2013 AeroPro Drive

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  1. RollTrackTake

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    Andy from TW gave the plus (+) version a glowing review. What are your thoughts on its strengths, weaknesses and overall playability?
     
  2. Rafaboy

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    Originally Posted by ArliHawk
    Think it's fair to say everyone has different experiences. The 2010 version treats me fine, but the 2013 doesn't work. This seems counter intuitive, since the 2013 is supposed to be better on the arm. I appreciate it is a great racquet, it's just not the racquet for me.

    I had the same problem, until i went with softer strings/less tension. For me, it depended on setup and style of play.
     
  3. Rafaboy

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    also, less mass= less absorbed shock.
     
  4. ArliHawk

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    Absolutely.
     
  5. ArliHawk

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    The problem is I used the same setup in the 2013 that I did in the 2010. Just didn't work for me in the 2013.
     
  6. Boricua

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    Polyfibre TCS mains (52) and Babolat Excel or Gamma Professional crosses (54) is a very soft setup for the APD. I personally prefer full poly but will re-visit this Poly/ multi setup later on to see how it goes with the 2013 APD.
     
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    Spent very little time w earlier versions of the APD, or Babs holistically, due to almost instant arm discomfort.......

    2012 PD w Active Cortex was the game-changer for me----
    Demoed bc ridiculous cosmetics & could not believe the improved/ dampened feel- ultimately just not right fit, but no discomfort issues.....

    2013 APD def IS right fit for me, & stiffness has not been an issue at all,,,,,
    I string as well, so tried multiple setups just bc I can, and happy w multiple full poly configs <play poly/poly hybrids pretty much exclusively>........
    Only setup that has not worked for me is either VS or soft multi mains, bc too powerful w overly dampened feel, resulting in poor control......

    Favorite to date is Tour Bite 1.15 Mains/ Big Ace Micro 1.15 Crosses @ 57.5/56.5 w leather grip + Supergrap o/g <6pts HL / 11.7oz static>

    This setup has played phenomenal for me----
    HUGE controlled power/ spin w incredible comfort & feel.... prefer playing w/out dampener w this setup bc very minimal difference

    Highly recommend
     
  9. Nostradamus

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    ^^^this racket has a lot of power. RPM blast and X-1 biphase at 60 lbs is little too powerful for me. maybe I should try the Proline X
     
  10. Tan

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    Is new APD 2013 has less control than the previous model?
     
  11. slice bh compliment

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    I feel it has more control.
    I am a Storm tour guy, so I prefer a controlled feel over the harsh stiff feel of the former APDs.

    The new cortex (from the pure drive) makes this powerful racquet feel solid but not muted.
    I have added leather and silicone. The new handle makes the whole silicone process really easy, btw.

    The result is Storm Tour specs (heavy, headlight balance) with a powerful profile and a very solid feel.

    Like, uhmm, LIKE.
     
  12. aryansmith

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    I've been enjoying mine since early Dec. I did have TW match the online specs on both so they are identical. I used the original years ago and tried this stick on a whim while waiting for the Steam 99S not really expecting much. Glad I did, having spent time with both now I prefer the APD 2013.

    Since I've hit the past models a good bit here are my thoughts to compare:

    I found the GT to be a bit more jarring and less plush then the AC non GT version which really turned me off of that model. I had this disconnect with the GT version which was my least favorite. The new one seems to take the good things about the GT and combine it with the AC but eliminate the AC's hollow feel.

    The 2013 is very solid with some decent feel. Let's face it Bab's in general are not the best for feel imo. Comfort on it has been wonderful as my shoulder has had many issues in the past so trust me I would know. No arm issues at all. I feel it has more control and oddly more power at least serving. I would actually compare it to the PD as far as serve power which was not the case with the GT or AC model. Spin is excellent as always and control improved. Yes it's on the stiff side but again that is the case with most Babs. I even find the PSGT to be somewhat stiff despite the flex rating. Not a painful stiff but you can certainly feel it's not flexing very much.

    I use RPM Blast 16 full bed around 57 and may go a bit higher as it get's warmer for control reasons. Think I'll also try some 18g to see how it feels in the future. I'm a 4.5 all court player mostly doubles but can hold my own in singles as needed. This is just a fun stick to play with and well worth a demo at the least. As always your mileage may vary from mine :)
     
  13. Nostradamus

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    Ok, I have been using this for about 3 weeks now and it is really different than the Pure drives. It just feels very clumsy more and more I use it. and it is much more difficult to volley at net, especially in doubles. It seems and feels like easy to swing but when I actually go and play matches with it, it feels clumsy and very slow at net. I am talking compared to pure drive 2012.

    Did anyone else notice this ? I was very tired today but still that shouldn't really affect me that much
     
  14. MUZZA1973

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    Seriously considering purchasing this racquet as i've heard and read some pretty good reviews.

    Little sacred with the stiffness etc of the frame as i've had a little tennis elbow in the past.

    Having said all that, prepared to give it a crack with a soft string like Technifibre Black Code - 18 at aound 55lbs.

    39 y/o male 6'4". Big serve and groundies playing mainly doubles these days..

    Am i wasting my time or am i onto a winner with my thoughts and set up?

    All feedback greatly appreciated...

    Cheers
     
  15. Peedub

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    @muzza1973 - you sound like my tennis twin except I'm only 5'10! I'm in exactly the same situation coming from a Radical Pro (go muzza!) via a Prestige MP. I demoed the Aeropro out of curiosity and loved it with the stock string (excel at mid tension). I tried a friend's previous aeropro and felt it on my elbow after just 10 minutes but spent an hour with the 2013 and my arm felt fine.

    I'm carrying on with the Prestige MP but the Aeropro is an itch I'm just going to have to scratch.
     
  16. NogaroS4

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    I got the racquet a couple days ago and havent had time to go string it. Dying to play test this. I'm not sure what I want to string it with as I gotta see what this new tennis club I go to now has for strings. I've used every iriteraton of the apd and all has given me TE..I'm hoping this doesnt. I've used a pd gives me TE from time to time. Currently using a 2013 Blade 18x20 after leaving a Organix 10 325. Any string/tension recommendations that possibly would be easier on the arm?
     
  17. Francis27

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    any poly i like 48-50lbs

    For multis i heard Prince premier attack is pretty good on this at 57lbs. Polys either RPM Blast, Tecnifibre black code, volkl cyclone
     
  18. richsox

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    I am totally with you on this. Having been a PD user for last 10 years (have PD Team and PD 2012 in the bag), I jumped on the APD 2013 "must have" bandwagon. I demo'ed the APD 2013, and eventually bought into it, and promoted it to my 1st stick, The Honeymoon is fast coming to an end.

    I too have felt the clumsiness of it, especially on serving conpared to my PD's. In fact I am of the opinion that if I must have a "alternative" in my bag, just for the sake of having a "different" stick, I would go back to a Pure Storm GT (which I sold previously and regret it).

    I always veered away from the APD's due to the chunky-clunky look, and hollow toy like feeling, and yes the 2013 did address the hollow feel, but I just can't synch with increasing feeling of clumsiness.....(I also notice a twinge in my inside elbow--which may be due to-ing and fro-ing between racket's. Funnily enough when I have stuck with my PD's, I never really had any arm issues at all......)
     
  19. Nostradamus

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    OK. but today I played again with the Aeropro 2013 and it somehow felt better. I lost the match but I served pretty well with it. It is just fine one the baseline but it gets little SLOW and Clumsy at Net. This is especially true in Doubles.
    I was REALLY REALLY tired yesterday so it probably was worse than it really should have been. I am going to give this racket 2 more weeks of trial and I will decide then. Thank you
     
  20. DustinW

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    Has anybody added weight to the APD+? I rarely ever tweak my rackets, but this one felt two light and head heavy... so I added weight to the handle and in the hoop from 10-2. It is now 12.1 oz and 8 points HL.

    I will hit with it tomorrow and report back, but just wondering if anybody has done something similar.
     
  21. zapvor

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    active cortex??? babolat is amazing..........
     
  22. Jakesteroni

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    Ok, So I bit the bullet and got this racket after reading the reviews and trying out the Plus version. I purchased the std length and strung it up with tour bite 16L at 48lbs on a lockout machine. I've gotta say that this surprised me a lot. I usually play with box beam frames i.prestige mid, pure storm tour, dunlop mw 200g. I've never liked the stiff thick beams. This newer version is something else with it's feel. Yes it is light and doesn't absorb off center shots as well in its stock form, but lead can help with that. Usually I would feel hollowness in these type of light thick frames, but it's just the opposite.

    What I find is that even with the open pattern and thick beam the control is still there get the feel of box beam instead of massive trampoline feel, but power is easily accessible when you want it. Spin is nice, but I didn't notice too much of a difference from the pure storm tour I was using, but I did polarize it so that may be why. Swinging is definitely much easier and cleaner due to the weight and swingweight. I haven't yet served with it but overall I really love this racket and will switch. Best part is that my backhand is my weakest and this helped with a bit more juice and spin.
     
  23. keithfival

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    Seems lower powered than pre-2013

    Just hit one for an hour. Have used APDC, APDC+ extensively and hit with the GT yesterday. Is it just me or is this one notably lower powered than the previous models??

    Felt great on serves and BH but just couldn't get the zip I'm used to on the FH. I've never leaned so hard on a flat FH with an APD without hitting the fence, let alone not getting that much pace!

    It was strung with N.Vy at ~58. Not familiar with the string - very low power string?
     
  24. Lendl

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    I've been using the new APDC for a couple weeks now and agree it is way lower powered. I am using the same string I did with the APDC that was two versions ago and have gone down 8 lbs. in tension.

     
  25. djdannyj25

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    The new one is definitely the least powerful and has the most control.

    I would rank them like so for power:
    APDGT, APD, APDC, APD2013
     
  26. OnyxZ28

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    Totally agree with this. I compared the GT+ and the 2013+ and found that the GT+ had more power, plow, and hit a loopier, heavier ball compared to the 2013+. I thoroughly enjoyed the 2012 PD+ and PDR+ and was excited for the APD update by extension. Unfortunately, the 2013 APD+ didn't live up to my expectations.
     
  27. keithfival

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    Agreed. I did like the control. And the idea of maybe being able to use lower tension on the 2013 vs past APD's is appealing to me, comfort-wise.
     
  28. Faithfulfather

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    Your racket shipped out today. Should be there by Monday. I put on a new Wilson Pro overgrip and included a pack of Spikey Shark 17. I hope you enjoy it.
     
  29. El Zed

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    Isn't this all attributable to the new frame's lower swing-weight? If you add some lead at 12 o'clocl, to roughly equate the swingweights of both, wouldn't the "power" be similar? Wasn't the comfort/feel sufficient to give the nudge to the '13?

    I'm personally debating going to the '13 from the GTs - have a very nice setup on the GTs and prefer the design (French Opens), but can't get past the unmodified feel of the '13.
     
  30. OnyxZ28

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    I hope so -- I've added leather to my 2013+ to see if it helps. I didn't think the 2013, stock, was very comfortable outside the sweetspot at all, and felt that the sweetspot was rather small. In contrast I found the PDR+ to be very comfortable. I'm hoping adding weight to the 2013 will fix this issue but I'm not getting my hopes up.

    Agree -- the GT feels much better off the rack.
     
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    I'm personally debating going to the '13 from the GTs - have a very nice setup on the GTs and prefer the design (French Opens), but can't get past the unmodified feel of the '13.[/quote]

    Agree -- the GT feels much better off the rack.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, I'm likely going to return the '13 and stick with the Gt. I'm already getting a setup I love, and the higher swing-weight at the same mass just gives me more to work with.
     
  32. Rafaboy

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    Yes, lower tension is a must on setup. otherwise you will have problems with this racket. once you find that right tension, its a dream to hit with.
     
  33. keithfival

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    Same here. I really felt the increased stiffness off center which was happening much more often than with my cortexes. Again, some weight in the hoop might fix this but I think it scared me off despite the great control and easy serving.

    Would some weight at 10&2 and maybe upper 40s tension take care of that harshness and small SS?
     
  34. Rafaboy

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    I had the same problems too at first, but after a long while, not giving up, i dialed it in after trying about 5 different setups, with a poly setup at low tension, 52#. you need a string that allows you to really feel/pocket the ball. its gotta be just right. If you use the wrong strings at this tension, you will feel mushy. It needs just the right amount of spring to it.

    PM me if you want my setup. Once i got used to it, it now takes less energy to play it than my PD. And it hits great with tons of spin. The PD is still a fantastic stick though.
     
  35. OnyxZ28

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    I strung my 2013s with TB18 at 42 lbs. In contrast, my normal GT set up is TB18 @ 48 lbs. The 2013s still did not cup the ball as well as the GT, even at lower tensions.

    I added a leather grip to my 2013, which brought it up to 330g strung with OG and damp. It plays better now, but not well enough for me to consider switching from the GT.
     
  36. Nostradamus

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    Replaced bumper with one from 2012 Pure drive

    My experiment with Switching out the Head bumper guard with 2012 Pure drive one for 2013 Aeropro was great success.
    it definitely lowered the SW, noticeable difference on how easy you can swing. but you will sacrifice little bit of power. I think that is normal when you drop the SW
     
  37. tennisnut09

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    I have mine with TB soft 1.20 @56. They play great.The string bed is much softer. The volley feel much better than polys.
     
  38. Nostradamus

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    what is TB soft ? technifiber ?
     
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    Sorry! I meant it softer than most of the polys that I've played with. TB soft is solinco tour bite soft.
     
  40. xeros

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    i hesitated between APD2013 and APD+2013, which one should i buy
     
  41. acura9927

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    How is the 13 APD for one handed backhand. I had a tennis shop owner tell me its feel like a club for 1hbh. I really enjoy my extreme pro 2.0 but the weight is a bit high for me as well as the SW ( I am a 3.0).
    Should I save 50 bucks and get the 12 APD? Will I notice the higher SW on the 12 APD?
     
  42. Dimcorner

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    I really think the best thing to do is just to go and try it for a week with 2 or 3 sessions during that week.

    I have been using the 13 APD for about 3 months now.
    2-3hrs per session, 3-4 times per week every week and don't have arm/elbow pains. I'm a 3.0 as well with a mostly 1hbh. I'm also not a big guy (5'7" and 145lbs) so I don't have gigantic arms. To me it feels fine. I have it strung with Yonex PolyTour Pro 125 at 48lbs.
     
  43. MikeHitsHard93

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    Has anyone been a user of the Wilson pro open and switched to the APD? I'm trying to decide between the GT and 2013 models.
     
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    I had (well, technically I still have it as my backup) a 2011 Pro Open and now I'm using the regular APD after trying both the GT and the regular.
     
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    By "regular" do you mean the new one? This is my plan also, to make the pro open my backup.
    What did you like more about the APD?
     
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    Yes I have the 2013 APD. I demoed the regular and the GT and I preferred the regular length.

    I'm playing with Yonex PolyTour Pro 125 @ 48lbs and it feels good right now. I get more spin and power with the APD on the serve as well as more control. I did have to get used to the speed of the racquet because it does swing a little quicker so in the beginning I was framing a few balls but it's settling now.

    When I do switch back to the BLX I find myself playing slower in order to keep the balls from sailing on me. I do notice that I can get more spin with the APD but the BLX is definitely nicer to hit off center with in terms of comfort.
     
  47. MikeHitsHard93

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    Thanks for the insight. I am highly considering buying the extended length APD 2013 because I really like the added reach and torque on my ground strokes.

    I feel like I swing a little too quickly with my pro open, which has a SW of about 315, so I think the extended length would be beneficial to me in this regard as well. I'm comfortable with swing weights between 320-335.

    Anyone string their APD up with the string it comes with? (Addiction)
     
  48. Ben42

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    I've played the Pro Open for the past 4 years or so (K Pro-Open then BLX Pro-Open)

    But the past couple of times out I hit with my friend's 2010 APD GT and I do like it better. It's not a whole lot different. A little more spin. A little more stable. And a little more directional control (the ball goes where i want it to more often).

    I'm going to demo the 2013 tonight and then I'll probably pull the trigger on one or the other depending on how the 2013 hits.
     
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    Mine came strung with black Xcel 16G which was a nice string though it moved a lot right from the off and eventually became stiff and dead. I didn't think they came with addiction and I haven't used addiction so can't comment. I have the GT model not 2013.
     
  50. Dimcorner

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    That's what I got out of my demo. The APD was just a little better in just about every aspect but it wasn't a night and day difference.
     

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