Discussion in 'Racquets' started by gavna, May 27, 2012.
Maybe so. But this list is not correct then.
Mid-west has Aeroprodrive 2013 swingweight as 329. how do you explain that ? they just don't know how to measure SW ?
I think the answer there is that variations in weight and in the placement of the weight along the racquet frame, when combined with variations in balance point, are reasonably small changes that can have a big effect on swingweight.
in order for there to be this much difference in SW, Babolat has to have suckiest quality control in history of tennis. This company is one of the most cherished tennis mfg in history of tennis. Can you confirm that with Eric Babolat ?
Even Wilson has much better quality control than that.
I'm reluctant to buy Wilsons because of spec issues, but havent had a problem with Babolat.
But i've found Babolat to have build issue qualities.
I find Nike to have build issue qualities so people buy a brand for all sorts of reasons.
If you haven't found babolat to have spec issues, then how do you explain this much variance in swingweight in aeropro drive 2013 ?
Hmmm, maybe that is the case. While it did come out in the 2nd year of the last model, that was the first time they had done a RG model. I assumed they would continue with them.
I haven't bought enough multiple copies of the same Babolat racquet is the simple explanation.
There have been other examples of racquets coming in with unusual swingweights, but this Babolat crop may be a little unusual.
In any event, both the pd and apd are swinging on the light side unless you get lucky or unlucky.
Aero Storms are going to be out 2014...heard from tw representative. They are coming out with purestorms.. going back to red?
Just watched the aeropro drive 2013 video
I dont like the paintjob since it deviates too far from the original.
WOW. that is funky. Rafa saids cool, nice racket so it must be Super
I hope so, im planning on buying it. Deciding if i should get this or the pure drive 2012. So how do you like the paint job on this new aero?
Demoed this yesterday, and had to buy it. Current racquet is 2010 APD,and this one felt a tad more solid. It also felt a little lighter, and the matte paint job is very cool.
Just had an email, will be getting my 2 new sticks and bags tomorrow
How'd you get them early?
anyone notice the new babolat logo for the stencil?
What does new bag look like?
Here are the bags:http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Aero_Line_Tennis_Bags_Pre-Sale/descpageBGBAB-BABAB.html
100 bucks for a 9 racket bag, you can not be serious. This is getting out of hand.
Yeah, not a big fan of it. Works on the butt cap but not on the strings. Guess i wont be needing stencil ink
these bags don't look as good as before:???:
Agree completely. Glad my yellow one is still in good shape. I'd buy one of those again before the new ones.
i think that was one of the first things you notice. i like it and have put it on my pro opens.
good thing is you dont need a stencil to do the logo
The shop I got them from had their delivery in yesterday, dispatched them the same day and they arrived with me today!
Went for a hit after work, immediate thoughts...
L2 grip size still feels like a L3 wilson. Definitely feels like the sweet spot is smaller on these compared to the last, but the good news is that they feel more solid as well.
Defintely noticed some kind of difference in the SW, also it feels like the weight is further towards the handle when swinging than the last one.
But yeah, excited about the new stick! Needs a bit of lead tape under the bumper to bring that balance back to how I like it but yeah!
The 3 racquet bag is cool as well, perfect size for casual hitting/training etc. I hate lugging about 6 or 12 racquet bags when you dont really need all that extra gear.
One thing I have found with the black strings is how do you get the logo looking good with the babolat white paint? Always looks messy to me... Infact it looked so terrible the first time I tried it I ended up scratching it off and leaving it.
Cool, got mine from my local shop as well, so hopefully they get theirs in a few days early.
Oh man I like this stick.
Played a few sets today, won every one to 4 or better.
Shots are deeper and harder, much more spin than I remember. Feels really solid, that plastic feel from the last one has gone. Love it!
Can't wait to get mine. What did you string yours with?
More spin and shots seem harder = the SW is lower, the racquet is stiffer and the poster is getting more racquet speed.
Just played my 1st set demo - won 6-1 against a better player than me, who i would never imagine I'd get up by so much ( in fairness he had an off day after playing a competition yesterday). Have been an ardent PD user 10+ years, and I will now add this 2013 APD to my stable of PD's.
It just felt "right" to me........enough power, felt it played less stiff than the 2012 PD, nice access to top spin ( maybe in my head, but the 6-1 result speaks for itself), felt inspired by the control and really was able to feel like I could construct a point and rally away........
It was simply fun to play with. I play next 3 days with it, so we'll see if it was the allure of a dalliance or not!
RPM Blast at 56lbs, I felt a lot more pop off the racquet and it feels more powerful but this could all be to do with the new strings, so I didn't feel the need to mention it.
Kinda pissed that they changed up the logo. Doing the two stripes was so much easier.
Well, it seems the honeymoon with the 2013 APD might be over for me. Feeling some elbow tenderness, so I am borrowing my wife's Volkl Organix V1 MP (affectionately nicknamed the turd) for some social doubles tonight. If it works, I might be picking one up. Love the new APD, it just doesn't seem to love me.
What do you have your APD strung with?
Thats what a dose of APD will do to you. :cry:
I'm not sure if I want to go with the 2013 version of the APD or the Wilson Steam 99S. I've been an avid APD user for years and I've kind of built my game with this racquet since I was a 3.0. I'd customize the racquet similarly to the APDGT but maybe an inch more lead at the 3 and 9 on the 2013 edition due to the lower swing weight. The stiffness rating was never an issue for me even while stringing poly at 63 pounds mains and 64 crosses, I've never experienced arm pain. I no longer string this high anymore, I dropped it 5 pounds to 58/59.
DEMO.... And see if you can hold onto your arm.
After using my wife's Organix V1 MP last night, it looks like I am moving away from the APD. It is a great racquet, and I am somewhat jealous of those who use it. For me, unfortunately, it is just a smidge too stiff. But what a great serving, powerful racquet. You guys enjoy it, and I'll enjoy my new Organix V1 (affectionately nicknamed the turd).
Have you used full gut or gut/poly? Ive read that Pacific Classic Gut mains and MSV CoFocus crosses is a great setup and it should soften the APD considerably. If that does not work then you can dismiss the APD.
I was using full multi (Head RIP Control 17), so that should be as soft as anything.
Also check out the Dunlop F 3.0 Tour, if you can. I found that it plays similar to an Aero Pro Drive, but is much softer and has more control. Surprising pop and spin for an 18x20.
I have not used RIP Control but Ive read that it is not the softest multi. Try full gut, (Pacific Classic gut or Babolat Tonic gut) or hybrid gut mains with multi as a cross string to pay less. Mantis Comfort Synthetic and Babolat Excel Premium are soft polys that you can also consider either full jobs or as cross strings. Genesis Thunderblast Ive read is a good and soft multi as well.
I have played the APD for quite some time. I have tried everything in it but was hesitant to try gut because I thought it would be too powerful. I gave Pacific Classic / CoFocus a try and couldn't be happier. I have it strung at 58/54 and it is perfect for me. I can swing out as hard as I want and the spin keeps the ball in. It is so much better than any of the full poly jobs that I have tried (at tensions from 40lbs - 60lbs). It is so much better feeling than anything else I have tried in the APD including Rip Control.
I put Pacific Classic / Lux. 4g in my backup racquet at the same tension. Too stiff and not enough power or spin. It's possible I would like it at a lower tension. At this point I will probably just stick with the Classic / Co Focus.
There you go. Dont quit yet on the APD Arlihawk.
Demoed it once, just couldnt serve with it. Too much of a round head for me. I like to serve with Dunlop oval or Yonex squarish. My 1hbh didnt feel right either.
It does do windshield wiper forehands better than any racquet I have ever tried. Top notch looks.
Its funny, for me the APD is the only racquet that doesnt give me any joint pain. Strung with full RPM.
I played with supposedly softer, more flexible racquets that caused me a world of hurt.
I am totally in love with the 2013 APD plus. Never thought I would like an extended length racquet, but this one is awesome.
I am really confused about this. from my experience, Aeropro drive is much easier on the arm than the Pure drives. I was surprised how much less arm pain I had with the New aeropro 2013 than after hitting with Pure drive I use.
I agree as well. Just played a weekend tournament, 4 matches, with the new APD and not an ounce of pain in my arm. Have it strung with a hybrid with RPM and basic nylon. I then hit for two hours with a Prestige MP an my elbow was screaming. I found this odd as everything I read says it should be the opposite. Even get some tenderness from my very flexible IG Rad Pro. I'm thinking of trying out a full bed in the APD to try my luck and see if it still feels comfy with some better control.
Think it's fair to say everyone has different experiences. The 2010 version treats me fine, but the 2013 doesn't work. This seems counter intuitive, since the 2013 is supposed to be better on the arm. I appreciate it is a great racquet, it's just not the racquet for me.
but you do agree that 2013 version is bit easier to swing and seem to have lower swingweight than the previous years, right ?
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