2012 Luxilon Playtest

Discussion in 'Strings' started by TW Staff, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. radigan

    radigan Rookie

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    I strung my Volkl Organix 8 as a full set. I have not had problems in the past and did not encounter any during this playtest. I usually use a multi (Technifibre X Code strung at 57) and decided to drop this tension down to 51

    Overall impression of the power of the string was mediocre. Nothing special negative or positive.

    The feel of the string was less than I was used to. I think I get more feel from X Code but this is to be expected.

    I hit a flat ball so spin is hard to judge. I have found that if you don't have the stroke to produce more spin, no string is going to help. I did find the slice backhand to be wicked. It really bit and stayed low. More so than usual.

    Comfort was not an issue. No pain or excess vibration noticed.

    Durability was not an issue but I am not a string breaker.

    Tension loss was not profound but I did notice a slight amount. I do not have an accurate way to measure this so I am unable to state exactly how much loss.

    I had trouble keeping the ball in play for some reason. Maybe I had an off night or two. Not sure on that. But like I said before, the slice backhand was great.

    This was comparable to RPM Blast which I have used. I found it to be much more wire like. During stringing, I had it bending and keeping the bend like wire would, and not an easy string to work with. It actually took longer to string these than normally. After hitting with this string for 2 weeks, I would probably experiment with a little higher tension. I found myself looking for more control.

    Overall, if you are one of those that can hit enough topspin to distort the shape of the tennis ball into an ellipse with your topspin, I would give this string a try. I can see durability being a plus. For me with my flat strokes, it did not accent my game positively.
     
  2. NetMuncher

    NetMuncher New User

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    Whether or not you used a full set or hybrid for the playtest
    The string was used as a cross in a hybrid configuration. This Luxilon was paired with Klip Legend, in the mains.


    Tension used for playtest
    53/50


    Your regular string set up
    Klip gut/Kirschbaum Pro Line II


    Racquet brand and model used for test
    HEAD YOUTEK IG Prestige Mid


    Power level of test string or hybrid
    The Lux is fairly low powered which I personally like.


    Feel (crisp? mushy? soft? stiff? off center feedback?)
    The string has a typical muted feel found in most polys. The overall feel was quite nice. I didn’t feel any harsh feedback on any off center shots.


    Spin
    I experienced a little more controllable spin with these strings – nothing too extreme but able to generate extra spin without much additional effort.


    Comfort
    This is one of the areas where this string actually shined in my opinion. The Lux hybrid was quite comfortable. I’ll probably try it in the mains in my next setup.


    Durability
    I only have 6 sets of match play in this setup but things seem to be holding up quite well. The tension hasn’t dropped appreciably at this point. And the Lux crosses have not started to saw through the gut mains.


    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable?)
    As mentioned above I have yet to notice any drastic change in tension after about 7 hours of use.


    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    This is the other area where this setup came through. I experienced great control on all shots.
    Ground strokes off both wings were predictable. I was able to keep topspin ground strokes deep and my slice backhands had a little extra bite.
    I was able to move my serves around quite well with some additional spin and bite.
    Not to sound too redundant but my volleys and half-volleys had some extra bite and touch.


    Compare to the string you use most often
    This setup completely outclassed by normal setup in every category; feel, control, comfort…


    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension?)
    Haven’t had enough time with the string to really make an honest opinion here. After 7 hours it seems to be okay.

    I probably wouldn’t change the tension. However, I would like to try the Lux in the mains and gut in the crosses in my next setup.


    General comments (please summarize likes and dislikes)
    One of the best poly’s that I’ve tried thus far. To be honest I really haven’t tried that many poly’s, probably about a dozen. Once I find a string, I tend to stick with it.

    I liked the overall feel with this string. It was quite comfortable with great control and spin potential.

    I really don’t have any dislikes. If anything, I hope that it will be available in a slightly smaller gauge.
     
  3. gtshark1

    gtshark1 Rookie

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    Full set or hybrid Hybrid with Gosen Micro Sheep 17(Cross)

    Tension used for playtest Main Luxilon-56/Cross Gosen-59

    Regular string set upPrince Beast XP with Gosen Micro Sheep

    Racquet brand and model used for test Prince EXO3 Tour 16X18

    Power of test string At the begining of the test power felt low to average. I was hitting most balls with a normal rallying stroke. Medium paced with 4.0-4.5 level spin. However, when I decided to hit a little flatter and with some more muscle the string really came alive. I started taking some spin off and hitting a low flat ball that had some nice pace. The string performed awesome in this area and was an early highlight.

    Feel Another plus for me. Felt as good as my Beast hybrid and better than some other polys I have tried recently. Medium stiffness feel. No complaints whatsoever. All the shots I hit felt good. Some of my favorites as far as feel include top spin forehands and backhands. Again- one of the strengths to the string.

    Spin Spin was average and I felt a bit dissapointed. No fault of the string but I have been looking for something that provides more spin to my regular shots. This string didnt do it for me but that doesnt mean the string was bad. In fact I'd say it was quite average but on the better side when it came to slice. Adequat would be a good word to describe its spin potential for me.

    Comfort Felt much better than many other polys I have tried. Comfort isnt really an issue for me but I can say this one ranked high. I don't mind stiff racquets and stiff/dead feeling strings. The Gold provided a comfort that I could enjoy.

    Durability I noticed a bit of notching on the crosses early. Much earlier than with my regular Beast. I'm not a big string breaker so this wasnt a problem but it did stand out. Even after playing a while the string still felt fine though.

    Tension maintenance I'm still hitting with it even after a few sessions. String still feels fine. I tend to string high so maybe the string is settling in but I havnt noticed the playability go downhill at an alrming rate like I have on others. Compared to my regular Beast, this string is performing better after equivelant time being used. A +

    Control Great control on the flat shots! I am really happy being able to hit some laser type shots to all areas on the court with the string. I didnt notice a lot of this explosion on shots with increased spin but the control level was fine on both swings. The ability to control the flat shots gave me confidence to hit with more pace. On serves the control was good. Nothing more than my regular setup but equal and that's a good thing.

    Compare to the string you use most often I'd say it compared equal. I have no complaints about the Luxilon. It felt very similair to the Beast that I use. Maybe a bit softer and better on the hard flat shots. But also maybe a bit less spin potential. Definetley a string that I would use again. Really enjoyed hitting with it. Gets my full approval.

    Tension recommendations I feel like I hit my target tension on the first try. Again, I'm odd and I like poly at higher tensions. Mid 50 on this one with a high 50 syn gut cross was perfect for me.

    Summary Major like- The power/control on hard flat laser shots. Better than any string I have tried. Bonus like- being able to hybrid it and get 2 string jobs out of the package. I felt lucky to get to use it twice! Minor dislike- stringing was a bit of a pain. A few kinks out of the package but nothing I couldnt work with. Just a minor annoyance.

    Overall I really liked the string. High marks on everything I hit. Performed above average in all areas. Thank you TW/Luxilon for the chance to try it out and for the shirt.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2012
  4. tyu1314

    tyu1314 Semi-Pro

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    Full set or hybrid: full
    Tension used for playtest:53lb
    Regular string set up: TOURNA BIG HITTER BLUR ROUGH 16G @53
    Racquet brand and model used for test:WILSON BLX SIX ONE 95
    Power of test string: The power of this string is somewhere between low to mid, i need to swing my racquet a bit faster and harder to make the ball to have the same pace as my normal setup.
    Feel: The string feels alot softer comparing to other luxilon string, it feels like copoly. It think the feel of this string can definity beat most poly in the market.
    Spin: The spin production of this string is really notthing special, it does not have crazy spin as luxilon alu power or solinco tourbite.
    Comfort: This string is pretty comfortable, i do not have any dicomfort after playing it after its been strung for two weeks.
    [B]Durability:[/B] Wow, this is definity more durable than most of the top string out there,alu,rmp..etc. I think it last me for 15hrs before i want to cut it our.I am the kind of person that would not hesistate to cut out polys.
    Compare to the string you use most often Compare 4g to bhbr, i like my bhbr alot better, it feels better,more spin, and more comfortable. I think 4G keeps the tension longer than bhbr, it does not feel as bad as bhbr when it go dead.
    Tension recommendations 48
    Summary: I like that this string is durable,it keeps the tension really nice.
    The #1 dislike is that the price of this string.I dont know the price of this string yet, but i am pretty sure that it would be expensive.
     
  5. CLL

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    The racket I strung for this playtest was the Prince O3 White. I had strung it full set on my Gamma Prog-II. The tension was set to 53. My regular string setup is a hybrid with Topspin Cyber Flash at the mains and Topspin Cyber Blue at the cross. Now onto the review:

    I felt like I needed to swing harder at the ball to produce the same amount of power as my regular setup. The feel of the test string however was comparable to my current setup. There is a nice pocketing feel to the ball. The spin produced is on par with my normal shots (on a side note, I have a full western forehand...). I'd say the string is pretty durable; it is a poly after all. My serves hang a round 90 to 100 mph and the strings haven't broken or tweaked yet. The tension of the strings do not feel as if they have dropped since the first time I got on court with them. Control is adequate. I am able to control my shots to the direction I want them to go, but due to the slightly less power it offers, I had to hit harder to make the ball go deeper. Would I recommend a different tension? I prefer all my polys to be strung in the 53 to 55 range. Although it is hard for me to judge whether or not a tension even higher than 55 or lower than 53 is recommended, I was fairly comfortable with 53.

    Summary:
    After playing with this Golden Thread, I really liked the way the ball felt when I hit it. It provided feel which was on par with my regular setup. The power however felt a little on the low side. Thank you Tennis Warehouse and Luxilon for providing this playtest!
     
  6. neil1b

    neil1b Rookie

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    Played with this for a while and here are the results:

    Full set or hybrid - full set

    Tension used for playtest - my normal 56# on a constant pull machine

    Regular string set up - normally use pro hurricane tour 17g or a SOLINCO 17g

    Racquet brand and model used for test - I use the 2012 version of the Babolat Pure Drive Roddick Plus

    Power of test string - here is where I disagree with many reviewers. I have it in a pretty powerful frame mind you, but this string I feel had too much power, to the point of having a control issue versus my other polys.

    Feel - feel was ok, not the best but not horrible. I feel this string allowed you to feel the ball more with the penalty of control. See below in spin.

    Spin - this string does not produce, or help assist with spin. Compared to my normal set up and a lot of solinco strings, the 4g did not produce the spin that I like. I hit heavy topspin, and the 4g was not bringing the ball down as much as others. Many balls were sailing. A foot long no matter what I tried to fix. I think this was very disappointing. It wasn't a bad day at the CPUs for me, because when switching to my other two sticks, no problem. I think the 4g is for flat hitters.

    Comfort - very comfortable set up for the co poly. Much softer feel than my regulars. I loved how the string felt striking the ball, just not the result.

    Durability - Cut theses out as I did not like them after two weeks. They were holding up well though.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) - I noticed a significant drop in tension after stringing and the first day, after settling in, they maintained the tension very well.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) control was average. On both wings, the lack of spin hurt the placement as most shots would sai
    A tad long.

    Compare to the string you use most often - my current go to string is solinco outlast. Compared the outlast, the 4g was steps below for my play and racquet/tension set up.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) - I think I would string it at 60 if I had another set to try. At my normal tension I was very disappointed with the result and performance.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.

    Likes: comfort and packaging

    Dislikes - spin production, control

    I had high hopes and they did not impress me.
     
  7. assassin510

    assassin510 New User

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    Full set or hybrid - I used this in a full set

    Tension used for play test - Strung it up at 55lbs

    Regular string set up - Signum Pro Tornado 17g

    Racquet brand and model used for test - Wilson BLX Six One Tour 90

    Power of test string - It felt like a low powered string but if you can generate your own power it had plenty of pop

    Feel - This had the typical co-poly feel, dead muted, not very live but a very solid and controlled feel, volleys were very nice

    Spin - I got plenty of spin from this setup, nothing exceptional but enough spin to keep the ball in play.

    Comfort - This is a very soft and comfortable co-poly, I did not experience any arm/wrist/elbow soreness after hitting with it. This string is nothing like the Luxilon Big Bangers from the past, not stiff and easy on the body.

    Durability - Durability is very good on this, I had a few hard hitting practices with this and it barely notched, looks like a very durable string

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) - On the 3rd time hitting with this, I sensed there was a tension drop and there was a good amount of string movement. Afterwards its stabilized and everything was good.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) - Control is great with this string, trajectory is more flat and penetrating, it will reward people with fast swing speeds, players with slower swing speed will feel a lack of power

    Compare to the string you use most often - Compared to Tornado, 4g have way more control. Tornado is more powerful, has a bit more trampoline action, good spin and fun to hit with but difficult to hit your spots under pressure situation. 4g for its low powered control oriented theme gives players confidence when hitting full strokes. Basically what you put into it is what you're going to get out of it, this is a very precise/accuracy based string.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) - I would recommend players to string this up at tension they usually string their polys with. Nothing in this string's characteristic warrant increasing or decreasing the tension in my opinion.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.


    Initially the string played terrible for me, it was like 2 shots in and 1 shot out, I was very frustrated. As time past and my swing adjusted, every shot I hit went in. The ball had good spin on it and was more penetrating compared to what I hit before, seems like the more I hit the better my swing get. I really enjoyed the control and confidence this string provides, the feel is solid and has some nice pop for players with fast swing speeds. The only thing I didn't like was its tension maintenance, seems like after a few hours there's a drop off then the string stabilizes but still very playable.
     
  8. nadalex

    nadalex Rookie

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    so ive spent an awfully long time with these strings in my frame and here are my findings

    Full set or hybrid

    full

    Tension used for playtest

    50 lbs

    Regular string set up

    discho iontec at around 50 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test

    Head Youtek Prestige Pro

    Power of test string

    this was not the best part of the string it was incredibly low powered allowing for huge cuts on the ball. Although after nearly 7 hrs the power level had bumped up quite a bit but the control factor had also lowered so I wasnt too happy about that

    Feel

    this was one of the best aspects of the string. This 4g was a very soft string that shone at net and on touch shots. My volleys were good with nice depth and feel and i felt i could really punch volleys with no fear. Also dropshots were sweet i could feel the string gripping the ball on the backspin shots

    Spin

    This was also not one of the best parts of the string. Spin was good but for a poly it was lacking. I had no fear of missing due to the low power but the spin didnt help much in keeping balls from going long or making them dive down. Backspin however worked well with slices and dropshots. This was a result of the soft feel.

    Comfort

    For a poly, and a luxilon poly in that this string was very comfortable. I have played with a wide spectrum of polys and i can say this is amongst the softest most forgiving polys. I felt no arm or shoulder pain however early on my wrist was aching from the low powered aspect but i felt better after the break in period and i later felt no pain

    Durability

    tension maintenance wise this string was great and didnt lose much tension after the initial drop. I was very surprised after using previous luxilon offerings. This string ewas good from start to finish. Also the string didnt break even after 15 hrs of use. MY usual string breaks at 13 hrs on average.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)

    the string loosened up noticeably at 15 hrs and thats why ive chosen to post my review now at the 15th hr of play

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)

    control was sweet. I was never scared i would miss and i was able to take monsterous cuts at the ball. I had so much confidence out on court with this string and I think i need to purchase a set in the future just to relive the happiness i felt from the huge control

    Compare to the string you use most often

    compared to my reference string this string is about as soft, lower powered, has equal tension maintenance, more control, less spin, less touch/feel and is slightly more durable

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)

    I was happy with 50 lbs but for more power I would suggest going down to even 45 lbs

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.

    likes- control, tension maintenance, feel

    dislikes- power, spin
     
  9. jonnyjack

    jonnyjack Rookie

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    I played seven sessions for a total playtest time of almost 12 hours since we only had two weeks.

    Full set or hybrid
    Tension used for playtest

    I played a hybrid for the playtest and strung on a Klippermate dropweight with no issues.
    Mains: Luxilon 4G at 48 lbs
    Crosses: Wilson Synthetic Gut Extreme 17 at 50 lbs

    Regular string set up
    Mains: Signum Pro Poly Plasma 17 at 48 lbs
    Crosses: Wilson Synthetic Gut Extreme 17 at 50 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Yonex RDiS 100 Midplus

    Power of test string
    It felt low powered to me as others have mentioned, especially on flat serves. It is definitely good for those who like to take full swings but when I try to block back big serves, it was tough for me to return deep enough into the court.

    Feel
    Pretty nice feel to me that has stayed consistent since breaking in after the initial hour of playing. Strings felt crisp regardless of whether I played during a cool night or a hot day. When I had time to set up and really swing away and hit the sweet spot, I could tell I hit a good shot.

    Spin
    I didn't feel like I was getting enough topspin on groundstrokes especially on my favorite shot, the short angled backhand crosscourt. I couldn't get it to stay in so it felt like it wasn't biting the ball enough to dip back over the net. When I hit serves, the spin was fine since I was tossing the ball as it wasn't spinning towards me as they are when I am hitting groundstrokes. I think this string is 1.25 gauge so that might be a factor since my usual SPPP is 1.23. Spin wasn't terrible or anything, just less than I am used to and my game is more spin that flat.

    Comfort
    I have never used Luxilon before since people usually tell me they have elbow problems with their string but comfort was good for this string. No issues when I took big cuts at the ball and off center shots didn't affect me. I did string this as a hybrid so that probably helped too but no complaints at all from me here.

    Durability
    I'm not a string breaker as it usually takes me 35-40 hours to break the synthetic gut cross in a hybrid setup. I've never broken a poly first. Lately, I've just cut out my hybrid setups around 25 hours or so. Since we only had two weeks to playtest and I'm only at 12 hours of usage, I don't expect it'll be breaking any time soon. Wear looks about the same as my usual setup after the same amount of play and it's still playing great.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable?)
    Tension maintenance has been really good so far. Not sure when it becomes unplayable since we only had two weeks but as I said earlier, still playing great after 12 hours. Softened up after an hour or so and has felt the same since!

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    This is definitely a control oriented string if you have the swing speed for it and flatter swing path. When I had a slow swing speed, control wasn't as good such as when I blocked back returns. I could place serves pretty much at will if I kept the swing speed up. Due to that, I loved serving with this string other than flat serves since it was low-powered and I am weak, haha. Definitely geared more toward flat hitters when hitting groundstrokes unlike me who hits semi-western with a big uppercut swing but usually I hit more forehand slices since I try to chip/charge as I usually play doubles. Slices were ok with this string, didn't seem to bite that much but it did go where I wanted.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    Didn't get as much bite on my spinny shots as compared to SPPP nor was there as much power as SPPP when I tried to hit flatter serves/groundstrokes. It felt very similar when comparing comfort, tension maintenance, and overall feel though. I think even Jason from TW said it was similar to SPPP in one of the reviews.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    I don't think I would change the tension. Reading other reviews, everyone said it was low powered so lowering the tension probably won't do much other than take away control which was a plus. I'll take control over power every time.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    Likes: Comfort and tension maintenance for sure.
    Dislikes: Not enough bite on the slices.

    Thanks again Luxilon and TW!
     
  10. djnemo

    djnemo Rookie

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    Full set or hybrid: Full Set
    Tension used for playtest: 54 mains/ 52 cross
    Regular string set up: Signum Tornado 54/52
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Wilson BLX 6.1 95 2012 (16 x 18)
    Power of test string: Average for a poly, similar to Tornado, and more powerful then SPPP. Less powerful then any Luxilon BB Alu.
    Feel: Muted, not much feedback or crispness
    Spin: Above average for a smooth poly. I was getting good kick on the topspin and slices stayed low. Alu Rough and Tornado had a bit more spin, but I was happy with the spin I was getting with 4g.
    Comfort: Comfortable for a poly, no elbow pain.
    Durability: 5 hours of play and still no signs of wear or loss of playability.
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): Again- 5 hours of play and no drop in playability. Alu, particulary Fluoro, started going dead at 3 hours.
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): Excellent control, above average for a poly/
    Compare to other strings: Hard to compare to Tornado as Tornado has more spin and is a shaped poly, but I think 4G is comparable to SPPP and Pro Line Evolution, but with a bit more power then either of these.

    Summary: Solid if unspectacular all-around string. Above average in many categories, but doesn't really shine in any one, although tension maintenance is still to be determined as I only played 5 hours with it.
     
  11. TMR

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    Whether or not you used a full set or hybrid for the playtest
    4G in mains, natural gut in crosses


    Tension used for playtest
    45/42


    Your regular string set up
    Gamma Professional 18 full bed


    Racquet brand and model used for test
    HEAD Prestige Pro 89.5

    Power level of test string or hybrid
    Good power given low tension and natural gut cross


    Feel (crisp? mushy? soft? stiff? off center feedback?)
    A little stiff, but better than most polys

    Spin
    A little more spin than usual

    Comfort
    Still quite comfortable, especially compared to other polys


    Durability
    Still going strong. At my low tension, strings hardly ever break.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable?) still holding up well.


    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    good control, perhaps because there is little string movement.


    Compare to the string you use most often
    A little less overall than Gamma Professional 18, but price and durability are better


    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension?)
    I could probably go a few pounds less.



    General comments (please summarize likes and dislikes)
    some coiling issues. Also, string tends to bend and keep the bend. This is an issue when tying off. You have to be super careful when pulling to tie off, otherwise the string will snap.


    I think this will be a nice hybrid string.
    I would like a thinner gauge, perhaps 17.
    18 gauge would be nice, but I think it would break to easy, especially with the tie off issues I mentioned.
    Also, nice having a tennis string that matches my old G4 Mac powerbook!
     
  12. The Wreck

    The Wreck Semi-Pro

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    Full set or hybrid: Full Set

    Tension used for playtest: 50 pounds. Stringing notes: It was a bit of a pain, but nothing out of the ordinary for a poly. Lots of coil memory and kinking. Very smooth texture though, so weaving crosses wasn't bad at all.

    Regular string set up: Always testing new things. Usually polyester strings. Last was the string from the Solinco play test.

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Youtek IG Prestige Pro

    Power of test string: It required a full swing, but there was definitely a good amount of power there. You were rewarded for really going after the ball, I thought. Slower and shorter swing types probably got more of the low-powered feel of most polys. I had no trouble getting good depth on the ball with the 4G, something that did happen with the Solinco polyester I last tested.

    Feel: Very crisp. This is the trait I desire most in a new string. It wasn't overly stiff, but didn't feel mushy either. Just crisp and solid. Also had a bit more feel at the net then I get from most polys.

    Spin: Average. Not as much as some textured polys I've used like BHB7 or BHSR. I had to give it a little extra spin on the second serves and some groundstrokes to keep it in the court.

    Comfort: I'm not overly sensitive to things like this, but it felt plenty comfortable to me. Definitely not the most forgiving on shots outside the sweet spot, but that could be just as much a function of the racket I use.

    Durability: Seemed like it would last a long time. In the time I put on it, I noticed no notching. Every Luxilon string I've tried has been great in the durability department. As a string breaker, I wouldn't worry about 4G breaking on me frequently.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): Never got to that point for me. I was actually glad when it loosened up a bit.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): No complaints here. It didn't balloon the ball off the forehand side like some strings I've used in the past. I really didn't have any problems being precise with it, and with right amount of spin, depth control wasn't a problem. As a mentioned earlier, really required a full swing. If I tried to just hit a chip, slice backhand and didn't catch it just right, it had the tendency to just die off the racket.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to most polyester strings in general: Crisper feel, slightly less forgiving, good power with a full swing, better control and depth.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): 50 is my sweet spot most of the time. Since I liked it a bit more once it loosened up, I may start it out at 48 or so.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. Likes: Crisp feel. Good depth. Dislikes: Lack of forgiveness on off center hits.

    Thanks TW and Luxilon for another great play test!
     
  13. db10s

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    Full set or hybrid
    FS

    Tension used for playtest
    46lbs

    Regular string set up
    Black widow 46lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Dunlop HM 200G

    Power of test string
    I would sum it up as lower powered, which I like. I was able to take a full swing at the ball before it lost tension.

    Feel
    It had a crisp feeling which gave good feedback if you hit the sweetspot.

    Spin
    Spin was an area where it was different from my normal setup. I was able to get some good bite on the ball but nothing extraordinary.

    Comfort
    It wasn't a super soft poly, but it wasn't unbearable either. It was comfortable enough for me.

    Durability
    I cut it out at the 11 hour mark due to tension loss. It lasted longer than the Solinco playtest, but Black Widow beats it. When I cut it out it was notched quite a bit and probably would have broken soon.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable?)
    11 hours was where it was unplayable. The tension loss wasn't gradual, but instead one big tension loss starting at 10.5 hrs and going on from there.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    I feel that this is a control string, which I like. My favorite shot with it was my 1hbh which I was able to laser the lines with. I had nice control on all of my shots, but I didn't like my volleys as much as it seemed they went long a few too many times.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    Similar except for tension maintenance and spin.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    I liked how it played at the strung tension and think that it was a good fit for me.
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    Likes: Control
    Dislikes: tension maintenance

    Thanks guys!
     
  14. KoolTennisKid

    KoolTennisKid New User

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    Full set or hybrid- used this string in a full set
    Tension used for playtest- for this one since i am starting to string lower, i decided to go with 48lbs.
    Regular string set up- Luxillon Alu Power rough at 48lbs-52lbs.
    Racquet brand and model used for test- Wilson Prostaff six one 95
    Power of test string- the power level of the string reminded me of my own personal string set up. Low to medium low powered.
    Feel- Feel was really good for a poly. It was nice and crisp, and it stayed like that for quite a while. I could actually feel where the majority of my shots where going unlike some other polys.
    Spin- i'd have to say it was on par with the rest of the premium luxillon products.
    Comfort- i normally like really stiff polys but this one was a good balance between soft and stiff. Just right.
    Durability- well ive never actually broken a poly, so no it did not break and there are no signs of it going to break.
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)- yeah i think what luxillon is saying about it having good tension maintenance is true, its holding up really well. i'd have to say ive played around 16ish hours and it is holding up amazingly well!!
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)control was also on par with the other luxillon products. it really allowed me to take fast long strokes with no problems. i could really hit literally any shot i wanted at any swing speed without worring about wether or not it'll land where i wanted it to land.
    Compare to the string you use most often- its almost identical, the only big differences was just that it was a little softer than my personal string which i liked and the longer tension maintenance which a very big plus.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)- 48lbs felt really good, i'd would probably just bump it up like 2 more lbs.
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.- LIKES:the tension maintenance and the comfort of the string, also the color was pretty sweet too. DISLIKES: A little more power would help my a bit on my serves but its not much of a problem.

    I personally might consider switching to this string, i really enjoyed everything. Thank you TW and Luxillon for the chance to playtest this string and keep up the good work!!!
     
  15. DANMAN

    DANMAN Professional

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    Full set
    Tension used for playtest: 55lbs.
    Regular string set up: Luxilon Big Banger ALU Power 16L at 55lbs.
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Babolat Pure Drive Standard 2012 in stock form
    Power of test string: I'd say this string is medium powered for a poly. It has good pop but doesn't seem to have that rebound snap off the strings that I find ALU to have. I think that is one of the reasons ALU is so unique. It has more predictable power from shot to shot than ALU. I find that I could get expected results based on swing speed. With ALU, every time I catch the sweet spot perfectly, it gets a little extra snap and pop.
    Feel: I found this string had a unique feel to it. It was comfortable but crisp. It didn't feel as stiff/harsh as some of the stiffer polys like ALU. I find that string feel is unique to each playtester. I tend to like the deader response of polys and this one fits right in there with all of the better ones.
    Spin: I find that this string is on par with ALU for spin. Recently, I playtested the Solinco Prototype string B and found that it offered better spin than any string I have tried to date. I am finding a bit less spin with the Luxilons, but feel that the ball penetrates a bit more. This string offers more spin than most polys and co-polys, even some of the textured and multi-sided ones. I feel like Luxilon in general is on top of the spin market.
    Comfort: 4G really excels in the comfort area for a Luxilon poly. ALU will give me some shoulder tenderness once in a blue moon. Timo occasionally felt stiff on my wrist when I used to use it. I found that the 4G played very comfortably throughout the playtest, especially when the string hit the two week mark where I find ALU just feels boardy and comfort starts to decrease. This is a clear improvement over other Luxilon strings.
    Durability: I found the Durability to be excellent. It's still going strong but is about to pop at just over 2 weeks based on the notching. I will say it is likely a little less durable than ALU and Original, but it playes better for longer so the price/performance is probably a bit better all things considered.
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): this string has been playable for the life of it. I have not popped it at 2 weeks yet and haven't had the urge to cut it out. I don't believe in relative tension meters like the String Meter. I go based on feel. This string has clearly lost some tension but is still playing quite well. That's an A+ for a poly.
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): This string excels in control. The combination of good feel for a poly, great spin, and a medium amount of power leads to a sense of control over the ball when it comes to depth and angles. I find polys to have better control at high swing speeds generally; however, this string had fairly good control even when going for lower percentage shots like drop shots that depend on the combination of feel, power, comfort and control. The 4G gets an A+ in this category as well.
    Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to ALU, this string compares quite well. It is a bit more comfortable, plays better for longer, has the same amount of spin, potentially a little better control at the expense of a little power on very hard hit balls. It is not so different that I'd definitely change over to it, but it will appeal to slightly different players. I could venture to say that I may prefer the 4G to the ALU if I were on the clay courts but would rather the ALU on the hard.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I'd recommend stringing it at your typical poly tension. It is too hard to adjust for variability in string type when changing tension. It's not a harsh string that requires a drop from your normal poly tension, but it would (at least for me) require a drop if I were used to using a multi, synthetic gut, or natural gut.
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    Likes:
    1. Good all around performer with considerable longevity and exceptional durability.
    2. The most consistent performing of all the Luxilons that I've tried over its lifetime.

    Dislikes:
    1. None really but digging deep...I would have preferred a bit more pop to it. I can't find a string that offers better pop with excellent control on a hard struck ball than ALU. It's just an unbelieveable combination.
    2. The color is not my favorite. That's the only way I could fill in a #2.

    Thanks so much for the opportunity to try this string. This string fills a unique area in the Luxilon line. It is very comparable to ALU and will probably appeal to more players overall than ALU. It outperforms Savage in all aspects. I think Luxilon is on to something with this one.
     
  16. Unfrozen Caveman

    Unfrozen Caveman Rookie

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    Full set or hybrid

    full

    Tension used for playtest

    53 lbs

    Regular string set up

    Solinco Tour Bite 53 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test

    Babolat Pure Storm GT Plus

    Power of test string

    Fairly low, but not significantly lower than Tour Bite

    Feel

    I was quite pleased with the feel of this string. This 4g was soft and played well at net and on touch shots. It performed significantly better that my Tour Bite in this category.

    Spin

    Spin was moderate and was noticeably less spinny than Tour Bite.

    Comfort

    A very comfortable poly. My arm pain (mild after 2 days of hard play) was no worse than it is with a soft multi strung about 9 lbs. tighter.

    Durability

    The jury is still out on this one since I have only played with it for about 5 to 6 hours so far. I will report back on this.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)

    So far, there has not been a significant tension drop. If this holds up or if tension only decreases modestly over the next 10 hours or so, I will be quite pleased.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)

    Control was great, very predictable.

    Compare to the string you use most often


    Compared to Tour Bite, this string was more comfortable, had better feel, similar control and power, but less spin. Durability and playability to be determined.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)

    I was happy with 53 lbs.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.

    likes- feel, comfort, and control

    dislikes- none yet (will update after playing with it longer)

    Thanks for the trial Lux and TW!
     
  17. bigserving

    bigserving Semi-Pro

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    Thanks again to Tennis Warehouse for continuing to provide these opportunities to explore new products and thanks to the folks at Luxilon for this particular opportunity.

    As usual the string was strung as a full set, two piece job, in a Dunlop Aerogel 200 Tour at 50 pounds in both the mains and the crosses on a lockout machine.

    Comparing this string to my most recently regular string, Dunlop Black Widow 17 - The test string had a little more power than Black Widow. The spin effect was relatively similar to the BW. That could have been to needing to change tension.

    To me, the most noticeable characteristic of this string is the consistency. After the expected drop of in tension, settle in, the string remained playable for noticeably longer than other strings. The strings started out very stiff but settled in after about a half hour of practice. Then, they remained at nearly that same feel for about the next eight sets over two weeks.
    Power level – The power of the 4G string felt a little above average, when compared to other polys. It had outstanding spin and great control. I had similar action on my kick serve and continuing to give each of my opponents fits which is extremely important to my competitive game.

    The test string definitely felt more stiff but not to the point of being uncomfortable. The power level and, or spin might be positively affected by a tension adjustment. I needed, and was able to swing big with is string at 50.

    The racket is fairly flexible and helps provide dampening with the more stiff strings such as this one, so it worked well with the string. I would recommend trying a lower than usual tension for some extra power for this string.

    The consistency and longevity could make this a very good value in a string even if the set and reel prices are on the high side. The longevity is at least a characteristic that are very desirable in a string. The consistency is something that is great to have in back up rackets strung for tournament play.
    Overall, this was an excellent quality string that I can easily recommend to my stringing clients.

    Thank You Again,
     
  18. trek5000

    trek5000 New User

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    Full set or hybrid: full set
    Tension used for playtest: 47 lbs
    Regular string set up: Volkl Cyclone 47lbs
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Volkl Powerbridge 10 mid

    Power of test string: Versus big banger alu power, these had a softer but less powerful feel.

    Feel: Feel was good, with good ball pocketing.

    Spin: Less spin than I can generate from Volkl Cyclone, but plenty of access to spin to feel confident in keeping the ball in the court when taking full strokes.

    Comfort: Very comfortable vs. Big Banger alu power. Similar in comfort to other soft polys like Kirschbaum pro line 2, RPM blase, Volkl Cyclone.

    Durability: TBD as I have only been hitting with them for 1 week.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): Toward the end of a week of regular play, they began feeling loser thus more springy. I would say average tension maintenance.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): Great control. The ball pocketing made it feel predictable where you were aiming the ball.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Vs. Volkl Cyclone these are very similar, but I find I have more access to spin with the Volkl Cyclone. It had everything I prefer in poly strings: durability, on the softer side for poly, low string movement, spin, medium power, no arm problems.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I like it at my normal tension of 47 lbs.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. I like the black color of strings. I don't prefer some of these new colors coming on the market like red and neon yellow. I primarily look for soft polys and these fit the bill. Ball pocketing was good and spin was good. I don't think I'd switch to these as I like Volkl Cyclone and Kirschbaum pro line 2 better as I prefer the softness and price better.
     
  19. AC Tennis

    AC Tennis Rookie

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    My review

    A bit about me
    I’m a 4.5 all court player, who plays primarily doubles these days. One handed backhand and just transitioning from a classic eastern forehand to a modern open stance western forehand. I string my own rackets and usually use multis but have lately been experimenting with poly hybrids.

    Full set or hybrid
    Hybrid with 4G in mains at 47lbs and Pro Supex Titan (17g syn gut) on crosses at 50 lbs

    Tension used for playtest
    See above

    Regular string set up
    Babolat Pro Hurricane 16g mains at 47lbs, Pro Supex Titan 17g on crosses at 50lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Yonex VCore 98d

    Power of test string
    The string itself is low powered compared to the Hurricane, and other polys I’ve used, such as Beast XP. However, as in many of the other categories, the other characteristics of this string allow me to swing faster and with more control than my normal set up. So the string itself is lower powered, but due to the control, I think I actually hit harder with it than my normal set up.

    Feel
    Excellent for a poly. Nothing like a multi, but still, very consistent response and enough give to allow good feel, especially on volleys. You still need to have the racket moving, but the strings give good feedback allowing me pretty good feel for a poly.

    Spin
    Again, the string itself is not exceptionally spinny, but due to its control, I felt that I could swing faster and still have control, so that I could impart quite a bit of spin due to my racket speed rather than the natural spin producing characteristics of the string.

    Comfort
    Pretty good for a poly. The string gives as you hit, but is still firm and crisp. Hard to describe, but an overall pleasant feel.

    Durability
    I’ve only put about 8 hours on the string so far, but seems to be durable.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)
    So far so good. After about 8 hours, I haven’t noticed any drop in tension.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    This is where this string shines. The control was excellent. The string has properties that allowed me to swing out, increase my racket head speed and yet keep the ball in play and going where I intend to send it. Like most polys, the control is better with faster swing speeds. It tends to be boardy if you just block a ball back. So the faster you swing, the more control the string provides.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    Less natural power and spin, but better control and feel. And as mentioned previously, allows for more control with faster racket head speed, so power and spin come from the ability to swing faster, not the inherent properties of the string.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    I liked it at 47lbs, but would drop it down a couple pounds for a bit more power. So I would try it next time at 45lbs or so.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    I didn’t really have any dislikes as the string was pretty good all around. I especially liked the control and feel for a poly.

    As a side note, I have never before played with a Luxilon string as they seem way too expensive. After this playtest, I can see why some would pay the extra money to play with Luxilon.
     
  20. parasailing

    parasailing Hall of Fame

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    Spent the weekend testing several setups and finally finished a few hours hitting with this string.

    Full set or hybrid


    Hybrid

    Tension used for playtest

    52 lbs

    Regular string set up

    VS Mains with Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution(PLE)

    Racquet brand and model used for test

    Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT

    Power of test string

    Much lower than PLE

    Feel

    I thought the string was average. This is softer than Alu Power but not as crisp.

    Spin

    Spin was moderate.

    Comfort

    A more comfortable string than Alu Power.

    Durability

    I have about 4 hours on it and so far doesn't feel dead like Alu Power.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)

    I noticed a slight tension drop but still playable. Will see if this holds up to the 10 to 15 hour mark.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)

    Due to this being a low powered string, control is definitely a plus with this string.

    Compare to the string you use most often


    Compared to PLE, this string is not as good in all categories except it has more control due to it being a lower powered string.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)

    I would go lower to try to increase the power maybe around 48lbs.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.

    likes- control

    dislikes- underpowered

    I had high hopes that this string would be the replacement for Alu Power and address the only issue with Alu which is durability but this is a totally different string.

    Thanks TW for the string and the shirt!
     
  21. cardshark

    cardshark New User

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    Confirm the prototype you received - A or B: B

    Whether or not you used a full set or hybrid for the playtest: Hybrid

    If hybrid, list the other string used and whether it was in mains or crosses: Prototype B in mains at 58 lbs & Head FXP 16g in crosses at 61 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Flexpoint Radical Oversized

    Power level of test string or hybrid: Medium. I did not feel that the string added more power to my shots in comparison to my usual set up.

    Feel (crisp? mushy? soft? stiff? off center feedback?): The feel was a little stiffer than my usual set up, but are softer than some of the polys that I have tried, such as the Prince Beast XP 16g.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable?): I have played with it for a couple of hours and I haven’t noticed any loss in tension. I think that it maintains its tension much better than other strings I’ve tried out.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I thought that the control with this string was pretty good. I was able to control the depth and direction of my ground strokes and volleys well with this string. I also enjoyed the added control on my serves too.

    Spin: I enjoyed the amount of spin I got from this string setup. I am a relatively flat hitter and am looking for strings that will help me get my shots in the court, which this string did.

    Compare to the string you use most often: This string is a large improvement in the spin and control categories when compared to my usual set up, which helped my consistency considerably. I did not notice any extra power in my shots with this new string. While stiffer than my usual setup, the string was not as hard on my arm as other polys.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension?): I am happy with the tension that I chose.

    General comments (please summarize likes and dislikes): I enjoyed this string and playtest. I am currently looking for a new string set up to help me improve my game further, especially in consistency. I think this string is a good candidate to switch to. Hopefully the price of the string will not break the bank.



    Full set or hybrid: Hybrid w/ Head FXP 16g in crosses

    Tension used for playtest: Luxilon 4g in mains at 55 lbs & Head FXP 16g at 57 lbs

    Regular string set up: Wilson Enduro Pro 16g at 57 lbs & Head FXP 16g at 61 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Radical Flexpoint Oversized

    Power of test string: I felt that the power was average to below average. Sometimes I had to swing a little faster to get my groundstrokes and serves to the velocity that I wanted.

    Feel: The feel was stiffer than my regular set up. When I hit sweetspot, I was rewarded with a nice crisp feel, but off center shots were did not feel very good. Touch shots, like drop shots and lobs, were amazing.

    Spin: I felt that I got a good amount of spin from this string, enough to keep my shots, which are relatively flat, in the court. I did not think that the Luxilon 4g gave me as much spin when compared with the Solinco Prototype B String that I tried a few weeks ago.

    Comfort: The string was very comfortable in comparison to some of the other polys I have tried and did not cause me pain or problems with my arm.

    Durability: It doesn’t look like it is breaking soon after over 10 hours of play.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): After playing with this string set up for several hours, I did not feel any significant drop in tension, which is great considering how other polys lose tension very quickly.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I felt that I had great control on my shots with this string. I was able to hit my shots with an almost pinpoint accuracy. The control on depth, direction, & height were great.

    Compare to the string you use most often: It definitely has more spin and control that my usual set up, which definitely helped my relatively flat game. It was slightly lower powered and stiffer than my usual string, but I felt that it is a good match for my playing style.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I think that the tension that I chose perfect.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes: I really loved the control that the strings gave me. I also enjoyed how comfortable the strings were and the great tension maintenance, despite being polys. If the strings had a little more power and are not too expensive, I would say that it would be a great string.
     
  22. cardshark

    cardshark New User

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    Full set or hybrid: Hybrid w/ Head FXP 16g in crosses

    Tension used for playtest: Luxilon 4g in mains at 55 lbs & Head FXP 16g at 57 lbs

    Regular string set up: Wilson Enduro Pro 16g at 57 lbs & Head FXP 16g at 61 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Radical Flexpoint Oversized

    Power of test string: I felt that the power was average to below average. Sometimes I had to swing a little faster to get my groundstrokes and serves to the velocity that I wanted.

    Feel: The feel was stiffer than my regular set up. When I hit sweetspot, I was rewarded with a nice crisp feel, but off center shots were did not feel very good. Touch shots, like drop shots and lobs, were amazing.

    Spin: I felt that I got a good amount of spin from this string, enough to keep my shots, which are relatively flat, in the court. I did not think that the Luxilon 4g gave me as much spin when compared with the Solinco Prototype B String that I tried a few weeks ago.

    Comfort: The string was very comfortable in comparison to some of the other polys I have tried and did not cause me pain or problems with my arm.

    Durability: It doesn’t look like it is breaking soon after over 10 hours of play.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): After playing with this string set up for several hours, I did not feel any significant drop in tension, which is great considering how other polys lose tension very quickly.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I felt that I had great control on my shots with this string. I was able to hit my shots with an almost pinpoint accuracy. The control on depth, direction, & height were great.

    Compare to the string you use most often: It definitely has more spin and control that my usual set up, which definitely helped my relatively flat game. It was slightly lower powered and stiffer than my usual string, but I felt that it is a good match for my playing style.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I think that the tension that I chose perfect.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes: I really loved the control that the strings gave me. I also enjoyed how comfortable the strings were and the great tension maintenance, despite being polys. If the strings had a little more power and are not too expensive, I would say that it would be a great string.
     
  23. pperfater

    pperfater New User

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    Luxilon 4g test

    I strung the test string as a full set

    Tension used for playtest: 52lbs.

    Regular string set up: Solinco Tour Bite 16g at 52 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Wilson Nblade 98

    Power of test string: I found the string to be low/medium powered. Felt a little “board-like” but not so different that numerous other polys I have tested. I was unable to get the spin I desired on serves. Ground strokes were OK and stayed in range even with a full swing. A number of folks here have compared this to ALU, but if I am playing with a Luxilon string I find TIMO to have better pop and spin than ALU and chose TIMO.

    Feel: If I am going to have to put up with the “board-like” feel I might as well get the power of ALU or TIMO.

    Spin: What spin ? I hit a flat ball, but like to get a good slice serve which I was unable to obtain with the test string. Maybe the Solinco Tour Bite spoiled me on the spin serve.

    Comfort: Perhaps this string is softer than ALU as others have suggested, but the lack of power made me want to hit harder.

    Durability: Still using it after several weeks, and will likely continue until some other string gets my attention. I don’t break strings before they lose their feel and I restring.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): My sample is still playable after several weeks. I expect I will just get bored with it in a week or two and move on to something else.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I cannot complain about control. I do have to focus on hitting the sweet spot on serves as opposed to trying to force spin and slice. I just cannot seem to get this string to give good spin on a serve. However, my slice backhand seems OK with this string.

    Compare to the string you use most often: I play with Solinco Tour Bite, sometimes Solinco Barb Wire, and then I sometimes hybrid one of the Solinco strings with Gamma TNT2. I cannot see going to this Luxilon string as I am certain it is going to be expensive compared to the Solinco strings and I do not think it plays better.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I strung at 52 lbs; if I had another pack I would likely try it lower to see if I could get some pop.

    Summary: (List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.)

    Likes:
    1. The gold string looks real “purty” in the black and gold Wilson Kblade..

    Dislikes:
    1. Needs a little more pop and spin potential
    2. I expect I will not like the price.

    I wonder what this string would be like in a thinner gauge, and perhaps strung lower; could be a completely different feel. However, I just don’t see my investing in a bunch of this string when customers who think they know what they want in a pricey string will ask for ALU, or now Babolat RPM Blast. .... Thanks for the chance to test the string.
     
  24. bigmalik76

    bigmalik76 Rookie

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    Thank You TW for the opportunity, as always it was my pleasure!

    Setup:
    M: TestString @52 lbs; C: Babolat Addiction 17g at 58 lbs

    Regular string set up: lately M:pros Pro Balckout @52 lbs; C:technifiber E-Matrix 17g/Forten Seet 17g @58 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Speed Pro

    Power of test string: Low powered. I generate my own so for me it was exactly what I like.

    Feel: Although the feeling was muted compared to full bed of multi I really like the feeling for a Poly.

    Spin:
    Spin was normal I did not feel that the string improved the spin from other strings.

    Comfort:
    I was surprised but for me this setup was very comfortable. I really enjoyed the way it felt and had no soreness at all.

    Durability:
    I felt durability was good and I had no issues with the string.

    Tension maintenance
    : For me I really enjoyed the string until around the 10 hr (+- 2 hr) mark. After that the comfort and feel both seemed to drop

    Control:
    I really love the string from the baseline. Had great control even when really going for big shot. I liked serving as well. On Volley the string was ok, little bit muted for me to really like this string at the net. I did like it on BH slice.

    Compare to the string you use most often:
    I really did like the string a lot. I was surprised how good it played from the baseline. I will probably purchase a set and will try it out as a cross as well and with some other hybrid setups. Definitely a string that is worth a try.

    Tension recommendations:
    For me the tension was good. I usually string all my setups the same especially for comparison reasons. I would leave the tension the same.

    Summary:
    I really like the string from the base line. I love the control I had with it. For big hitting baseliner this is worth a try. At net I was missing some feel but nonetheless this was a positive test for me. I would give the string 8.5 out of 10.
     
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  25. enderx1x

    enderx1x New User

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    Full set or hybrid: Full bed

    Tension used for playtest 48/46

    Regular string set up Solinco Tour Bite (previously 52 but past few string beds I have gone a bit lower and liked 48/46)

    Racquet brand and model used for test Yonex RDiS 100 midplus

    Power of test stringlow-medium. If I had strung at 52 the power would have probably been too low for me. However, the power at this tension was good enough for me, and I could swing out while getting good depth.

    Feel Fairly good. I like the feel of soft polys in general. On ground strokes it felt about normal, but I really liked the feel on volleys. It was medium stiffness (soft for a poly) but still a bit crisp.

    Spin Medium - fairly low for a poly. However combined with the lower power I got good depth. This string gave me the power and spin I put in, with no extra "help". However, that is not necessarily a bad thing as I could swing out more. On ground strokes less spin wasn't too much of a problem. However, I was feeling it a bit on kick serves.

    Comfort Good here, no arm problems- although I don't usually have them. Soft for a poly.

    Durability About 10 hours in a deep notches. Probably won't get too much longer.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)Pretty good for around 6 hours, and then a slow decline in control.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)One of the highlights of this string. I could place the ball a bit better than I usually could. Nice for volleys.

    Compare to the string you use most often less spin, less power, more control, softer

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) 48/46 felt good. The comfort was good enough that if I wanted to go into the low 50s I would have no problem. However, I enjoyed the extra pop that I got from going a bit lower.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. I liked the control and comfort. However, I would still prefer my strings to have a little more pop to them. Overall I would say this string is maybe a little better than average, but nothing amazing.

    Thanks TW and Luxilon for the string and shirt.
     
  26. cltennis21

    cltennis21 New User

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    You must include the following in your review

    Full set or hybrid
    - full bed

    Tension used for playtest
    -43/44 constant pull

    Regular string set up
    - iontec black 1.25 43/44

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    - babolat pure storm gt

    Power of test string
    - 5/10 power was low even for a poly. Not nessisarly a bad thing because I like
    Low powerd strings but this was a tad too low for my game.

    Feel
    - 7/10 has a unique feel I thought, very solid not plasticky. But nothing like natural gut.

    Spin
    - 8/10 on big fast swing this string has some exceptional spin but you have to put in that effort on every swing.

    Comfort
    -6/10 no arm problems with this string but typical poly comfort.

    Durability
    8/10 slight notching so far cant really comment

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)
    4/10 did not enjoy the tension maintance of this string I though it dropped heavily at the 2 hr mark but then stabilized which is a plus.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) 9/10 great control on all shot. Big swings stay in the court due to the low power and good spin.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    Compared to iontec it's a little stiffer, less power, more control, and more damanding overall.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I would change te tension to 43/42 in order to open u the sweet spot.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes
    Great control but the feel and tension maintance
    Could be better. And looking at the price it's quite steep.

    Thanks tw
    - chase
     
  27. Rjtennis

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    4G Playtest Review

    Whether or not you used a full set or hybrid for the playtest:
    I used the 4G is a full bed.

    Tension used for playtest:
    50/49 lbs on a Neos lockout machine


    Your regular string set up:
    Kirschbaum Spiky Shark 17G

    Racquet brand and model used for test:
    HEAD YOUTEK Extreme Pro

    Power level of test string or hybrid:
    I felt that the string was pretty low powered even when strung at a fairly low tension.

    Feel (crisp? mushy? soft? stiff? off center feedback?:The string felt very crisp throughout the playtest, but did not feel harsh in anyway. I really liked how plush the stringbed felt.

    Spin:
    I wouldnt categorize this as a string that offer exceptional access to spin. I mean it still offered spin by it being a poly string, but it was not as a stand out feature of this string. When being pressed and defending from behind the baseline, it wasnt as easy to hit high, deep, topspin rally balls to get myself back in the point. I also had a harder time getting the same amount of kick on my serve that I usually do. When I was stringing my racket, I noticed that the surface of this string had a wax like feeling. I wonder if that coating negatively influences spin.

    Comfort:This string felt extremely comfortable to me. It didnt send off bad vibrations or feel tinny at all!

    Durability: I probably have 4.5 hours on the string and it still is very playable. After one hitting session I felt that the tension had dropped just a little bit, but it was nothing that affected the performance of this string. Tension maitenence and durability on this string seems to be very good. Most polys would be moving on me like crazy by now and would have some large notches.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    Control is where this string really leads the pack. I felt very comfortable going for my shots without fear of overhitting. Also, the low power level of the string let you really go after the ball while having great placement. I also enjoyed the control aspects on serve. I may have lost a little speed on serve with the 4G, but I made up for it with placement.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension?)
    I might even try a tension in the mid 40's with this string. It holds tension well enough to try that and I dont think you would lose the great control characteristics at that tension.

    General comments (please summarize likes and dislikes):
    I loved the feel & control the string offered and I didnt mind that it was low powered, but for me the lack of spin potential was a disappointment. There are a lot of poly's coming out these days and it seems that they all share the common trait of easily being able to produce topspin. This string did not. I really had to crank up the racket head speed to be able to produce the heavy FH and kick serve I am used to getting with my usual set up. With that lacking the 4G wouldnt be my first choice for a poly. If that changed and they decided to make a rough version, I would definetly try it again. The 4G did not offer the same amount of power as the string I typically use, but I dont think that it hurt my game and it definetly helped my control. The 4G also felt much more plush than my Spiky Shark. All in all, I think it is a great string in the right hands. A good player with a live arm and big game would benefit from using 4G. A friend of mine with that type of game hit a few balls with my frame and loved the string. He typically uses ALU Power and was very interested in purchasing some 4G.


    Thanks TW and Luxilon for the great opportunity to test this string!
     
  28. Rjtennis

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    4G Playtest Review

    Accidently posted my review twice...sorry.
     
  29. MarinaHighTennis

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    Full set or hybrid
    Full
    Tension used for playtest
    53
    Regular string set up
    Full Solinco Outlast 16
    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Wilson KPro Tour
    Power of test string
    It was very high powered. In comparison to the Solinco Outlast I would say it was exactly the same in terms of power. However, it wasn't overpowered where balls will be sprayed everywhere.
    Feel
    It had very bad feel. It felt very stiff and when I hit the ball it kind of rattles (what I feel/think). This is its only downside. If it weren't for the feel, I would've thought it exactly as the Solinco Outlast.
    Spin
    There was easy access to spin but the greatest thing was its versatility. I could hit flat when i wanted to and put extreme amounts of spin on it too.
    Comfort
    Like I said in feel it felt very uncomfortable wheras Solinco Outlast was very comfortable. It seems to shudder my wrist and arm when I hit the ball but the result was exactly the same I get with Outlast except that it feels horrible when i hit the ball.
    Durability
    I've only hit with it for 3 hours so I can't say anything about the durability but since it plays very similiar to Outlast, I'd say that it seems very long lasting as well.
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable)
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)

    n/a
    Compare to the string you use most often
    It produced exactly the same results as Outlast. Great spin versatility, power, etc. Volleys and serve were very sound too. However the fell was HORRIBLE!!! It would have been exactly like the Outlast except different colors if t weren't for the bad feel.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    48-54. Due to the stiff feel. I recomend making the tension as low as possible.
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    I liked the result that came from when I hit the ball
    Power was great
    Spin potential was great as well
    Volleys and serve were sound

    BUT THE FEEL WAS VERY STIFF AND HORRIBLE. Just because of the feel, I absolutely cannot switch to this strings no matter how well I hit with them.
     
  30. Cup8489

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    Sorry for the time it took me to get this posted.. but hhere it is!


    Full set or hybrid: Full Set

    Tension used for playtest: 52 LBs

    Regular string set up: Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough 17

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Microgel Extreme MP

    Power of test string: Not sure exactly how to explain this. It certainly isn't as high powered as the Big Hitter Blue Rough that I usually play with, but that is a good thing. I could swing confidently with the frame and still count on the ball to land in. I know I wasn't rushing by hitting partners as often as I do with my primary string setup, but because of the additional control, I could work the angles better than normal. This led to some creativity on my part, and a willingness to stretch the court that I normally dont have. I normally try to use the power provided by the frame to hit through the court, but with this string I was far more willing to move the ball around and construct points, with great consistency.

    Feel: About what is to be expected from a Luxilon Poly. This string is meant for heavy spin hitting, not for touch and feel shots. I pride myself on my feel, but this string didn't really help me out very much. I could pull off the shots I am usually able to, but I never found myself saying "WOW, what a slice/dropshot!"

    Spin: Compared to Both my regular string and my favorite Lux (ALU Power), this string isn't as great for the divebombing spin that I'm accustomed to having with Luxilon. It was a little disappointing, I must say, but the string didn't completely die in an hour either. But the spin could certainly have been better, considering Luxilon's reputation in particular for spinny strings.

    Comfort: About what you'd expect from a stiffer Luxilon type poly... definitely not a strong suit of this string IMO. I preferred the BHBR for sure in this department.. But in a more solid or softer frame, I'm sure this wouldn't be much of an issue.

    Durability: Can't speak too much on the durability in terms of how long it goes before breaking, as I'm not much of a stringbreaker. But at 8 hours, it still has some good feel for being Luxilon, and I'm sure I will be able to get about 10 hours before it becomes too dead to play with. Not bad for a Luxilon string.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): Good for a Luxilon string ,but not as good as my preferred setup, for sure. If I was a stringbreaker I'd probably prefer this string over the BHBR, but I am not a stringbreaker. Not bad tension retention for a Lux poly, though.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): As I said before, great control from this string, really let me work the points tactically. Definitely better with faster swings, though.. Anything other than quick racquet speed wasn't getting it done enough with this frame. But that encouraged me to swing freely and quickly with more brushing.. less drive.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Not a bad string for me, but I think I still prefer BHBR (I dunno if I'll ever get away from it, tbh). A good string for longer playability compared to ALU Power, but it doesn't have that trademark divebomb spin that I was hoping/expecting from it. Not sure it's worth the price, but it wasn't a crappy string by any means. Just not sure it should be ranked as highly as ALU Power in all departments except tension retention.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I think around the 50 lbs mark in the frames I use is about right... I would probably string it right at 50 if I had another set. It was a tad stiff at 52 lbs compared to my usual 54lbs with BHBR.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.: As mentioned before, The spin isn't as good as I wanted it to be, and the feel wasn't on par with my regular string, especially considering the price difference. I liked the control and tension maintenance when compared to ALU Power, but it's not so good to ignore the lesser spin potential. But overall, a pretty good string from Lux, but not their best, for sure.
     
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  31. mars76

    mars76 Rookie

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    Full set or hybrid :Hybrid with Gosen OG Sheep Micro 17(Cross)

    Tension used for playtest Main Luxilon-52/Cross Gosen-54

    Regular string set up Pro's Pro Hitec multi with Gosen OG Sheep

    Racquet brand and model used for test  Yonex RD Ti-70 Long

    Power of test string  Decent power. I am able to generate enough power without much effort.When I tried to hit flat I had to control the power as the balls are sailing long if I don't try to put much spin on it.

    Feel  Feel is really good.I can place the ball where ever I want.

    Spin  Spin potential is decent. Again I don't hit heavy top spin. I am happy with the Spin I am getting.

    Comfort  Biggest plus is I didn't feel much pain after hitting for hours. May be this string is really soft. This String has excelled in this category.

    Durability  I don't break poly's that often. I was breaking the multi's after one hour of constant hitting. So durability is obviously better than multis. But whether I am able to have the same comfort over the period of time has to be seen.

    Tension maintenance  I didn't notice much loss of tension.

    Control Good control on the flat shots. The racquet i use is control oriented racquet and even with my regular setup i have very good control.
    this string didn't change control of my shots.

    Compare to the string you use most often  There are certain positives like spin potential when compared to my regular setup. The durability is a plus and comfort level is also really good

    Tension recommendations  I have been using the 52lb mains/54lb crosses.

    Summary:

    Overall I liked the string. How ever I need to play few more times before deciding on switching to this String.
     
  32. ChadW

    ChadW Rookie

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    My First Playtest

    Thanks to TW and Luxillon for the opportunity to test this string and the bonus T-shirt (now I just need to lose 20 pounds to fit into it).

    I'm the new owner of a (very) old Ektelon Stringing Machine, and so I'm still experimenting with various strings to find something I'd like to stick with. So, as a green stringer, and greener reviewer, here's my opinion of the Luxilon Playtest String:

    Full set or hybrid: I set this up as a full set

    Tension used for playtest: 56 main/53 crosses using a close out crank Ektelon Model DE with a Model H upgrade kit.

    Regular string set up: I've been experimenting with a lot of various polyester set ups. Most recently Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 @ 53 pounds. Also have tried hybriding polys (Solinco Tour Bite, Mamba Gear Twisted, and Gosen Sheep Micro or Dunlop Hexy Fibre.)

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Youtek Speed MP 16x19 with lead on the handle and at 10 and 2 in the hoop.

    Power of test string: I would consider this a low powered polyester string. The gauge is thicker than I've been playing with recently, so there is more control on the bed as a whole. Striking a serve solidly generated a good pop and high reward from the stringbed. Ground strokes hit with high top spin landed deep and my opponents commented on the ball being particularly heavy. Given the low power, I found myself needing to swing hard on every stroke, where I could get away with backing off a little with my other recent set ups.

    Feel: For a polyester string, and because it was a thicker gauge, I think the response was a softer feel than I've experienced recently (aside from my hybrid set ups). Touch volleys would drop quickly and there was no instance of trampolining off the bed.

    Spin: Given that my recent experiments have been with thinner gauged spin oriented polyesters (Big Hitter Black 7, Mamba Black Gear Twisted, and Solinco Tour Bite), the Luxillon didn't offer a spectacular amount of spin. My kick serve wasn't anything special with this set up, but ground strokes had good top spin when struck correctly (and heavily). I noticed the strings always snapped back and even 7 hours in were never out of order. The spin was good for a thicker polyester, but not close to the strings designed specifically for spin.

    Comfort: It is rare that I experience any comfort issues. I'm guessing that the lower tension used here helped to keep that at bay. The stringbed felt great throughout the play test (7 hours).

    Durability: After 7 hours, there's only minimal evidence of string notching (and I mean very minimal). The durability appears to be great. Of course, this is, again, in comparison to a normal set up of thinner, sharp-edged strings.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): I played with the racquet again tonight, and the tension maintenance was strong. In fact, I didn't even think about tension maintenance until I came to write this review and was prompted to think of it. The racquet is still entirely useable, and I imagine has a few hours still left.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I've mentioned this already in my "Power" section, but the string required a quick swing speed from me. When hit solidly and quickly, the ball had great depth. I had no problems (to blame on the string) with predictable trajectory. I had confidence in the ball going where I intended when I struck it cleanly. In the first match I played, I was especially astonished by the pinpoint control on a fully struck return of serve. I was putting balls back at the server's feet with a good strong return swing.

    Compare to the string you use most often: I've compared this throughout, and think that there are too many differences in the string construction's themselves to compare too closely. The test string had more control than my 'normal' thinner, spin-oriented polyester set ups, a bit softer than the edged polys, and comparable pop on my serve.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): If I had a chance, I might try tightening this up a little bit. Though I've been experimenting with lower tension polyester set ups (low-mid 40s), I think I'm ready to give up on that and go back to a high 50 pound range.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.: I enjoyed the confident control I felt with this set up. The depth and heft of my ground strokes were exciting. I do wish I could have generated more spin, and perhaps a thinner gauge would accomplish that. If I were to have a chance to play this string again, I'd try it tighter and with a spin-oriented cross (perhaps my Dunlop Hexy Fibre).
     
  33. nalvarado

    nalvarado Semi-Pro

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    Full set or hybrid: Full bed

    Tension used for playtest 56

    Regular string set up: Right now I use Polystar energy and syn gut at 58.

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Gamma RZR 98T

    Power of test string: It is a low powered control poly through and through.

    Feel:Very soft for a copoly. Comparable to Polystar Energy in some regards but I give the edge to PSE for comfort.

    Spin: The spin factor is about average for a copoly. It is not going to preform miracles for you but spin is on tap if you know how to hit.

    Comfort: Again very soft for a copoly. I had no issues using it full bed coming off a shoulder injury.

    Durability: 8 Hours and still strong

    Tension maintenance: Around the 4-6 hour mark I started noticing a difference in feel from freshly strung, however I have no way of measuring the tension loss.

    Control: It is an extremely fun string that lets you place shots where you want without having to fight it. Control on groundies and volleys alike.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Slight edge to 4G on the spin factor, but I do not believe that this alone would sway me to pay for this string. Power and comfort are about even with the advantage going to Energy/Syn for power and comfort, likely due to the syn in the cross.

    Tension recommendations: I really enjoyed this string at 56, I saw no reason to change this.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes. One of the more comfortable polys out, the string is pretty average for the rest. It does not do one thing exceptionally well but does all things adequately. The only thing that sways me away is the price point.
     
  34. purple-n-gold

    purple-n-gold Professional

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    update

    1st hit this week, 4G raq sat in my hot truck all day, goat string 10+hrs and still going strong, picked up 10 sets:)
     
  35. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus G.O.A.T.

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    So do you think the string plays better after baking in hot temp for 10 hours. should i put it out in the sun for a day then string it ?
     
  36. purple-n-gold

    purple-n-gold Professional

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    nah, really liked the 4G the more I played it..great feel, playabilty and tension maintenance...will report back when I cut it out, doesn't look like it's gonna be anytime soon
     
  37. swfh

    swfh Rookie

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    Hit with 4g again today, in an important match. Sadly, the spin was gone, and it became somewhat of cannon. It's not a bad string, but it is not something that I would use. I think that isospeed baseline spin is a better string overall. I think that this is really meant for the pros, who have the luxury of changing rackets every set
     
  38. SOY78

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    Full set or hybrid: I set this up as a full set

    Tension used for playtest: 50# on a Gamma Progression FC .

    Regular string set up: Multi mains and poly crosses.

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Volkl C10 Pro Tour.

    Power of test string: I would consider this a mid powered poly string. I had lots of control and power hitting a rare out. Mostly I've painted the lines with this string with good speed on the ball.

    Feel: Feel with a poly is something to found very rare. I'd say the feel of this string is a medium type feel with ok touch on the volleys.

    Spin: Spin with this string was great, since my regular setup is multi mains and poly crosses this 4G had a little more spin then my reg setup. A lot of balls my opponent let go because he thought they would go out but at the last second they would drop right in.

    Comfort: Not the most comfortable string out there, but for a poly it is ok. I was feeling a tinge in my elbow, but maybe it was because I didn't play full poly in a while.

    Durability: After 2 hours of singles they are a little notched but not too much. I haven't popped a poly string in a long long time. So far this has a lot of life left.

    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable): So far it has been very good. But more time will tell.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): Control is one of my favorites pros for this string. I was able to put a lot of spin and power on the ball and it would still land in. I had amazing serves down the T and out wide most of them landing in. Incredible angles were something else, just wow.

    Compare to the string you use most often: It's like comparing apples to oranges but I will try to compare. Of course my multi/poly hybrid pops much faster than the full 4G and it is much softer than 4G. But 4G has a lot more spin and control compared to my regular setup.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I'd lower the tension to like 40's where I never tried a string that low of tension just to get the comfort up a little.

    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.: I liked the control and spin that I got with this 4G and the free T-Shirt of course ;) What I didn't like is the comfort but hey this is a poly and I was expecting that for sure.


    Thanks TW for the playtest.
     
  39. pvaudio

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    Curious that you say that a string that is less than 1/5 of the price is better overall. I do agree with you, but just curious that you'd compare it to the ultimate budget poly and say that the Lux is worse.
     
  40. swfh

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    Only compared it with the baseline because that is what I currently have in my frames. Iontec, and any of the tourna offerings are better than 4g
     
  41. db10s

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    Thing is, Lux can still sell them with BIG profit because of marketing and by lack of consumer knowledge.
     
  42. stecken71

    stecken71 New User

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    Full set or hybrid: full set.
    Tension used for playtest: 56 lbs
    Regular string set up: Solinco Tour Bite 17
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Tecnifibre TFight 320 VO2 max
    Power of test string: Low to low moderate
    Feel: Felt like a cross between Lux Ace and Pro Hurricane Tour 18 gauge
    Spin: High kick serves, but lower trajectory on my Western groundies
    Comfort: Smooth and stiff like Pro Hurricane Tour
    Durability: Don't know, seems like the coating would last. Sold the racquet to my friend.
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) Not sure, my friend has the racquet now.
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) High amount of control, like the other testers noted. For a hard hitter, not for the pusher.
    Compare to the string you use most often: Pro Hurricane Tour
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I might drop it down to 53 or 54.
    Summary: I would like this string for tournaments where I would want control on all my shots and if I were to hit flatter drives. But for regular club play, sometimes I would want the spin and trajectory of Solinco Tour Bite or Barb Wire. I wouldn't pay beyond $15 a set. But even then, I think I would rather use Alu Rough, for a touch more spin. I can get Pro Hurricane Tour for 9.99 a set and I don't know if the extra resiliency is worth $5+ more.
    I apologize for the late review. I received the string a little later due to my address. Thank you for the chance to try the string, TW/Luxilon.
     
  43. blastforehand

    blastforehand Rookie

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    Finally got to hit with the new Luxilon 4G as provided by the Tennis Warehouse playtest. I had a tournament to prepare for and didn't have the court time to fool around with a new string. I compared it directly with a fresh set of my usual string, Tourna Poly Big Hitter Blue Rough 16 gauge.

    Full set of each.

    52 pounds for the Luxilon 4G, 54 pounds for the Blue Rough. I have used a lot of Luxilon Alu Power smooth 1.25 in the past, mostly stringing at 52. During stringing on my Alpha Revo with Wise tension head I immediately noted the 4G was much stiffer than the Blue Rough, stretching approximately 15mm less than the stretchy Blue Rough on the mains. I also noted on opening the package that the 4G felt slightly sticky to my hands.

    Racquets used were Head Extreme Pro IG. This is a fairly stiff players racquet with a very wide 16x19 pattern. String spacing is even wider on the IG than the original Microgel Extreme Pro 16x19. With my swing and spin it eats strings "extremely." Blue Rough hits good enough for about an hour of hard practice (more for most matches) and snaps from saw through in 90 minutes to 2 hours.

    Court was red clay. Practice partner was my usual, a 4.5 who is improving rapidly.

    My initial impression was that the 4G is a great string. Very satisfying acoustics, great control, plenty of spin, easy on the arm. Loved it. After 15 minutes of hard groundstroking I switched to the fresh set of Blue Rough 16 gauge. It felt pretty good also. I didn't have much trouble adjusting back and forth. Launch angles seemed similar, although I didn't test for low short balls where launch angle really comes into play.

    After about 30 to 40 minutes of hitting with the 4G I noted the mains were no longer snapping back into place like I prefer. Still hit okay though.

    Power levels between the 4G and Blue Rough seemed roughly similar, with a slight edge to the Blue Rough (note the tension differential.) If I strung up the 4G again I might try 50 pounds.

    Feel. I am not a big believer in "feel" as having much to do with shotmaking, since the ball is gone from the stringbed long before any feedback from the hand can reach the brain, much less analysis of such feedback performed by the brain and sent back to the hand or arm. However, I will say both strings felt great, no undue shock or vibration. I would give an edge to the 4G. I might describe it as a solid and strong feel. Loved the "thwack" sound.

    Both strings provided plenty of diving spin when properly struck.

    Comfort of both strings was excellent. I have been working hard on seeing the ball big and hitting more cleanly, so comfort is not an issue for me currently. If I shanked serves as I have in the past and see all around (Please dear tennis player, keep your head up and, more than that, really "see" the ball so your brain has a chance to figure out where the ball is, and I don't have to feel your service shank pain) my arm would be in danger of falling off with any string.

    Durability is a disappointment for me. After about 40 minutes of hard groundstroking (and I am pretty consistent) the 4G is notched through at least 30%. The Blue Rough after hitting and one quick set (6-3 me) totaling about 70 minutes is notched at least 50% through and about to snap.

    I am guessing I can get another half hour of good enough hitting from the 4G. The Blue Rough will be cut out, as usual.

    My guess is the durability issue is due to the extreme string spacing of the Extreme Pro IG. String life might double with an 18 main string racquet.

    Snapback durability. There is some, but not a lot of snapback left in the 4G as determined by my fingers pushing hard against the mains. There is of course none left in the Blue Rough. Newly strung the 4G had much more snapback from finger push than the Blue Rough.

    Overall I really like the new Luxilon 4G.

    Analysis and conclusion. Fresh poly is much better than any used up poly, which is useless to me. Fresh premium poly like Luxilon 4G ($245/reel) may be some few percent better than fresh Blue Rough 16 gauge ($80/reel.) If I were playing more seriously premium poly like Luxilon 4G or Alu Power could be worthwhile. Premium poly might also be more worthwhile if I were using a more tightly spaced 18 main string racquet.

    I wish Blue Rough came in a thicker gauge. The present so-called 16 gauge Blue Rough feels thin to me, like a 1.25mm or less. Although I don't have a lot of time for string testing, I may try a few other polys this fall, perhaps in 1.30mm.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2012
  44. SOY78

    SOY78 Semi-Pro

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    I really like this 4G. The more I play with it the more I like it :)
     
  45. djNEiGht

    djNEiGht Professional

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    I'm happily surprised at how good it's playing still. Granted I'm playing 90% doubles...
     
  46. IowaHawksFan

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    Lux string test

    I haven't had a chance to play with the 4G, as I just switched to the Babolat PDR+ and had TW string. I have since cut out the string and have to say stringing the 4G is a pleasure - very little stretching and of course easy through the grommets. I will report on playing performance in a week.
     
  47. Tennisguy3000

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    Thanks for you reviews everyone. Looking forward to some updates in regards to how the string performs after some time & arm friendlines (tennis elbow).

    Cheers ~ TG
     
  48. db10s

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    still a bit late....
     
  49. novak.20v

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    Damn, I just noticed this thread, wish I could have participated.
    Will there be any future play-test soon?
     
  50. IowaHawksFan

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    Full set or hybrid - Full
    Tension used for playtest - 50lb
    Regular string set up - Bab Hurricane Tour
    Racquet brand and model used for test - Babolat PD Roddick+
    Power of test string - average, liked the power after hitting for about a half an hour
    Feel - average, but what do you expect for a poly
    Spin - very good
    Comfort - same as other full set polys
    Durability - only used for 2 weeks, not a fair test, only played twice
    Tension maintenance (how long before it became too loose or unplayable) -
    fine so far, but only used for 2 weeks
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) - above average, for a poly this was my biggest surprise of the playtest
    Compare to the string you use most often - similar, but I liked the control over other polys
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) - 50lb seems good so far
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    Would seriously consider buying, if the price is right
     

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