2013:Another CYGS opportunity for Djokovic

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  1. Headshotterer

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    He is in fine form. Nadal is out of the AO, the only possible threats to him are Murray, Federer, and even then, he has had many recent victories. Djoker owns Berdych and Tsonga. Just look at the ATP world tour finals.

    In the French, it may be a close battle, but he has a much better chance against Nadal this time. Nadal would be low on confidence, playing experience. Also, the 2011 match was much closer than it seemed.

    Wimbledon. HE lost to Federer, but by then, Federer's GS days would be numbered. Nadal didnt even play last Wimbledon, and it would have been so long since he wong there.

    The US Open. Murray got quite lucky, and Djokovic, he wasnt playing his best due to the wind.
     
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  2. smoledman

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    It won't happen, mainly due to the fact that Federer is going to win Wimbledon for sure.
     
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  3. MSK

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    Sorry, but how did Murray get lucky?
     
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  4. Bobby Jr

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    Federer's GS days clearly weren't numbered last year and Nadal did play Wimbledon.
     
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    Djokovic will not win the CYGS, he had his chance and blew it. That is it for him. If Federer and Nadal could not do it, Djokovic won't either.
     
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    He has a better chance than anyone else in the field but posts like these underrate how incredibly slim the chances still are. Margins of error are so small that it's hard to get any hopes up.
     
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    I know chances are as slim as slim can be, but it's what I'll be rooting for this year. It's a fun daydream for the start of the season even if it's a delusional daydream :) Let's see what happens at the Australian.
     
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    Look right now it's all just a dream.
     
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  9. Clarky21

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    I think he will do it.
     
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  10. cc0509

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    LOL, you thought he was going to do it this year and would beat Nadal at the FO!
     
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    I still think he will do it. And remember, this year was an Olympic year if you catch my drift. Next year we will see the free reign Eeyore that we saw in 2011.
     
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    I don't think so. Murray, Nadal and to a lesser extent Federer will have something to say about that.
     
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    Nadal is not even playing, and even if he were he wouldn't stop Eeyore. He has no one to stop him from winning every tournament he enters. It sucks for me because I can't stand that clown, but it's the truth.
     
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    He will be by the time clay season rolls around.
     
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  15. forzamilan90

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    Djoko can definitely pull it off
     
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  16. Mike Sams

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    Djokovic is going to become a legend at the end of 2013. Personally I think he needs to change his hair. Grow it out, slick it back and put it in a ponytail like Mercelo Rios did. Then grow a goatee or a full beard with it.
     
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    I think he's already a legend in many ppl's minds(he is in mine) because of the way he stopped Nadal dead in his tracks to surpass Fed's slam count. The way Djokovic's BH stood up to Ralph's relentless BH assault is legendary.
     
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    I thought Nadal actually went more to Djokovic's forehand. He knows the strength of Djokovic's backhand and his all-court game. There weren't really many holes he could exploit in Djoker's game.
     
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  19. 90's Clay

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    Fed won't win wimbledon unless there is rain and they close the roof.

    Nole will have a chance at the calendar especially if Nadal doesn't return to top level
     
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    what did the roof do exactly?
     
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    Did you watch Wimbledon 2012 ??

    Beneteau gave Fed a scare(2 points away from winning) when the roof was close.
     
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  22. NadalAgassi

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    In the event Nadal doesnt return by Roland Garros (and in decent shape) then yes a huge one. Murray should win Wimbledon, he is a better grass courter than Djokovic, but it doesnt mean he will. It will probably be hard for Federer to beat Djokovic at a slam again with his increasing age, and that Djokovic is not likely to be as off as he was at times in 2012 again, even at Wimbledon (although if he were to do it anywhere, that is probably his only chance at this stage). Murray could also stop Djokovic at the U.S Open like he did last year. With Nadal a big question mark at this point, Djokovic should win both the Australian and French Opens, it is the latter two that is the question mark. Wimbledon since he isnt an untouchable grass court player, and the U.S Open due to the pressure that would be on him to complete the Grand Slam if he has already won Wimbledon.
     
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  23. veroniquem

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    Not that again? He got lucky with the schedule (top part of the draw) and not having to play Fed. He still deserved his win 100% and congrats to him.
    OK, now that's been said, they'd better get rid of that Super Saturday garbage once and for all. Djoko was WAY out of gas in the final (a bit like Murray was in USO 2008). My patience is starting to wear thin with the USO's unique and aberrant scheduling in general.
     
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    It's funny how opinions swing here. Djokovic hasn't won a single major in 2013 and yet we have people thinking about four in a row.

    Djokovic is NOT gonna do it. He is NOT gonna win more than two majors.
     
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    I agree.............
     
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  26. Clarky21

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    Yes he will.
     
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    Nope. Murray will probably win another slam this year, we still can't count Nadal out for the FO if he actually shows up and you can't count Federer out at possibly W or the USO. Djokovic will win two tops this year.
     
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  28. Feather

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    Djokovic is NOT gonna all four. I am ready to bet for any amount you say. I expect Murray and Federer to win one each, (US and W). If Nadal plays in RG, then I don't see Djokovic win more than his AO
     
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  29. Clarky21

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    I disagree. I think he will win all 4 slams because he has no one to stop him. It's going to be a one man show with that Bozo at the helm.
     
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  30. kOaMaster

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    I don't think he will do it, mainly because of wimbledon. No idea how and why he won in 2011, but I don't think Djokovic is good enough to win wimbledon again. I see Federer, Murray and probably even others like Tsonga and Del Potro better than him. The ranking at the olympics represent my point of view of wimbledon.
     
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  31. Steve0904

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    It is an opportunity, but a very slim one. My thought is if he couldn't do it in 2011, he won't be doing it this year because I think 2011 was a one off for him.
     
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  32. Flash O'Groove

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    Nole is a heavy favorite for AO. I don't really see Fed beat him there. Murray could, but it will be though.

    If Nadal is not in good form for Roland-Garros, then Fed will give it a real shot, which I don't think he did in 2012. They are 3-3 on clay, 1-1 at RG. Nole would be a favorite, but it wouldn't be a given for him to beat Fed. Del Potro could also be a threat in Paris.

    Nole won't be favorite at Wimby if Fed and Murray are in good form. Other player could beat him in a good day (Tsonga and Berdych).

    The US Open is...open. It Murray, Federer, maybe Del Potro can beat him here.
     
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    Did you get shot in the head, because there are so many fails in this post, I don't know where to begin.
     
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  34. Gonzo_style

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    Bad logic, and Djokovic will have a good chance in 2013, especially at Roland Garros.
     
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    lol @ this.

    Fed at 30 takes out peak Novak on clay.

    Novak back down to earth, does not beat Fed/Murray for 4 straight GS's, it ain't happening.
     
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  36. Steve0904

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    No that's fine logic. Truthfully I don't think Djokovic is as good as Federer or Nadal overall, hence the reason that if neither of them could do it, why Djokovic?
     
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  37. Gonzo_style

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    Steve, I said bad logic because, obviously, Federer didn't win CYGS because Nadal at RG, and Djokovic will have a good chance in RG 2013, based on everything that's happening now with Nadal.

    Nadal didn't win CYGS, because we have two Grand Slam in year on HC, he never won two HC GS in a season, that's why I think Djokovic has a good chance, he is first favourite in AO and USO(with Murray). Wimbledon will be the hardest for him, that's for sure, of course, first we need to see what will happen in AO.
     
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  38. Phoenix1983

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    No one ever has a good chance to win the CYGS.

    However Djoker in 2013 has a better chance than most, I'd say around 20%.

    I don't see him winning Wimbledon though, I think his victory in 2011 was something of, if not a fluke, than an unrepeatable victory. I think Murray will triumph on home soil in 2013.
     
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    Without Nadal, Djoko would be the overwhelming favorite at RG. Fed is too old for red clay (in 2012, he lost to Djoko both in Rome and RG and was close to losing to Delpo at RG, it will be worse this year). The one slam I don't see Djoko winning is Wimbledon. Not that it is impossible but I would still put Fed and Murray as favorites over Djoko there.
    ETA: Djoko is a terrible matchup for Delpo, I don't know how on earth you imagine Delpo could beat him at USO. I disagree with that too.
     
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    I agree, however, the CYGS is NOT his priority...and most likely not his fantasy.
    Especially because he sees his chance to grab the RG this year. He openly stated this in Serbian media -- that the RG is his 2013 priority.
    I say, he will most likely win the AO (at least in the Finals) and he will grab the RG.
    Wimby and USO are up for grabs.
    Federer will not get a single slam in 2013

    Just my prediction.
     
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    He said the same thing in 2012. It will still be a tall order if Rafa is playing.
     
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    I think Novak will do it this year (RG I mean). He could only come down after his 2011 season but this coming season I think he'll be playing with alot of confidence. A possibly low on confidence and recovering Nadal? Unless he's in good form Djokovic will destroy him IMO.
     
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    No. Won't happen.
     
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  44. NadalAgassi

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    Del Potro might well never beat Djokovic in a best of 5, atleast wont do it anytime soon. Best of 3 maybe. Djokovic would for sure wear Del Potro down by then if need be.

    I agree on RG. If Nadal does not play or is not in the shape to win, Djokovic is the heavy favorite. No way is Federer beating him there again IMO, and cant see Murray beating him there either. Even if Nadal returns in form to have a plausible chance to win, he is already likely weakened enough Djokovic has a fighting chance, especialy as he has already challenged Nadal hard on clay the last 2 years.

    Wimbledon is the biggest threat, and Murray and maybe a lesser degree Federer at the U.S Open.
     
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  45. Flash O'Groove

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    Thank you for your answer. Here is some points from which I build my prediction regarding the 2013 player's form.

    1) Djokovic: it was expected from him in 2012 to have a lesser season than in 2011: because of the pressure, but mostly because 2011 was so good than it is almost impossible to reproduce it. Ever. I believe Fed's 2006 is the only season which surpass Nole's 2011. Now, his 2012 was still excellent, and he finished on a strong note. I believe he will be the most consistent at the top, but I also believe that, much alike in 2012, he will be vulnerable to his main rivals if they are in a good day, in AO less than elsewhere. He could also fall in 2013 in matches he barely escaped in 2012 (Murray, Nadal at AO, Tsonga at RG).

    2) Federer: it is expected from him to lose more ground. It may happens in 2013, but I don't have much clues about it. He probably won't care of the ranking to concentrate on the major titles. As you said, Fed was not impressive in Rome nor in RG. That could mean that his winning days on clay are definitively over, or that he was simply in sub-form. I believe that the perspective to play Nadal in final if he had won against Nole in semi prevented him to try really hard. Now, if Nadal isn't there, I think he would. It wasn't so long ago that he beated absolute peak Djokovic there. In the other major, Fed will be vulnerable to more players than Murray or Nole, but he can still win any of them.

    3) Murray: He has always been a though rival for Djokovic, but now he has won two big tournaments, and both of them requested that he beat Djokovic. He is a real threat anywhere outside clay (well, he was good in Rome 2011). I don't see him dominating 2013, but he surely can beat Novak in AO, Wimby, or USO.

    4) Del Potro: Not sure about the bad match-up. He believe he is simply, as yet, an inferior player than Djokovic. Now, the man did win a slam before his injury, and he did showed tremendous improvement in 2012. He lost 6 time to Fed before winning their last 2 matches. He did beat Nole at the Olympics, and was close at the WTF. Maybe it won't happen this year, or not at RG, but the man will win again.

    Other players, while some can hurt Fed or Murray on a good day, are irrelevant to Novak in major, except if he is bad (Tsonga at RG). But I don't see him being bad often.
     
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  46. TMF

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    The chance of having 4 different players winning the slam is more likely than Nole winning all 4.
     
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    Having a good chance, does not mean he will do it and I don't think he will. JMO.
     
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    The only guy with a shot at all 4 is Federer. With his ability to pick whatever tourney to play and get lots of rest, we might see the return of a Federer 2.0 like season. Not at his 04-07 level, but something close maybe. Remember Fed doesn't lose because the other guy is better it's because at this age he cannot nearly recover as well as when he was in mid-20s. RECOVERY folks, will be the key to 2013.
     
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    Exactly my point. The only way Djokovic will do it is if Nadal retires permanently, Murray becomes a one-slam wonder and can't win more slams and Federer really declines a lot this year. If Nadal, Murray and Federer are still playing and are healthy, Djokovic won't do it.
     
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  50. cc0509

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    What is "happening" with Nadal is that he will be back for clay season and will likely win the FO. Don't be fooled by all of this serious injury nonsense.
     
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