2013 Aeropro Drive or Juice 100?

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  1. cptjello

    cptjello New User

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    Hey folks -

    I'm having some serious trouble deciding between the Babolat Aeropro Drive (2013) and the Wilson BLX Juice 100. Both fit the specs I like, and both seem like great racquets for me game. However - from people who have played with them, ideally played with both, which would you choose?! I've demoed the Juice and liked it a lot, and am soon to demo the Babolat. From play experience however, which one do you like better? Also - with each, what string setups do you run, or would be ideal in terms of comfort and good balance of playability, control, with some power as well?

    Thanks a ton in advance!

    Best,

    Cpt Jello
     
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  2. Ross K

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    I haven't played the APD 2013, used the black "Originals", so this is informing everything I say when talking about the APD, but I'd say if primarily you want spin/power/high trajectory baseline orientated game, go APD. If you'd like maybe a bit more precision, touch and control go J100.

    To be honest though, they are highly similar. Both stiff powerful tweener raqts (though my APD Originals were "relatively" soft, and even the Juice, though stiff, wasn't quite as jarring as, say, a PD). Both prone to 'launching' if technique not on point... BTW, I played APD Original on and off for a few years before detouring briefly to the Juice.

    The APD just is unique in its booming effortless g/strokes and with that big beam. However, I find it relatively one-dimensional (but in that one dimension, it's kind of peerless. :wink:)... Oh, and the J serves better for me and swings very fast, and as I said, it's more precise and controlled.

    Set up-wise, I'm not sure how much use my background could be to you, but I'm mainly full poly @ 50 lbs, though experimented a bit tension-wise going lower, and indeed stringwise, hybriding poly/Nvy quite a few times.... I had my APD set up with (allowing for slight variations) 6g in b/cap and 3 @ 12 for ages. Liked that polarized thing in this frame a lot.... Later I started trying to play minus any lead (and going into 40 lbs terrain), this extended to my time with the J. TBH the results were inconclusive for me. I also personally now think the J needs lead more than the APD, if that makes sense.
     
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  3. pkshooter

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    Aero drive = bumble bee
    Juice = what the he!! Was Wilson thinking, who said the candy man needed a new job barfing on rackets.
     
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  4. cptjello

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    I appreciate the input. Have you every tried Volkl Cyclone 16 strings? I've read some reviews and heard great things about them. If I was to put them in the new Aeropro Drive, what tension should I use for a full bed? Anybody have any experience with this setup?
     
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  5. Ross K

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    I found Cyclone a bit mushy in my APD but that's just me. Plus in retrospect, I maybe strung it too low. It's very popular for ppl wanting a softer poly experience though, so you should maybe investigate it if research shows it to sound like your kind of a thing. As with strings, no-one can really tell what tension you should use, but as I said before, I personally liked low 50's.
     
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  6. El Zed

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    Look into the Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 (17 or 16 work, although I prefer the 17) - I preferred it to the Genesis B.M. and the Dunlop B.W., both which were better than the Cyclone in the APDgt.
     
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  7. Rafaboy

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    I have both rackets, and the APD 2013 feels bigger. J100 feels
    easier to handle, almost like a cross between the 2012 PD and a Youtek instinct.

    For me, I have not reached a stage where the APD seems to dissapear when you play(you forget about the racket and just play instinctively)

    With the J100, i have often reached that stage, where you dont even think about the racket , and youre just hitting with your eyes.
     
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  8. cptjello

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    Interesting... I'm hopefully going to have a chance to demo the APD 13 on Wednesday - we'll see! @Rafa - how do you run either racket?
     
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  9. cptjello

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    Hey guys - to restart this thread - which racket is stiffer? I've noticed some discrepancies in the stiffness rating between websites and such. Is the APD more or less stiff than the Juice? Which one is more arm friendly?
     
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  10. Rafaboy

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    The J100 is more arm friendly. the APD is more powered. My APD setup w/cyclones tour17or 18(red)@ 52#, (with a 55# (original yellow)setup it was too overpowered.)

    My J100 setup Cyclones 17or 18(original yellow)@55#
     
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  11. NetNinja68

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    The APD has a bit more power but is a bit more jarring to the arm. Add lead to the J100 and you get the same power with better feel than the APD.
     
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  12. sundaypunch

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    Agreed. The main benefit of the Juice is the foam-filled frame. This makes it much more solid feeling than the APD.
     
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  13. Hi I'm Ray

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    Did they juice up the APD2013 with more power than the PD? The Juice 100 was more powerful than PD when I tried it, both were leaded up. I think the J100 is the most powerful 100sq in frame I have ever used. The APD+2013 didn't have the punch I was expecting when I tried it.

    Is that maybe the Juice Pro? The 2 Juice 100 demos I got from TW were both hollow inside.
     
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  14. Shaochieh

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    try yonex ezone xi 98 a controllable powerful racket than your other two choices.
     
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  15. sundaypunch

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    Good question. My Blades and 6.1 100 are foam filled so I assumed the Juice was also. My daughter has one but I never popped off the butt cap to check. They must be hollow if you have checked them.
     
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  16. Ross K

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    + 1 on this, Ray. Actually I did find the J100 could easily go into rocket launcher mode. Get the string-job slightly wrong, or when tension dropped just fractionally - boom!...:)

    FWIW, stock, I found the PD more solid. I'd guess the APD 13 to have that upgrade in solidness also.
     
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  17. Hi I'm Ray

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    Weird thing is that the current 6.1 Team is 10.7oz strung and the handle is filled with foam, I'm guessing the rest of the frame is too. Yet the heavier Juice, which seems to have some extra tail weighting, is hollow.
     
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  18. sundaypunch

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    Yes, I finally popped the butt cap off today and it's hollow. I'm not sure why they chose to do this? My daughter also has a Pro Open and I see that has foam.
     
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  19. AceRad

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    If I put foam inside the handle would that make the ADP less jarring?
     
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