2012 NCAA Men's Doubles Tournament

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  1. TopDawg

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  2. Clemson_tennis

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    The only real interest I have in this tournament is pulling against the Hunter Reese/Mikelis Libietis team.
     
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    That's kind of pathetic.
     
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    @TopDawg do you know why there is no live feed on Court 11? So disappointing - not that it's your fault at all - just wondering?
     
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    I'm not a fan of the Vols tennis team.
     
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    Kinda figured!
     
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    Why so intense? They're just kids, after all.
     
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    They are peers to me
     
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    I wanted desperately to go to Clemson, but my parents made me go to UT. Now I just live by the old Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young song: Love the one you're with. And I really hate that you hate our team so much. Now I sound pathetic :) but I think we all need to support each other - college tennis gets so little love! Sending good thoughts your way Clemson_tennis!
     
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    Ahhhhhh! I thought you were old like me! That does make a difference. But still - doesn't do you any good to hate!
     
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    Ok well here is the thing. When certain players on the Vol team take things to the social media, then this is what happens, in reference to my most annoying list on the Clemson tennis thread(which you know I state up front it was more of a for fun thing). Plus I didn't even put Tennessee #1.

    Plus I have always liked Texas Tech's team and that's who Reese and Libietis are playing against.
     
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    That's true. I respect every player in college tennis at that level even if I pull for some over others. People don't realize how much these guys work and how much pressure they face. It really is a great sport that I try and get peope to get interested in.

    also whenever a college player tries there hand at the pros I support them even I was not their biggest fan in college. Like I was not a fan of Rhyne Williams but now I wish him the best in the ATP. And if Cunha decides to go pro I will support him even though I am not his fan right now.
     
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    I saw that list and I admit that I thought it was pretty funny! But you think FB is different than this forum? Because it was an exclusively Clemson thread? Most guys would respond, though, don't you think? And was it just a sliiiiiight exaggeration to say that Hunter said whatever it was 5 or 6 times each point? That WOULD be insane and pretty hard to do! Did you hate our team before that?
     
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    Honestly I have a hard time pulling for Rhyne bc of his attitude on court in college and in the pros. I don't know him at all, but everyone always says he's a great guy off the court. But doesn't everyone say that about everyone? The other two Vols who are out there seem like great guys.

    Thanks for dialoguing! Class!
     
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    I wasn't a big fan of the team before that with Williams and Sandgren(I have no problem with Smith). And the Reese thing was not the only reason, that would be silly. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that thhat was our most gut-wrenching loss of the season and set the tone for the whole year. I will give it to Reese for apologizing to our #1 dubs team after Libietis said something like "you will never win" after the match had been called when we had 6-4 in the tiebreak. I am not a huge fan of Winterbotham either and he was trying all match to get Yannick Maden point penalties even though it was Libietis who was doing things like throwing his raquet and such. I mean they are an intense team which is fine because IMO they over-achieved this year and will be prtety good next season if they can get better depth. There is only one guy in the SEC I genuinely dislike personally(he plays for SC) no need to go into details there.
     
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    I appreciate you taking the time to answer. It's all intense all the time! And unfortunately, you might be getting your wish in this doubles match. Not a good showing. Hopefully we will have better depth next year. And I hope Clemson does great next year as well. Can we be friends now? haha!
     
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    It's good to hate players and teams. That gives tennis the same respect as the other college sports. If everyone is nice guy George all the time then the sport will never advance. Villains are needed, rivalries are needed. I mean does anyone ever get upset when someone hated JJ Redick in the day or Tim Tebow? It's part of intense sport.

    It's good to hate players
     
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    Thank you Vicious Vik. I now see the light and will hate players. What would I have done with you?
     
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    Thank you Vicious Vik. I now see the light and will hate players. What would I have done without you?
     
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    Thank you Vicious Vik! I will now start hating players. What would I have done without your wisdom?
     
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    There's a difference between respecting and liking a player.
     
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    What is going on with Klahn and Thacher ? No score has been reported yet and all the courts are done for the night.
     
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    Good job guys.

    Complete failure by the Georgia Bulldogs as hosts as far as the scoreboards are concerned. The match has been over fo almost an hour and for over an hour and a half, the scoreboard has Nevolo/Kalmanovich winning the third. Actually, Rola/Buchanan won to advance. I consider Georgia as one of the leading schools in tennis, but as long as the leaders of college tennis can't get their act together, college tennis will continue to to schools cutting tennis. Not impressed Georgia at all. Complete and utter failure.
     
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    Guys, seriously, STOP blaming the University and the tennis team for scoreboard incompetency. You don't know who's working the things or any of that. The umpires are terrible at doing those things right, and I don't know how things move from the court to scoreboard to internet, but the problem as far as I know is at the source.
     
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    The school is the host right? Get some guys who know how to do it, put in working scoreboards, or stop hosting. Simple as that. Georgia failed big time in this area. Sad because they are supposed to be the "mecca" of tennis. Or so I've heard. Not so much I think.

    Illinois is supposed to be hosting next year, but I'm afraid it's going to be even worse than this year. The whole system is a mess and nobody can figure out how to fix it.

    And we wonder why schools are cutting tennis. Could one reason be because fans are not interested in a sport that can't even keep score?
     
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    The REFEREES keep score at each court. The buttons they press are put directly up on the scoreboard, which in turn is linked to the webcams and livestats. Georgia can't decide who sits in the chair, nor can they make them press the right buttons and use the system properly. It's all user error. I don't know how many times I saw an umpire put the score on the wrong set, or go past the correct score and just leave it there, or not change the score for points at a time.

    And let's also not forget that all of us following the scores online are NOT people who the NCAA really cares about catering too. It's the people paying for tickets, and that's where most of the attention goes. I'm sure they'd like live scoring to go off without a hitch, but I seriously doubt it's a priority.
     
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    While usually the mistakes on the scoreboard sin the stadium are caused by the umpire, the delays in the online scoring live stats are mostly network and IT issues.

    And further, the way you describe how often it happens, you're exaggerating. People said the same thing last year at Stanford, and it's not as bad as some moron on tennis warehouse describes it.

    With these scoring devices, which run off the wifi network on site, reset in the middle of the match but the spectators don't know it. The scoreboard may say 6-3, 4-0 15-15. It may actually be 40-30, and then we look at the scoring device and it says 0-0, 0-0. Well when that happens there's too much going on in a game to fix it then so it may take till the changeover to fix.

    So many things that you don't know from sitting in the bleachers.

    Yes sometimes the umpire will hit the button one too many times, and sometimes they don't realize it. Or maybe they do but it can wait a few points to fix.

    But more of it has to do with the system and network than you realize.
     
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    It's just sad and pathetic. Every year we hear about schools cutting tennis. Why? Because it is a sport that still has no workable system. The NCAA only cares about people in the stands? Maybe that's true, but there are thousands of fans out there with no way of following the sport besides the broken down system we have now. This has always bothered me but today it hit home personally. And it's not just the referees. The whole scoreboard system they use is worthless. It will be awhile before a I take a score for granted again. If Georgia has no responsibility in the scare-keeping, then they need to take charge if they are hosting the thing. Makes everyone involved look incompetent. And if Georgia has these many problems, I shudder to think what it will be like at Illinois next year. Being their first year to host, there is no way it's going to be any better than Georgia. And that is a sad thought.
     
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    You also have to think about the families of the foreign players who are likely following it at home. Must be very frustrating to constantly get incorrect and unrelaible scores in a match featuring their son/daughter.
     
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    well thanks for describing some of the most passionate college tennis fans that way.
     
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    I was only describing one that way.
     
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    Could it be Klahn and Thacher vs Johnson and Quiroz in the finals ? That could be exciting final. Bring it on.
     
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    Quiroz/Stevie J retire down a 6-3 3-2. No mention of anyone being hurt, I think they did it to conserve Stevie's energy for singles tomorrow
     
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    It would consistently happen 2 or 3 times per dual match. I don't know if that's a lot. I personally did not care, because all I had to do was look at the physical scoreboard on each court and listen for the score. All those watching online though about have an aneurysm when the score is wrong or delayed.

    And I'm not bashing referee's, Im just sticking up for the school. I could tell when something was wrong with the system, because the whole thing would reset. That happens. But when they would do things like put the tiebreaker in the 2nd set score, or put the incorrect score up, everyone seemed to notice and complain.

    I also never saw a significant delay in online scores. The only time I saw this happen was if the game was over, but the umpire did not change the game score throughout the changeover, so it had the appearance of being delayed online.

    Not attacking YOU woody, just giving my observations and thoughts. The things people were complaining about mostly had to do with mistakes made at the chair or issues with that individual umpire and his system, accidental, understandable, or otherwise.
     
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    Going to be interesting today to see if Rola/Buchanan can win the triple crown of college tennis. They already have the All-American and ITA Indoors doubles titles. No one has ever done it before. John Isner won all three in different years and Sargis Sargsian won all in different years in singles but no one or team has won all three in the same year.
     
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    Whatever happened to Mr. Sargis Sargsian ? Haven't heard much about him after he turned pro.
     
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    For what its worth I think the NCAA do a terrible job in just about everything other than lining their own pockets. I expect the worst in everything they do.
     
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    He's been retired for a while. He got up to #38 in the world in 2004
     
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    Agreed. It's a pretty sad organization. They need to move the NCAA to October and the All-American to May.
     
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    Doubles final moving indoors - fitting way to end this tournament
     
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    I agree they didn't do the best job, but lining their own pockets? How did this make them any money?
     
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    It sure doesn't seem like they spent much.
     
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