2013 ROTTERDAM General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by Ico, Feb 9, 2013.

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Who will win Rotterdam?

Poll closed Feb 16, 2013.
  1. Roger FEDERER

    45 vote(s)
    60.8%
  2. Juan Martin DEL POTRO

    10 vote(s)
    13.5%
  3. Jo-Wilfried TSONGA

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  4. Richard GASQUET

    5 vote(s)
    6.8%
  5. A member of Tennis: The Next Generation

    5 vote(s)
    6.8%
  6. Someone else.

    6 vote(s)
    8.1%
  1. jwjh

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    yes he did and he wore pink too.
     
  2. beast of mallorca

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    I like Delpo, but it would better for Benny to win his first. I think he's the only one in the top 40 without an ATP title.
     
  3. rafan

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    Just looked at the score did Fed want out?
     
  4. Clarky21

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    Seems you can dish it out but can't take it. Remember this next time you decide to troll Nadal match threads.
     
  5. Clarky21

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    Sure seemed that way.
     
  6. Sentinel

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    He;s peaking for the French Open. ;)
     
  7. kalyan4fedever

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    federer will win fo :) the other guys knock themselves out
     
  8. beast of mallorca

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    Can't take it huh ?:twisted:
     
  9. rafan

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    Is this another situation whereby the top ones just make an appearance and let the other guys get a chance to win some moneY?
     
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    wouldn't shock me at all. One of those, if I win I win and if I lose...oh well kind of things
     
  11. Goosehead

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    federers loss is his 200th defeat in singles matches..:twisted:

    still has 885 wins though :)
     
  12. NadalDramaQueen

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    Federer should retire. :)
     
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    Yes, roger is surviving now on appearance fees and second serves.
     
  14. jwjh

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    It's also Jules' 200th win. Poetic symmetry.
     
  15. beast of mallorca

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    ^^^Federer losing is really a poetry in tennis........ :twisted:
     
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    is it ?..lol, when benny was 2 points from winning a few of games before he actually did, and it looked like fed was storming back at 5-5 15-40 on bennys serve..i thought..bizarre if benny loses to fed AGAIN after being 2 points from victory like at wimby..but..he did not.
     
  17. underground

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    There's a difference between trolling and over-trolling. Plus using the same smilie in every single post.
     
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    Are you kidding? These guys are champions and never want to lose. I did not see the match but heard Federer could not buy a serve. He can't win matches these days without his serve if he is facing any kind of decent player.
     
  19. underground

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    I didn't watch the end of the match and just saw the MP. That was a pretty do-able BH DTL to be honest by Fed's standards. But I guess Fed was too rusty today and his serve was another problem.
     
  20. Clarky21

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    Oh, come on now. Fed just had an off day and he lost. You've got it a heck of a lot better than long suffering Nadal fans like me. My fav really is done.
     
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    Now it's a competition for who is the most impoverished?
     
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    No he did not. He should be beating guys like Benneteau even at age 31 no excuses. Benneteau is the same age as Fed is after all. Federer's serve has been awful and players are reading it more easily, it does not have the same bite as it used to, at least not consistently. If he can't serve consistently, he won't win matches against the better players. Simple really.

    Nadal is five years younger than Federer is and Nadal will find his game again.
     
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    you didnt watch the freaking match, you just came in here to slaag off federer :confused:
     
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    I did not watch it but you don't have to be a genius to figure out that if Federer does not serve well, it is tough for him to win these days.
     
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    Fed just had an off day. Simple really! Even Fed's younger rivals have off days (i.e. Djokovic has lost to Querrey and Tomic, Murray has lost to Garcia-Lopez and Raonic, Nadal has lost to Melzer and Zeballos). All lesser players who normally wouldn't have much chance against the top 4, but have benefitted in certain matches from their own good play and some below-par play from their normally superior opponent.

    Credit to Benetteau though, he played well and deserved to win on the day. Fed wasn't that great all week in truth. He will need to be much better in Dubai and I'm sure he will be. I hope Dimitrov can win in Rotterdam now!
     
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    his serve isnt why he lost..not that you would know..having not watched it :confused:

    it was everything else, his serve was ok-ish..maybe an untimely double fault, but his groundstrokes were wide and long or total shanks..and he let bennys attacking style get to him and fed rushed a few shots which didnt help either..at one stage he actually looked flustered.
     
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    Federer would take this loss since Benny gave him the Wimbledon match.
     
  28. underground

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    My thoughts exactly. If it was destined for Fed to lose twice to Benny, I wouldn't have changed anything.
     
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    When I see him serve, it looks like he is wary of his back. I don't think he is done because he took a loss at Rotterdam, however.
     
  30. Goosehead

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    i didnt notice if fed had his 'sports top' on underneath, to keep his back warm.
     
  31. tipsytennis

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    Simon should win this match but proving to be pretty tough so far, Klizan is playing well
     
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    And Nadal should be beating mugs like Zebs at the age of 26 no excuses, but he didn't did he?

    I watched the match and Fed didn't serve his best, but I still think he will be fine. He looked like he really didn't want to be out there so I doubt this loss will be the death of him.
     
  33. Sartorius

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    Apparently this was Fed's 200th loss.

    And Benny's 200th win. Guess it was bound to be. :)
     
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    Del Potro's title to lose now.
     
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    Over 100 points played and still in the first set, classic Simon. He's 0/12 on BP's, Federer would be proud.
     
  36. cc0509

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    I just looked at the match stats, 57% 1st serve percentage is Federer serving well? My point was that if he does not serve very well these days, it is more difficult for him to win a match against the better players because we know he is probably going to have periods of inconsistent groundstrokes and shank balls. He needs the insurance of having a very good and consistent serve. It just seems to me that lately the better players are reading his serve a little better.
     
  37. veroniquem

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    Fed is not gonna repeat his unexpectedly glorious 2012, that's for sure. Everybody already knew time is not on his side. But he can still pull the occasional big win probably.
     
  38. romeo8880

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    Simon has mastered the art of wasting break points.
     
  39. ultradr

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    I would not make much conclusion from this match. He probably got enough
    appearance money and was not gonna make much efforts on an off-day.

    But, in general, I'm curious why French players would bother Federer more,
    like Tsonga, Simon and Bennetau. Do they share tips on how to read
    Federer's serves or something like that?:twisted:
     
  40. RAFA2005RG

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    Nah, I think Federer's big win days are over. Will he beat Djokovic or Nadal at a slam again? I don't think so. Murray is such a choker at Wimbledon (ala Tim Henman), so maybe, but it wouldn't be so big as we all expect it.
     
  41. underground

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    Last time Federer and Djokovic met in a slam, Federer won 6-3 3-6 6-4 6-3.
     
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    And how about the last time Federer met Nadal in a slam? Federer leads Djokovic a measly 6-5 in the slam h2h. Can't see that going in Federer's direction anytime soon... :p
     
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    be more worried about nadal's knees.

    the way things are going nadal may retire before fed hangs it up.
     
  44. ruerooo

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    It didn't look like he had his "keep his back warm" protective gear on, and especially since they were playing up north and in the evening, I was kind of wondering why.
     
  45. Goosehead

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    i didnt say fed served WELL .obviously his serve wasnt great, theres more to tennis than bloody stats..AND YOU DIDNT WATCH THE MATCH..:confused: you can't comment..:?

    get back to your knitting..or trolling, its what you came in here to do in the first place.
     
  46. Relinquis

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    so people complain about specifics like serves and such when they haven't even watched the match?! unreal.
     
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    No I did not watch the match but looked at the stats and he definitely was not serving well. When he does not serve well usually the rest of his game is not in sync. At least when he serves well it compensates for the shanks and errors he tends to make these days.

    I can comment on any match I choose to comment on, if you don't like it, put me on ignore please.
     
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    its funnier to laugh at you..as you wallow and flounder in your ignorance :)
     
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    As a Dutchman I can say it's so typical. All the big players always seem to collect their big payment for appearing in Rotterdam but they often leave early.
     
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    Well how come he always manages to get to the semi - finals /finals in the slams!
     

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