa in 3. Murray's doing well in this tournament and has knowledge of Rafa's game in his corner. But clay is Rafa's muse.:)
     
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  45. Magnus

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    I believe these two had a pretty competitive match at MC two years ago. First set was one sided, but Murray woke up in the 2nd and nearly won it. If he can play like that consistently he has a chance. Nothing's impossible. Plus, Rafa wasn't playing that great against Ljubicic. The later just played the worst match of his career by far.

    Still, this is one slow clay court, so Rafa in two. 6-2 6-4.
     
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  47. Big_Dangerous

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    I think you're the one confused if you actually believe that Murray has a chance to beat Nadal on clay.... Then you have the retarded audacity to pick him in straights.... Lol gtfo my forum.
     
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    I just intercepted an encrypted communication between 2 posters. It went: anyone who votes for Murray is a bitter ******* rooting against Nadal. Anyone voting for Nadal is a bitter ******* who hates Đoković for beating Federer in the AO semi.

    So anyway, i think Rafa will win in 2, but i voted Murray in 3 since I hate both :D
     
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  49. SikSerb

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    This should be a good one. Surprised that Murray has made it to the final. Definitely a great comeback for the guy especially on clay, though I dont see him taking take set from Nadal.
     
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    Rafa will school that child Andrew Murray.
     
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