2013 NCAA Men's Division 1

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  1. TopDawg

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    Both Baylor and Duke went to Hawaii and won easily this week. Baylor's latest additions both won easily playing at the 2 and 4 spots. Neither Roberto Maytin or Julian Lenz played today.

    #15 Baylor 6, Hawai`i 1
    Jan 12, 2013 at Honolulu, O'ahu (UH Tennis Complex)

    Singles:
    1. Mate Zsiga (BU) def. Jonathan Brooklyn (UH) 6-3, 6-2
    2. Patrick Pradella (BU) def. Dmytro Kovalyov (UH) 6-2, 6-2
    3. Marko Krickovic (BU) def. Jared Spiker (UH) 6-2, 6-2
    4. Tony Lupieri (BU) def. Chas Okamoto (UH) 6-2, 6-3
    5. Diego Galeano (BU) def. Danilo Casanova (UH) 6-4, 4-6, 7-6 (7-5)
    6. Nils Schuhmann (UH) def. Robert Verzaal (BU) 6-1, 6-4

    Doubles:
    1. Mate Zsiga/Diego Galeano (BU) def. Jonathan Brooklyn/Dmytro Kovalyov (UH) 8-6
    2. Patrick Pradella/Marko Krickovic (BU) def. Jared Spiker/David Schuster (UH) 8-3
    3. Tony Lupieri/Robert Verzaal (BU) def. Chris Meyer/Nils Schuhmann (UH) 8-3



    Duke's freshmen Michael Redlicki won easily in his dual match debut.

    #5 Duke 7, Hawai`i 0
    Jan 09, 2013 at Honolulu, O'ahu (UH Tennis Complex)

    Singles
    1. #11 Henrique Cunha (DU) def. Dmytro Kovalyov (UH) 6-3, 6-0
    2. #23 Fred Saba (DU) def. Jonathan Brooklyn (UH) 7-5, 6-3
    3. #14 Michael Redlicki (DU) def. Jared Spiker (UH) 6-3, 6-0
    4. Chris Mengel (DU) def. Chas Okamoto (UH) 6-2, 6-0
    5. #38 Raphael Hemmeler (DU) def. Danilo Casanova (UH) 6-1, 6-4
    6. #123 Jason Tahir (DU) def. Nils Schuhmann (UH) 6-1, 6-2

    Doubles
    1. #1 Henrique Cunha/Raphael Hemmeler (DU) def. Jonathan Brooklyn/Dmytro Kovalyov (UH) 8-1
    2. #39 Michael Redlicki/Jason Tahir (DU) def. Danilo Casanova/Chas Okamoto (UH) 8-2
    3. #37 Fred Saba/Chris Mengel (DU) def. Jared Spiker/David Schuster (UH) 8-2
     
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    Easy wins, I mean why would you go to Hawaii in January? Oh right.
     
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    Louisville knocked off Nebraska today 6-1. 4 of the 6 singles contests went 3 sets - Scores
     
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    Baylor and Duke should have just played each other while they were both in Hawaii.
     
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    Man, Duke is loaded
     
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    Yes, they are. That is without Semenzato in the line-up. With that roster there is no reason to finish the year outside the top 4.
     
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    and a lot of talent on the bench also...
     
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    will be interesting to see who gets booted out of the lineup by semenzato

    i think they'll do a good bit of shuffling during the season and ultimately hemmeler will be focusing on dubs later in the year...maybe a chance that semenzato doesn't adjust to the college game quickly as well, always tough to tell until they play some big dual matches...i just have a hard time seeing tahir on the outside of the singles lineup considering the way he has stepped up with some bigtime results in the past 6 months
     
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    That top 7 is very strong - agree with you on Tahir, who has a really big game - and provides for margin of error in case of injury. Hemmeler isn't your classic dubs specialist - he can't weigh 150 lbs, and serve seems pretty weak, but he is very crafty at it.
     
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    anyone who has seen duke dubs in recent years knows you can be great at it without having a big-serving Van't Hof-Farah or Shabaz-Courtney type of combo

    Cunha-Carleton were nasty

    whether it's Hemmeler or Semenzato that ends up pairing with Cunha (both have had bigtime results - fall and summer, respectively), i expect the same type of top notch #1 team

    often it's the team that returns better in dubs

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    anyway, both Duke and UVA look fantastic this year, some experienced aces up top and tons of depth

    going to try my best to make it out to both of those matches (assuming an ACC final rematch) if at all possible to see if Duke can finally get over the hump - almost happened last year with it coming down to Cunha-Jenkins @ Duke - this might be the year

    either team will have an uphill battle winning four singles matches, dubs will be bigtime
     
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    Look at the dates. Not there at the same time.
     
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    I think that was the point...why wouldn't Duke hang around an extra couple days and Baylor come a day early? It's friggin Hawaii....in January. Enjoy it. Not like they're missing much in class right now. Give em a beach day.
     
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    Probably too early in the season for each team to test themselves against another top 10 team and feel ready.
     
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    Washington upset Tulsa - match came down to a 3rd set tiebreak at 4. Washington's #3 singles player sat out too which makes this one that much more impressive.

    #25 Washington 4, #17 Tulsa 3
    Jan 18, 2013 at Tulsa, Okla. (Michael D. Case Tennis Center)

    Singles competition
    1. Kyle McMorrow (WASH) def. #34 Japie De Klerk (TLS) 7-6 (9-7), 6-0
    2. Clifford Marsland (TLS) def. Emmett Egger (WASH) 6-2, 6-2
    3. Viktor Farkas (WASH) def. #68 Alejandro Espejo (TLS) 7-5, 6-3
    4. Max Manthou (WASH) def. Grant Ive (TLS) 6-2, 3-6, 7-6 (11-9)
    5. Carlos Bautista (TLS) def. Nicholas Kamisar (WASH) 6-3, 7-5
    6. Jeff Hawke (WASH) def. Tristan Jackson (TLS) 6-2, 3-6, 6-1

    Doubles competition
    1. Clifford Marsland/Alejandro Espejo (TLS) def. Kyle McMorrow/Marton Bots (WASH) 8-3
    2. Grant Ive/Tristan Jackson (TLS) def. Max Manthou/Emmett Egger (WASH) 8-3 (8-3)
    3. Carlos Bautista/Japie De Klerk (TLS) def. Jeff Hawke/Viktor Farkas (WASH) 6-3
     
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    Soren Hess-Olsesen's first match back after missing time with an injury.

    No. 23 Texas 6, No. 25 Washington 1

    Doubles
    1. Chris Camillone / Nick Naumann (Texas) def. Kyle McMorrow / Marton Bots (UW) - 8-5
    2. David Holiner / Daniel Whitehead (Texas) def. Emmett Egger / Max Manthou (UW) - 8-5
    3. (n/a) Andrew Korinek / Alex Hilliard vs. Jeff Hawke / Viktor Farkas - 6-7 (susp.)

    Singles
    1. Kyle McMorrow (UW) def. No. 31 Soren Hess-Olesen (Texas) - 2-6, 7-6, 6-4
    2. Sudanwa Sitaram (Texas) def. Emmett Egger (UW) - 3-6, 6-3, 6-2
    3. No. 43 Daniel Whitehead (Texas) def. Viktor Farkas (UW) - 6-2, 7-5
    4. Lloyd Glasspool (Texas) def. Max Manthou (UW) - 6-3, 3-6, 7-6
    5. No. 98 Nick Naumann (Texas) def. Jeff Hawke (UW) - 6-4, 6-3
    6. Andrew Korinek (Texas) def. Nicholas Kamisar (UW) - 7-6, 6-2
     
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    Michigan wins a squeaker with a lot of tight scores.

    #20 Michigan 4, TCU 3

    SINGLES
    No. 1 -- Evan King (U-M) d. Nick Chappell (TCU), 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
    No. 2 -- No. 100 Arnau Dachs (TCU) d. No. 48 Vlad Stefan (U-M), 3-6, 6-3, 6-3
    No. 3 -- Facundo Lugones (TCU) d. Alex Petrone (U-M), 5-7, 6-1, 6-2
    No. 4 -- Michael Zhu (U-M) d. JT Sundling (TCU), 6-4, 6-4
    No. 5 -- Barrett Franks (U-M) d. Orlando Superlano (TCU), 6-2, 5-7, 7-6 (3)
    No. 6 -- Rodolfo Bustamante (TCU) d. Alex Buzzi (U-M), 7-5, 6-4

    DOUBLES
    No. 1 -- No. 30 Evan King/Shaun Bernstein (U-M) d. Max Stevens/JT Sundling (TCU), 8-7(2)
    No. 2 -- Nick Chappell/Will Stein (TCU) d. Barrett Franks/Alex Buzzi (U-M), 8-7(3)
    No. 3 -- Alex Petrone/Michael Zhu (U-M) d. Arnau Dachs/Orlando Superlano (TCU), 8-7(4)

    Order of Completion: Doubles 2-3-1, Singles 4-6-3-2-5-1
     
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    Texas Tech gets good play from its freshmen - Dias and Dias.

    #29 Texas Tech 4, #56 Rice 3
    at Houston, Texas (Jake Hess Tennis Stadium)

    Singles
    1. Jonathan Chang (RICE) def. Vitor Manzini (TT) 7-6 (7-5), 7-6 (9-7)
    2. Gabriel Dias (TT) def. Peter Frank (RICE) 6-1, 6-1
    3. Hugo Dojas (TT) def. Adam Gustafsson (RICE) 2-6, 6-3, 6-2
    4. Tommy Bennett (RICE) def. Gabriel Wanderley (TT) 6-3, 6-2
    5. Philipp Seifert (RICE) def. Francisco Zambon (TT) 7-5, 7-5
    6. Raphael Pfister (TT) def. Leif Berger (RICE) 6-3, 6-1

    Doubles
    1. Jonathan Chang/Peter Frank (RICE) def. Vitor Manzini/Gabriel Dias (TT) 8-7
    2. Felipe Soares/Hugo Dojas (TT) def. Tommy Bennett/Adam Gustafsson (RICE) 8-6
    3. Francisco Zambon/Gabriel Wanderley (TT) def. Philipp Seifert/Leif Berger (RICE) 8-6

    Order of finish: Doubles (3,2,1); Singles (2,6,4,5,3,1)
     
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    Michigan State beats Vanderbilt 4-1 (they may continue the remaining matches). Pfister beats Austin in a deciding 3rd set tiebreak to clinch.

    Vanderbilt has been disappointing over the last 2 years with the recruiting classes they have had.
     
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    That is a disappointing result. Jeff Offerdahl didn't play but still with the talent they have they shouldn't lose to Michigan State.
     
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    I'm not sure if Vanderbilt offers any mens scholarships at all or if it is like one or two? The players I know there got nada and I remember them saying they aren't funded or aren't fully funded, can't remember. If that is the case, they are recruiting guys that want to go there way more for school I would imagine and aren't focusing on tennis at that point. It seems many are just using tennis as a way in nowadays, then sorta let it go when they get there, versus really being into it.
     
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    I don't knowabout any of that. When Ken Flach their last head coach ran the team they were NCAA runner-ups and had great teams, one which featured Bobby Reynolds for a few years.

    Meanwhile, flying under the radar........

    No. 33 Memphis 6, No. 52 Michigan State 1
    Doubles
    No. 1 - Connor Glennon/Cedric DeZutter lead Aaron Pfister/Drew Lied, 8-3
    No. 2 - Giljs Linders/Harry Jadun vs. Joe Salisbury/David O'Leary, 7-4, UNF
    No. 3 - David O'Hare/Lukas Vrnak lead Mullane/Zade, 8-2
    Singles
    No. 1 -- Connor Glennon (Memphis) def. Aaron Pfister, 4-6, 7-6, 10-5
    No. 2 - No. 64 Joe Salisbury (Memphis) def. Drew Lied, 6-4, 6-4
    No. 3 -- Lukas Vrnak (Memphis) def. Gijs Linders, 6-3, 6-3
    No. 4 -- John Patrick Mullane def. No. 70 Johnny Grimal (Memphis), 6-4, 6-3
    No. 5 -- David O'Leary (Memphis) def. Will Davis, 6-1, 6-4
    No. 6 -- David O'Hare (Memphsi) def. Harry Jadun, 6-0, 6-3
     
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    Good weekend of tennis for Texas getting wins over Tulsa and Washington.

    No. 23 Texas 4, No. 17 Tulsa 3
    Order of finish: Doubles (2,3,1); Singles (1,6,5,2,4,3)

    Doubles
    1. Clifford Marsland / Alejandro Espejo (Tulsa) def. Chris Camillone / Nick Naumann (Texas) - 8-6

    2. David Holiner / Daniel Whitehead (Texas) def. Grant Ive / Tristan Jackson (Tulsa) - 8-1

    3. Carlos Bautista/Japie De Klerk (Tulsa) def. Alex Hilliard / Sudanwa Sitaram (Texas) - 8-5

    Singles
    1. No. 31 Soren Hess-Olesen (Texas) def. No. 34 Japie De Klerk (Tulsa) - 6-3, 6-1

    2. Clifford Marsland (Tulsa) def. Sudanwa Sitaram (Texas) - 7-6 (7-4), 7-5

    3. No. 43 Daniel Whitehead (Texas) def. No. 69 Alejandro Espejo (Tulsa) - 4-6, 6-4, 7-5

    4. Lloyd Glasspool (Texas) def. Grant Ive (Tulsa) - 6-4, 7-6 (7-5)

    5. No. 98 Nick Naumann (Texas) def. Carlos Bautista (Tulsa) - 7-5, 6-1

    6. Tristan Jackson (Tulsa) def. Andrew Korinek (Texas) - 7-5, 6-3
     
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    Nice win yesterday for Mississippi State. Both teams had to replace a lot from last year. MSU started 4 freshmen and TT 3.

    No. 11 Mississippi State 5, No. 29 Texas Tech 2
    January 20, 2013 - Jake Hess Tennis Stadium - Houston, Texas

    Doubles
    1) No. 28 Jordan Angus/Malte Stropp (MSU) def. Gabriel Dias/Vitor Manzini (TTU) 8-5
    2) Zach White/Ethan Wilkinson (MSU) def. Hugo Dojas/Felip Soares (TTU) 8-5
    3) Romain Bogaerts/Pedro Dumont (MSU) vs. Francisco Zambon/Gabriel Wanderley (TTU) 5-5 (susp.)

    Singles
    1) No. 81 Stropp (MSU) def. Manzini (TTU) 6-4, 7-5
    2) No. 25 Bogaerts (MSU) def. Dias (TTU) 6-4, 6-1
    3) James Chaudry (MSU) def. Dojas (TTU) 7-5, 6-1
    4) Zambon (TTU) def. Dumont (MSU) 6-3, 6-0
    5) Raphael Pfister (TTU) def. Stefan Vinti (MSU) 6-1, 6-7(4), 1-0(7)
    6) Angus (MSU) def. Soares (TTU) 6-4, 6-1

    Order of finish... Doubles (1,2)... Singles (4,6,2,3,1,5)
     
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    Nicholls State beat SMU. Pretty shocking considering SMU gave Texas a pretty good match.
     
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    Sarkissian at 2 and Alcantara at 4 today for the Waves. It will be interesting to see if they keep this same lineup on Wednesday when they go to Washington.

    #7 Pepperdine 7, Pacific 0
    Singles
    1. #6 Sebastian Fanselow (PEP) def. Alex Golding (PAC) 6-1, 6-2
    2. Alex Sarkissian (PEP) def. Ben Mirkin (PAC) 6-1, 6-0
    3. Finn Tearney (PEP) def. Sem Verbeek (PAC) 6-3, 6-0
    4. Francis Alcantara (PEP) def. Denis Stolyarov (PAC) 6-0, 6-0
    5. Mousheg Hovhannisyan (PEP) def. Daniel Alameh (PAC) 1-6, 7-6 (4), 13-11
    6. Kento Tanaka-Tamaki (PEP) def. Trevor James (PAC) 6-1, 7-6

    Doubles
    1. Finn Tearney/Francis Alcantara (PEP) def. Alex Golding/Alex Hamilton (PAC) 8-5
    2. Sebastian Fanselow/Alex Sarkissian (PEP) def. Ben Mirkin/Denis Stolyarov (PAC) 8-2
    3. Mousheg Hovhannisyan/Kento Tanaka-Tamaki (PEP) vs. Sem Verbeek/Daniel Alameh (PAC) 6-4, unfinished

    Match Notes:
    Pacific 1-1
    Pepperdine 1-0; National ranking #7
    Order of finish: Doubles (1,2,3); Singles (2,4,1,3,6,5)
     
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    I was somewhat surprised at Pepperdine's line-up, too, and would expect them to move it around this week. Tearney and Fanselow sometimes have switched off 1/2 over the last year or so. They will lose very few points at 3/4 this year, whoever they put there. 1-5 this is a very good line-up and I won't be surprised if they are the best team in the LA area at the end of the year.
     
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    with that line-up they are a top 5 team for sure..#5 and #6 looks like they are struggling ..
     
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    Bold.

    Is that the right word?
     
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    patiently waiting on those new rankings that are scheduled to come out today.
     
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    Top 16 stays the same though Texas jumps 6 spots and Tulsa down 7. Northwestern up 4 and Michigan State up 5. Fresno State down 19 and will fall in the next few weeks as expected - New rankings
     
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    One would think the rankings get better with a few matches under the belt. These are awful and only a little better than the last ones. There's a team in the top 24 that might be 50th in reality.
     
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    I am rooting for Northwestern wildcats, best team in the country at the moment.
     
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    This is what I dislike about weekly rankings so early in the season. Teams need 8 or 9 matches under their belt to really see how they are doing. I also wish that the conference matches were mixed throughout the season rather than just at the end of the season. Too many 7-0 or 6-1 matches. There are top 20 teams playing their normal line-ups against fairly weak teams that would struggle against the 5-10 spots. This is why as the season goes on that guys at the #5 and #6 spots crack under pressure because they have not had to deal with it. This is the time of year when you take a guy who is #5 on your roster and play him at #1 so he knows how to deal with pressure when it is needed.

    It is actually nice seeing ranked teams playing each other so early in the season. Those are teams who want to improve their programs and tennis in general, not just worry about rankings.

    I agree, there are going to be some teams that are going to find out real fast that they have no business being in the top 25 and will be lucky to stay in the top 50. The ITA Kick-Off Weekend could prove to be an eye opening experience for quite a few teams.
     
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    5 and 6 players aren't more prone to cracking under pressure than any other player. Also if one team's 5 and 6 players are cracking that means the other team's players aren't right?

    The best way to improve your ranking is play other ranked teams. Playing a bunch of unranked teams doesn't help.
     
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    Semenzato didnt play again last weekend, but is still listed on the roster on the website. Anyone know what the story is?
     
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    Kentucky taking it to Indiana today - LiveStats
     
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    Pepperdine at Washington today at 6pm est - LiveStats link and it should have video too.
     
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    He can't play in any matches or tournaments until the Spring semester starts at Duke. I assume he'll be playing this weekend for the ITA Kickoff.
     
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    UCLA singles lineup today against UC Santa Barbara: Puget, Giron, Novikov, Mkrtchian, Thompson, Sell in that order. - LiveStats
     
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    or he's just not one of their best 6 players right now - certainly a possibility

    guy is a great recruit and will do lots of good in his four years - but i'm not willing to say he's definitively better than hemmeler or tahir right now
     
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    Bruins cruise though no shutout - Dennis Novikov goes down at 3 and Clay Thompson eeks out a 3rd set supertiebreak.
     
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    Well after looking at their academic calendar, classes have already started, and they've already played Elon and Charlotte. Semenzato appeared in neither, but they played 8 singles positions. Levine and McCall were #7 and #8. I'm guessing he may be injured.
     
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    Depending on the weather, I'll be at both of Stanford's matches tomorrow and Saturday.

    Friday, Jan. 25
    10 a.m. - No. 27 San Diego vs. No. 29 Texas Tech
    2 p.m. - No. 10 Stanford vs. No. 26 Texas A&M

    Saturday, Jan. 26
    10 a.m. - Losing teams from Friday
    2 p.m. - Winning teams from Friday
     
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  46. Clemson_tennis

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    Georgia needs to play Ball State so there can be the battle of Austin Smith's at #5.
     
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  47. woodrow1029

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    Never mind. Wrong thread,
     
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  48. Nostradamus

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    Sad news of Stanford losing in 1st round was devastating so they were deleted. :(
     
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  49. TopDawg

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    Top 25 Teams in Action This Weekend

    Lots of good matches this weekend - I'd say Stanford/BYU will be the closest of the Friday matches.

    Friday:
    #8 Oklahoma at #33 Indiana – 2pm est. LiveStats
    #48 BYU at #18 Stanford – 4pm est/1pm pst – LiveStats&Video
    #17 Texas at #2 USC – 6pm est/3pm pst - LiveStats
    #5 Duke at #25 Illinois – 7pm est/6pm cst – LiveStats
    #37 Minnesota at #22 Tulsa – 7pm est/6pm cst - LiveStats&Video
    #36 Santa Clara at #23 Washington – 8pm est/5pm pst – LiveStats&Video


    Saturday:
    #16 Texas A&M at #67 TCU – 2pm est/1pm cst – LiveStats
    #70 Fresno State at #3 UCLA – 4pm est/1pm pst – LiveStats
    #41 Louisville at #19 North Carolina – 6pm est – LiveStats
    #15 Tennessee at #25 Illinois – 7pm est/6pm cst – LiveStats & UTBlog


    Sunday:
    Georgia at #4 Ohio State – Noon est. – LiveStats&Video
    #5 Duke at #30 Notre Dame – Noon est – LiveStats
    #49 Wake Forest at #20 Michigan – 11am – LiveStats/Video
    #8 Oklahoma at #9 Kentucky – 1pm est. – LiveStats & LiveBlog
    #14 Baylor at #22 Tulsa – 2pm est/1pm cst - LiveStats&Video
    #17 Texas at #7 Pepperdine – 3pm est/noon pst – LiveStats
    #38 Boise State at #23 Washington – 3pm est/Noon pst – LiveStats&Video
     
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  50. jaggy

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    My brave boys at indiana have a hard time again today
     
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