2013 NFL Discussion: Keep It Sassy (it's a NYC SuperBowl Year)

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  1. LeeD

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    Remember the NewOrleans game 2 years ago. 49'ers fell behind by quite a bit, and Smith passing to Vernon and his legs brought them back from the brink of extinction.
    Smith was the highest rated QB when he got his concussion.
    He might hardly ever throw for 4 touchdowns, but he doesn't have to, with that D.
    OTOH, on radio talk, they say KC is not a threatening team, a team to be feared, like NO, Seattle, Denver, NE, or GB.
     
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    HA! NE is as threatening as a 1 year old baby. NE is a bad team this year but people still value the name too much.
     
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    Bad team, maybe, but at 6-2, then can cruise to the playoffs, rest some guys, and come in strong. QB is one of the top 5, and all they need is a defense that can give up less than 27 pts.
     
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    Bad news during the Broncos bye week...HC John Fox, 58, need aortic valve replacement surgery...expected to be sidelined for six weeks. That's a high-stress position to return to so soon after major open-heart surgery. Add to that, high-altitude and possibly cold weather in Denver and returning just before the playoffs...I'm guessing whoever gets the interim post may be guiding them the rest of the way.
     
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  5. Andyroddickfan

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    Flacco worst QB in league. Ravens worst defending SB champs ever, looking good on my 6 win prediction for them.
     
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    Not even close to the worst QB in the league
     
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    He's getting paid 120 mill. He's the worst QB in the league.
     
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    Wackiness everywhere...Chiefs keep winning despite being outgained 2-to-1; Jets continue schizophrenic win-loss pattern with a win vs Saints; another coach hospitalized (thankfully Kubiak is OK); Foles throws 7 TDs in less than 3 full quarters; Seattle spots Tampa 21 but wins; Falcons in freefall now at 2-6. 2013 season is nuts!
     
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    Chief's D basically outscores AlexSmith. That's to be expected.
    Who are the Jet's and Saints? Both erratic.
    Foles proved to be starting material last year, and Raider D sucks.
    Seattle was top 3 picked for this year, it's amazing they can play this bad for 4 games.
    Falcon's freefalling holding hands with Ravens.
     
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    I can agree with you being uneasy about seattle. pete carroll made a big splash when he first got to ne but then hit a wall. I halfway expect that to happen again. they've beaten some good teams (sf comes to mind) but they also can allow lesser teams to hang around. if you do that enough then odds are one of those teams will hang a "L" on you. the cowboys

    the falcons are unfortunately a mess (poor 88/ hope he isn't ending his career on a year like this :( ) and the afc north is really up for grabs atm (bengals leading the division with the browns in second at the halfway mark :shock: ).

    the steelers are not what they used to be. is it the o-line? is it bigben? is it no running game? is it the defense? how much of the blame do the coaches deserve?

    halfway into the season, there have been some big surprises as far as who's been playing well and who hasn't.
     
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    NO & Seattle are homefield juggernauts. Tampa's early lead was a shock but the Hawks responded and Lynch came up with his best game of the year, despite huge problems on the O-line. They will not get away with digging another hole when the Saints visit later on and that game may determine who gets the top NFC seed. The Niners will definitely be Saints fans that day.

    Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh the Steel Curtain has quite a bit of nylon in its new construction...a double-nickel means some "splaining", Mr. Tomlin. Cinci had it all going until the surprise loss in Miami. Now, Cleveland is looking better with the surprising journeyman Jason Campbell.

    The second half of '13 should be pretty interesting.
     
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    J Campbell wasn't bad in Oakland, had great potential, had no O line to block for him, then got injured.
     
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    Oakland defense was top 10 before yesterday. Key word was. That was just an abomination. Got too caught up in their hype. And Oakland O line was actually good when Campbell was here, he was the least sacked qb in the league before he got hurt in 2011. That and McFadden was leading the league in rushing. Then JC got hurt we traded too much for Palmer and the rest is misery for all parties involved. Happy to see him do well in Cleveland while Pryor looks like he has major work to do.
     
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    Least sacked because they chose to run the ball more than pass.
    Average in sacks per pass attempt plays. Those teams were very bad, like they are today.
    Oakland used up everything against the Steelers, and had little left to fend off the Eagles.
     
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    Idk I remember is passing the ball enough back then. But with McFadden and Bush in the backfield it'd be foolish not to run the ball just a bit. Hue Jackson had the team playing well, then Al passed and Jason and McFadden got hurt. Hue got too much of an ego, and the team blew it in week 17 at home with a chance to win the division. If Jason doesn't get hurt who knows.

    But it is what it is. I watch more raiders football than should be legally possible for one's health. I know the feeling of losing and yesterday was an embarrassing letdown from a team that was headed in the right direction.
     
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    Michael Bush can be tackled by a high school player who uses one hand. Touch him, he falls.
     
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    Lee, you go and try and tackle him then get back to me. Add always you seem to know it all but really know nothing relatively speaking.

    Speaking of former raider qbs though, Matt Flynn may not be unemployed for long w Mr Rodgers going down with a broken collarbone tonight
     
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    Have the Bills already cut Flynn? If he's GB-bound, that will make four teams he has suited up for in barely more than a year!
     
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    Seneca Wallace played very well, considering he never practiced with the first team, and he came over from the 49er's, who gave him a 2 week peek.
    Michael Bush. If you talk to any knowledgeable people, every one will say Bush needed to add the extra 30 lbs. so he doesn't fall over when a 175 lbs DB reaches out and touches him. A D lineman would just get a hand on him, and he'd fall over sideways.
    As for me, I'm 64 years old, 150 lbs. You do the math.
    Varsity football, and we won the CityChampionship (SanFrancisco) my junior year, when I was coming back from a rebreak tib/fib with 3 pins surgery in early August, by the time late Oct rolled around, I could tackle our two All City running backs, one 215 lbs., the other 225lbs., in tackling drills EVERY time before they gained 5 yards. I started the final game of the season, played one playoff game, and then started the Champiionship game...although I did get the wind knocked out of me, sitting the entire 2nd quarter and most of the 3rd, I played the whole 4th quarter in our winning AAA game.
    I was about 5'6", 118 lbs., and played weak side linebacker (OLB), and starting Tight End.
     
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    Flynn has been cut by the Bills but GB is showing zero interest in him, partly due to their low rung (23rd of 32) in the waivers pecking order. They are moving along with Wallace and probably will promote Scott Tolzien (former Badger QB) from their practice squad. He was the 3rd QB in SF the entire '12 season.
     
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    I just hope Seattle won't disappoint again. They kept on building and building up to a point wherein they ultimately crumble, when it matters.:oops:

    So to be on the safe side I'll go with Tom Brady (hopefully, they won't come short again this time). Peyton's Bronco? Too early to tell. Hope, in the end the Colts do better than the Broncos.:)
     
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    How about my colts? :)

    I've been following football since 2004 (ish), and it's always been the blue horse shoe...

    Did not think they'd do well after manning, but Luck is making it work!

    6-2, a decent schedule, hopefully they can get in to the playoffs!

    People are talking about them as a contender for the Super Bowl, but I just can't expect that from them yet... Every single win feels like an unlikely victory!

    Good times to be a colts fan :)
     
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    Colts in every game with Luck playing the 4th quarter. Need a touch more on RB, with Richardson not a bust, but no better than anyone else.
    Need to move Mathis from side to side, and from outside to stunt inside, so he doesn't always face 6'6" x 330lbs behemouths.
     
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    The running backs must of sucked. They had 100lbs on you and you could tackle them? Don't think so buddy. Next time you tell the story will you be 5'4 100lbs and you tackled Adrian Peterson?
     
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    LeeD was the inventor of the shoestring tackle!:twisted:
     
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    yeah Lee, I'm not the only one that senses a hint of bs in that last post.

    RIP to Clarence ACE Parker, oldest living football player (101) and Portsmouth VA native. Learn a bit about him and the history of the NFL at the same time.
     
  27. LeeD

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    Coach was JimPalmer, former 49er's safety. You can look him up.
    Yeah, I can tackle almost any runner in drills. Helmet, pads and attitude. If I didn't, I wouldn't be playing on the team, would I?
    I started both ways my JV year. Junior year, broke ankle and came back last game, league champ, and champ game.
    Senior year, started first 6 games, then was relegated to kickoff and punt return duties.
     
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    I hope that this bullying "scandal" doesn't ruin the rest of my Dolphins' season. Did they ever say what was wrong with Coach Kubiak (who passed out during the Texans' game)? Really sad to hear about Tony Dorsett's CTE diagnosis :(
     
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    Aaaaaaaand we've officially come crashing down earth... Beatdown by the rams... Sad!
     
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    Hail Mary Cinci-style! Last play of regulation and a miracle gift by a Ravens' DB earns a shot at victory in OT. Oh My!!!!
     
  31. Andyroddickfan

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    Don't think you guys came crashing Down to earth. People overreacted when you beat the broncos and the colts are a team that wants to be run first but can't actually run the ball and won't play pass first until they're down big. Lost this week and should of lost last week. Should be able to bounce back next week against the titans though.
     
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    Your football coach was a multiple Cy Young winner? Now youre
    gonna tell us he was also a jockey underwear model too.
     
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    Baseball Jim Palmer was a white boy, dark hair, hard features.
    Our football coach must have played in the late '50's, since he was also one of our basketball coaches in 1962 or so, easily 6 years after his retirement.
    I was playing 90's exponent basketball in junior high, CoachFernandez, and was playing in one of those student vs faculty games they did on rainy days during lunch break. I was an 8th grader.
    Now, student vs faculty might be a joke to you, but the student team was usually comprised of the junior high "unlimited" baskeball team. It was, and they picked me from the 90's exponent team for all the games, 8th and 9th grade.
    Palmer played for the faculty, as did my mechanical drawing teacher, and the unlimited's coach.
    I play SF in the paint. Palmer, at 6'2" and easily 240 lbs., kept trying to back me into the paint and closer to the basket. This in over 5 student vs faculty games. NOT once did he score. He did pass behind his back to a cutter, but he never once scored on me. I blocked a couple of his turnarounds, couldn't come near his sky hooks. We played man on man, and I always out scored him.
    We met later in 9th grade JV tryouts. He remembered me, and that's why I got to play football. Coach Holland, the varsity coach my JV year, gave me a quick looksee, but deemed I was way too small to play football. He stepped back the following year and allowed Palmer to co coach, and my senior year, Palmer was the head coach of the varsity football team.
    It would be very difficult to make up a story like that, being so weird, but alas, it's true.
     
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    49ers just can't play consistent on offense. The defense is solid, but our offense has an unreliable passing game. Shut down Gore and the 49ers look like the Jaguars on offense. SMH.
     
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    why do you think that is? are teams double covering boldin? is boldin just not the same player he was last year? injuries at wr? is kaep having a soph. slump? something different all together?
     
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    You have great stories I'll give you that. But if I recall when you played football you were 5'6 118 around. So this was before then. You would of been smaller. I'm 6'3 190, and would have dummied anyone your size all over the court. To help you understand better: it would be dunk face all day. Hard to believe this guy who has 50 pounds on me couldn't back you down, let alone you would be able to block him. But who am I to say this didn't happen.

    Regarding the 49ers offense vs Carolina. You do know Carolina has been the best D in the nfl over their last 5 games right. I mean it's not even close. They have been letting opposing teams score less than 12 points per game during their win streak. Also kap is throwing to practice squad players (except boldin who isn't great at creating space anyways). Manningham not in game shape as it was his first game back and Davis left early.
     
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    INDECISION at QB is the problem.
    With the top QB's, quick read, throw. That might come with experience, it might not. Seldom does the 2nd or 3rd option work, especially with Kap.
    OL is OK at runblocking, but leaky like a sieve with pass blocking against physical teams like Seattle, Indy (for some reason), and Panths. Last year, the Rams beat them once, tied them the other game, no passing attack the problem.
    And possibly the AlexSmith syndrome. "Don't turn the ball over, and we will be OK" stuff. That turns into paralysis due to too much analysis.
     
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    I recently discovered the NFL Network. Wish Tennis Channel had the quality original programming of its football-centered counterpart.

    Some great mini-docs on Barry Sanders and Randall Cunningham. Anybody else see those?
     
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    The NFL was blessed with colorful characters and the Sabol family to document all their exploits for several generations. The quality of the current programming on the NFL Network is a direct result of the standards the Sabol family created on NFL Films for the last 50 years. Unfortunately, nobody was wandering the ATP Tour with cameras and crew to showcase our sport's heroes from earlier eras.
     
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    More sad news from the NFL...former Raider great Todd Christensen, 57, has died after complications from liver transplant surgery. A devout Mormon, Todd never drank and it's believed his liver problems began years ago from a botched gall bladder surgery. This great guy, on and off the field, will be sorely missed...RIP!
     
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    Good job refs

    And they insisted the replacement refs were so much worse than these refs? Picking up the flag on that last play mugging was a joke. Kuechly was bear hugging Gronk.
     
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    No worst than the hit on DrewBrees.
    All shoulder pad, and since Brees didn't see it coming, his head snapped in response to his body being jerked backwards. No hit on neck NOR on head.
     
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    I'm all for protecting any player from serious injury but we have a yellow-flag pandemic going on in the league. QBs in particular should be uniformed in skirts the way the game is currently being officiated.

    As to the NE non-call, payback is a biotch...no first ring for you guys if Brady didn't get the nod on the "tuck" rule vs. Oakland. Live with it.
     
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    Loved what the Panthers did against the Patriots.

    There's not alot to choose between their defence and the Chiefs, but they have far more options when looking to put points on the board. Plus the Cam factor.

    Seeing them in the playoffs would be nice.
     
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    Panthers success is all about patience...Rivera is a great defensive coach but it's taken a few years for all their roster moves to pan out; meanwhile, Rivera has learned to gamble a little bit in tight offensive situations and trust in Newton through his growing pains.

    The patience all starts from ownership...Jerry Richardson built this franchise like he built his fast-food (Hardee's) empire; a big dream one step at a time. I'm real happy for him...a heart transplant and then the death of his son to cancer are tough hurdles but he has battled all his life, including as a teammate to NFL legends Unitas, Moore, Barry et al.
     
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    Sounds like they're getting what they deserve then, that's good. Last year Newton seemed to believe all the hype around, got cocky, lost his way etc.. Both the performances and the interviews i've seen from him this year have been totally different.

    They have a great receiver, a few good ones, Olson always does whatever you ask of him, options when running. The defense is obviously one of the best around, but those linebackers are just nasty.
     
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    Their biggest challenge will be on offense. Cam still has bad accuracy issues, smith isn't what he used to be and they have like 4 running backs they each give 6 carries a game. Their D is amazing. Top 3 in the league, but as soon as another team can put up 24+ I doing think they can hang with them. They have a super easy schedule rest of way, except playing NO twice. That will be a huge test for them. They should easily be able to get 4+ wins down the stretch.

    Also, AFC is a joke. Denver and that's it.
     
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    You could be right, for me they have a bit more offense than Kansas City, whilst having a comparable defense. Plus Cam being able to produce magic from time to time, they also seem to use some strange formations and do things that you don't expect.

    A team who wins it all usually goes into the playoffs with questions against them, but who have a strong D. Could be too much to ask for them, but a nice run isn't out of the question, for me anyway.
     
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    Don't write off Indy in the AFC...they are built on more than Luck!

    I know they've been whacked once but they are very resilient and the QB is Captain Clutch, which can erase some of the other weaknesses that pop up from time to time.
     

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