2012 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals: Jo-Wilfried Tsonga v Tomas Berdych

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Berdych v Tsonga

  1. Tsonga in 2

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  2. Tsonga in 3

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  3. Berdych in 2

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  4. Berdych in 3

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  1. MSK

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    Not sure what I think about this one, Probably going with Berdych in 2 or 3.

    What do you guys think?
     
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  2. Lavs

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    that's tough one.
    match which will decide who gonna pack his bag earlier...
    would rate Jo chances a tad higher.
     
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  3. kishnabe

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    Seriously don't know.

    Berdych leads h2h 4-2. The last time they played Berdych won in 3 sets in the Stockholm final.

    Though Tsonga beat Berdych in the Semfininals at the WTF in 3 sets.

    Though Tsonga was in imperious form that year only losing to Federer twice by 3 sets. Even beat Nadal in 3, and destroyed Fish in 2.

    For the form both are in....I rather see Berdych step forward...Tsonga just seemed flat in Paris and yesterday.
     
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  4. cc0509

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    Berdych in three.
     
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  5. Gonzo_style

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    Berdych beat Tsonga in last two matches, played better yesterday, seems like he's in better shape than French, Berdych in 2
     
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  6. nevisben

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    Depends on which Tsonga plays. I'm going for Berd.
     
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  7. movdqa

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    Depends on who is having a better day mentally. These guys are so close together. I'll give Berdych the benefit of the doubt because I prefer his game but it's a slight edge in my mind.
     
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  8. Towser83

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    The Berd in 2
     
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  9. PeteD

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  10. Terenigma

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    Berdych in 2 easy sets
     
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  11. veroniquem

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    Berd for sure. Tsonga is in lousy shape.
     
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  12. Mainad

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    If Berdych beats Tsonga in straights,(as is likely), he will move ahead of Murray in Group A as he will have won a match without dropping a set unlike Murray.
     
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  13. Mainad

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    Delete post.
     
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  14. Bloodshed

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    Wow very tough one but I'm gonna stick with Big Jo Stronga in 3 sets
     
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  15. TheF1Bob

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    What is Berdych playing at? Just break him already you clown.
     
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  16. veroniquem

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    Won't Djoko be qualified tonight if Tsonga wins? That's what the commentators said.
     
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  17. Rozroz

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    what would make things more interesting?
    Jo or Berdych winning?
     
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  18. Ico

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    Tsonga isn't hitting his shots and he's still the same mental snowflake. First set to Berdych.
     
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  19. veroniquem

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    Tsonga may not win a set at this event.
     
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  20. tennis_pro

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    Berdych. Tsonga ain't beating Murray in this kind of form, not a chance. Berdych if he wins this (and he probably will) still has a chance to qualify if he beats Djokovic. In this scenario we could have Berdych, Djokovic and Murray all with a 2-1 win-loss ratio, this could be very interesting.

    Having said that, Berdych won't beat Djokovic and Tsonga won't beat Murray. You can book it.
     
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  21. kishnabe

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    Yeah....but Djokovic gonna qualify for the Semi anyways. He can not possibly lose to Berdych.
     
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  22. Towser83

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    Hopefully not.

    What I worked out id if Berych wins in straights tonight and Djokovic beats Berdych in straights, Berdych will be 3-4 in sets and 1 win 2 losses. Then if Murray takes a set off Tsonga but still loses he'll also be 1 win 2 losses with a 4-5 set win/loss. Tsonga will have 1 win 2 losses with a 2-5 and so thus out.

    So who would progress out of Berdych with 3-4 or Murray with 4-5? I'm guessing Murray, in which case Murray might not even need to win against Tsonga to progress.
     
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  23. Shangri La

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    Wish they put Djokovic/Murray and yesterday's Fed game in night session so I can watch from work...
     
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  24. tennisaddict

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    Lesser sets lost is Berdych, shouldnt he qualify.
     
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  25. Towser83

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    oh i thought it was more won. Too confusing haha
     
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  26. Ico

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    Electric from Tsonga. He takes the second set but he's really living on the edge here. I hope he keeps up the form.
     
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  27. underground

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    OR if Berdych wins today, loses to Djokovic, Tsonga beats Murray. Then we'll have Djokovic leading 3-0, then all the others with 1-2....
     
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  28. kishnabe

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    LOL Tsonga.
     
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  29. veroniquem

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    Seriously, RR gives me a headache. Too complicated for me to even bother. All I know is that players in this group will want to qualify as the #1 in order to avoid Fed in the semi.
     
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  30. Ico

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    Tsonga is the Li Na of the ATP.
     
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  31. romeo8880

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    It's hilarious how much better Tsonga is than Berdych, yet he is gonna lose AGAIN.
     
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  32. Ico

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    Tsonga is only the better player when he keeps calm. He's so mentally weak today.
     
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  33. Ico

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    No tsemi-finals for Tsonga. The glass cannon loses the third set 6-1.

    Actually, if Tsonga beats Murray in straights and Djoker beats Berdych in straights, there's still a chance.
     
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  34. WeeDiM

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    I was hoping to see some of that great, crazy, creative, powerful Tsonga, but unfortunately he was absent tonight.
     
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  35. fluffyyelloballz

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    OOOh Tommy! Nice third set.
     
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  36. vive le beau jeu !

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    that's what i'm hoping for... but tsonga doesn't look very good at the moment. :-?
     
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  37. Terenigma

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    Ahh been away but im back now, whats the score? has tsonga lost already?

    Never mind, i see he lost and is now out, so murray will be playing a tsonga that has nothing to play for? i dunno if thats good for murray or bad...
     
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