2012 BLX Pro Open...?

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  1. The Baseline

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    Its way better. It serves better and feels stiffer thus more control. To me the Wilson BLX Pro Open is the most underrated racquet in recent memory.
     
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  2. TimothyO

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    No issues. And my arm is sensitive. However, it was just a couple of sessions. Over long use, no idea.
     
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    They need to make an extended one!
     
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  4. TimothyO

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    After watching my wife and 10 year old hit with the Pro Open 2012 last night I have a new found respect for Wilson.

    My son has VERY limited formal tennis training but loves to hit. He is so freakin consistent with this thing it's scary. He can sustain rallies in casual back and forth hitting as well as, or better than, low level adults. If you put the ball anywhere near him at a reasonable level for his height it's coming back with pace and depth, fore or backhand. But he can even get back shots stretching and on the run. It's very stable in such situations.

    My wife used the demo in a doubles playoff match today and won handily (we dried the court this morning...an epic effort to avoid having her play during the week). Very few unforced errors on her part. She's no racketholic and will play with anything. She's also very frugal but even she absolutely wants to buy a Pro Open...immediately. She's very consistent but precision placement has never been a strength for her. She needs a big target. With the Pro Open she's nearly as precise as I am. And she says the feeling is effortless.

    Now, against heavy balls, it does get pushed around a bit. For grins I fired off some heavy topspin cannonballs at her and the frame was deflected by the impact. While AMAZINGLY stable against the shots she sees in 3.0/3.5/B-level ladies and mixed doubles I'm not sure the 11.1 oz is enough for something like mens 3.5/4.0 singles. Nothing some lead in the handle and a heavier grip couldn't fix.

    We're definitely buying two this week for my wife and son. This is the most impressive frame I've ever seen off the shelf for this level of play.
     
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  5. getsby

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    TimothyO, you can compare the new (2012) Pro Open with the previous version?
    For me, it does not matter a slight difference between these two versions of the weight, but the two extra stiffness points give reason to think
     
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    Interesting thread and comments about under appreciated frames. I have been playing sparingly all winter as I have hit the slopes hard 9 (50 days) but in Jan I picked up a used BLX Blade 98 (2011 version I believe), it's got crappy old Poly in it (from before I bot it) and I still love how this racket plays when I do play, simply solid all around, great control and feel on groundies and volleys, solid serve and good return. I'll be interested to see how it plays when I get my stringer fixed and can get a better sting job in there.

    Drak
     
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  7. Readers

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    A side question, how many frame as you gone though after the Becker? :twisted:
     
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  8. ptb5021

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    Just gotta add my comment:
    Serving is a dream with the BLX Pro Open
     
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  9. Federerkblade

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    Tim hi,

    how is your son and wife getting on with the blx pro open 2012 version.

    did you do any modifications ?

    did you receive the racquets similar in weight balance or were they off.

    Im looking at this racquet as the pure drive is too harsh on my elbow with a poly


     
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  10. BC1

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    The pro open is a great option. It has a more solid feel then the pd and is imo the perfect stifness. Though it is definitely not a flexy racquet it seems arm friendly. I have older poly in mine and I've been hitting with it for a few weeks with no problems at all. Getting it restrung soon though. I switch back and forth between it and the pd2012.
     
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  11. Federerkblade

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    great as iv just ordered a matched pair grip 2 with tour bite 50lbs and power poly and power synthetic 47/48lbs
     
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  12. BC1

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    Nice. Good set-ups. Should be comfy and powerful at those tensions.
     
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  13. JackB1

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    Got to disagree a bit here BC. I think the PD12 feels more solid to me than the Pro Open. The Open feels more flimsy to me, where the PD12 feels more stable. I agree with the rest though and it is a great stick. Its a racquet that any 3.5-4.0 could use with no problem.
     
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  14. Federerkblade

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    hmm im a 4.5 ... im sure some lead could sort out any flimsyness , as long as my arm doesnt hurt im happy
     
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  15. BC1

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    Jack, maybe we're not in total dissagrement. I guess it all depends on how you define "solid". The pd is more stable and feels like it has more mass behind the ball, and it is better on off center hits. So yes that is a form of "solid" and I agree with Jack, the PD wins here. But I was referring to the other aspect of "solid", to me the pro open feels less hollow and has more "feel", not as muted, and has a more solid sound when hitting. To me it doesn't have that hollow feeling or sound that I sometimes get with the pd.
     
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  16. Federerkblade

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    Hi BC1

    where and how much lead tape would you put on the pro open to solve what you have described

     
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  17. BC1

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    I don't think you will find it "flimsy", but yes, if you are hitting against 4.5s some lead may be necessary.
     
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  18. JackB1

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    OK we agree then :)

    I never really get that "hollow" feeling from my PD12.
     
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  19. BC1

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    I will see what I can do.
    Maybe he will agree to it if you agree to drop the "clown" reference :). lol.

    The "hollow" feeling has a lot to do with the string set-up. Do you use a dampner? just curious.
     
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  20. BC1

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    I'm no lead expert, others here are, and I never had the need to lead up the pro open. But, I think a little at 3 and 9 should do the trick, IF you find you need it. They always say start with a little (2 grams) on each side, and go up in small increments as needed.
     
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  21. JackB1

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    Yes I always use a dampener...usually the Sampras O.
    I hate that pingy sound you get without one.
     
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  22. JackB1

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    BC you really should try one of the new Donnay sticks with the Xenecore. The frames are literally solid and filled with some kind of material and you don't get a hint of hollow-ness. The Pro One 97 or the Formula 100 both have it. I prefer the Pro One myself.
     
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  23. BC1

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    I've been eyeing them. But I got so many racquets I'm still considering it's beyond ridiculous already. Downright silly. For the past month I've been way out of control with the racquet thing, and my game is starting to suffer I've been switching and demoing so much. I'm going to force myself to put a stop to it. Maybe today. I got two matches (for fun) set-up later this afternoon, and got 5 sticks in the bag. Right now I'm still falling back on the pd and pro open and I have a feeling the pd is going to be it. I most likely will just start tweaking it with different string set-ups. However, I've learned to never say never, especially when it comes to racquets. I would love to get my hands on one of the Donnays. The formula one seems a little more what I'm leaning towards spec wise. The pro one might be slightly higher then what I want static weight and in sw.

    If I were to pic my perfect specs I think I've narrowed it down to: Static Weight 11.2-11.5 loaded (strung with overgrip and dampner), SW 315-320, 3-4 pts hl, and a beam between 22mm-24mm. Flex of 66-70. Any suggestions?

    Actually 4-5 pts hl (with overgrip), and 16x19 string pattern.
     
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  24. JackB1

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    those are almost EXACTLY my preferred specs as well :)
     
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  25. BC1

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    Yes, I think 75% of the population could probably do well with those specs, at least those in 3.5-4.5 level. That is sort of the reason I made an attempt to start that new thread I did today. Which was probably not necessary. Oh well, too late to retract it now.

    So, with those being your specs, I have to ask. Is the pd still your choice, or are you shifting to the pro one?
     
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  26. Federerkblade

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    Quick question i agree with timothy, will lead in the handle sort this or on the throat as i feel its the throat that lacks weight???or at 9 and 3

    Now, against heavy balls, it does get pushed around a bit. For grins I fired off some heavy topspin cannonballs at her and the frame was deflected by the impact. While AMAZINGLY stable against the shots she sees in 3.0/3.5/B-level ladies and mixed doubles I'm not sure the 11.1 oz is enough for something like mens 3.5/4.0 singles. Nothing some lead in the handle and a heavier grip couldn't fix.
     
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  27. Federerkblade

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    it is slightly flimsy againts 4.5 plus and harder hit balls. interestingly stringers world review recommended lead on thr throat but im confused
     
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  28. BC1

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    Lead on the throat should give it more "plow through" and will increase thd mass/weight of the racquet without altering the balance.
     
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  29. Federerkblade

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    guessing it should also make it slightly less flimsy against the 4.5 players , anyone 3.5 and below i dont think it needs customizing.

    How much lead should i put inside the throat. i was going to start with 2 inches on either side which is 1g or is that not enough.?

    the racquet seems to flex on backhands and fast serves and twist slightly.

    overall an amazing racquet
     
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  30. JackB1

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    Probably shifting to the Pro One.
     
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  31. BC1

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    Very good. Haven't tried it yet. I personally am at the point where I am about to ditch this whole new racquet idea and just go back to the pd. I have tried numerous racquets over the past two months and even though at times one seems to shine over the other, when it comes tight down to it the pd, pro open, and possibly even the apd (your typical power tweeners) seem the best for me. I really wanted to get out of this class, and I know I can play with anything almost as well, but looking at immediate results and gratification I think the pd2012 is going to remain my main stick (for now). I will probably sell a couple of the others buy another pd and just start focusing on my string setups and my game.

    The main reason I think I am going with the pd over the others is serve. For me, there is no better serving racquet and I enjoy the free point and easy service games that I get with the pd. It makes a huge difference in the match outcome and in my confidence level. The po and apd are very close though in all other areas and I prefer some of their qualities over the pd. I could probably be just as happy with either. Trying the pd again today in a tough match. I will know more later.
     
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  32. Federerkblade

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    BC1 . I have both now and i dont know why but it seems the sweetspot is bigger on the pd but it may because i have it strung it tour bite 1.30 full bed at 50lbs.

    Do you feel the same or am i being silly

    I think the pro open is a great serving stick

    any ideas what i can cross the tour bite with to open the sweetspot with and what tension
     
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  33. JackB1

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    Actually I think I may be with you in just staying with the PD12 and experimenting with lead and string setups. I played with it again today and
    it really does a good job of keeping me in the point. It does everything pretty well and the rest is on me. I can use the Pro One about equally as well, but there is no point in switching other than to switch. I started to get some stability and consistency with the PD and there is no need to start that whole process over again with the Pro One. So I will be sticking with the PD12 for now and will try adding a little more leadtape to it. I do enjoy the extra plowthru of the Pro One or the Rad Pro, but it does up the difficulty a little.
     
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  34. BobStar

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    JackB1: just curious, which rackets did u own the last 2 years?
     
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  35. BC1

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    Played with the pd today. Played poorly at first. No control everything was slightly off. Shots going long, was down 2-5. Switched to the apd and ended up winning 7-5. Cant credit the racquet switch for the whole turnaround as my opponent started getting frustrated and making errors that he wasn't doing to start, but the biggest difference was I started being way more consistent with the apd. I think it is more due to the strings. I have older alu power in the apd that is probably at a higher tension then my gut poly hyprid in the pd. I am definitely getting the trampoline feel and results from the pd. A new string job is needed. I may just continue to play with the apd. Not getting the power ii get from the pd, but the control and unforced errors is way better. Once again, probably due to setup.
     
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  36. Dgdavid

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    What's keeping you from the Pro Open BC?
     
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  37. YesTennis

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    While on the topic of Wilson twiners(Pro Open), just wondering if anyone has played with the Wilson Juice? If so, could you compare it to the Pro Open, Pure Drive, or APD?
     
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  38. gamerx52986

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    I actually bit the bullet and purchased a pair of the 2012 Pro Opens. I had took the old model out for a demo and enjoyed it but at the time I still had it in my mind to stick with a forgiving lighter players frame ( Radical /Rebel 98). Finally came to the realization that I needed easier power as if I was playing well, I did fine with the other frames but if I was off by even a slight bit I couldnt get anything going. Tried quite a few tweeners but the Pro Open won out. Sure the new Pure Drive has more power and probably serves a little better for me but the Open feels more comfortable and has more control in my opinion of course. Still have noticed a benefit on my serve as I was getting alot of free points on my serve. Got my Opens strung with my usual NRG2 so I cannot wait for them to arrive.
     
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  39. BC1

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    Nothing besides the fact that I can't seem to get Babolat out of my system. They have brainwashed me, or maybe they put some chemical in their grips that get into your system whcih causes you to stay with their racquets forever.

    Serioulsy, the Pro Open is a great racquet, and pretty much does everything as well as the apd or pd. And as gamerx just stated, you have more control and comfort. I just can't let the babolats go, and have been playing very well with the APD over the last three days. It is crazy, and I shouldn't even be admitting it, but if the Pro Open had one of Babolats great Paint Jobs on it (like the pd or apd), and had Babolat name on it, I probably wouldn't be hesitating. And it would probably be one of the best selling racquets on the market. That said, the APD for some reason is a little more fun to play with and I've been a little more consistent. I also like the additional swing weight (most of the time).


    On a side note: The Dunlop Bios are $30 off right now. Which means the Dunlop Bio 500 Tour is only $149. Very tempting.
     
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  40. JackB1

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    Hey BC, can you do a little comparison of the PD12 to the APD for me?
    I have never tried the APD because I hate that yellow paintjob, but the French Open model looks real purty :)
     
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    Such progress, only 2 years back JackB swore off stiff racquets like the APD because of elbow pain..lol
     
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  42. Dgdavid

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    Going full circle BC. My main racket for ages was the AeroPro Drive GT. Was happy with it but made my shoulder sore - not anything biomechanical, just aches. Tried a friends IG Extreme back then and although it wasnt the one for me, it started off my curiosity elsewhere. Nice racket though the APD.
     
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  43. Federerkblade

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    to my pro opens blx 2012. i have added 4g of lead total at 3 and 9

    and added 3.5g to the handle 10cm from the bottom.

    They are roughly 5 points head light and weigh 333g and 336.5g respectively. This includes one overwrap on a grip2's.

    I hope they will play more solid like a pure drive now without the arm issues. the pro open seems like a great racquet until you face the 4.0 plus and better . Im hoping the lead will make it stable against these players
     
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  44. JackB1

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    Why is that funny? I had elbow issues 2 years ago and got rid of them completely. What exactly is your point?. Why are you busting my chops lately?
     
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  45. Xonemains

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    Jack, he's just trying to get into your head. that is what tennis players do.

    tennis is a mental game, i guess it gets pretty mental in here sometimes as well.:)
     
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  46. frinton

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    Which currently available stick could replace the nPro? Did you compare the pro open with your nPro?
     
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    I am now a proud member of the BLX Pro Open Owners Society...just ordered 3 of these amazing racquets. I've demoed probably 20 racquets over the last 3 months and this is by far the best overall racquet I've tried.

    Funny thing is, I wasn't even going to demo this racquet. I just threw it in with the Pure Drive 12, Pure Drive GT, and Bio 500 Tour just so I would have 4.

    Looking forward to playing with this solid, spin friendly, perfect power, amazing control, great touch, stable racquet for a long time.

    TripleB
     
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  48. JackB1

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    Its a very serviceable racquet. I agree with all your descriptions, except "stable". It doesn't feel as "solid" to me as some other similar racquets, but that's me.
     
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  49. TripleB

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    Maybe it's the racquets I've been trying (500 Tour, 400 Tour, Organix 8, RDiS 200 Lite, Tecnifibre 300, Pure Drive GT), but compared to everything else I've tried in that weight range, it seems extremely stable.

    The demo came in at 317 grams and 5 points headlight...so that's the specs I gave for the MRT to make all three of my racquets (strung).

    To me it seems I get everything from it that I've been getting out of my Dunlop AG 4D 300 (touch, amazing control, spin) PLUS better maneuverability, bigger serves/grounstrokes, even better control, and the ability to hit with heavy spin or flatten it out with ease.

    I've been searching for this racquet for a loooooooooooooooong time!!!

    TripleB
     
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  50. veloduffer

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    I bought the Pro Open on a whim and like it. It was pre-strung (I don't know what with or tension) and has good control, serving power and can impart lots of spin. It does lack some stability on off-center hits against a heavy hitter. I generally use this racquet when playing against 3.0-4.0 players, where the light weight is less of an issue and work on my touch shots.

    When I play against harder hitters and lessons with my pro, my usual racquets are the BLX Six One 95 18x20 and 16x18, which are very stable. I have a fast, long swing and hit with lots of topspin on both sides (2BH) and like the stability from the Six One - I don't need high power racquets. I can put a bit more spin with the Pro Open but I am experimenting with strings in my Six Ones (tried RPM Blast and NXT 17, both at 57 lbs). The strings are about to break on the NXT so I will try the Solinco Tour Bite to get a bit more spin.
     

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