2013 Us Open Final: Serena V. Azarenka

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Winner?

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  1. Serena in 2

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  2. Serena in 3

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  3. Vika in 2

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  4. Vika in 3

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  5. One of them gets disqualifed

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  1. marc45

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    And she's the second ranked player in the world!....it's what drags women's tennis down...it's impressive what she's accomplished with a serve like that but it really is embarrassing for the game as a whole

    and ultimately as I've said before, this tour simply needs better athletes. Serena is a great athlete, but she is not without peer, in other female sports...i look at all the great track athletes, women's college basketball and soccer players.... so much quicker, stronger, more flexible...a lot of these girls are just tall...you can imagine any of the men's Big 4 in multiple sports....I can hardly say that outside of Serena and maybe Stephens now on the women's side
     
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  2. dafinch

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    <<Once again, you are re-hashing something that I already said-and this time, I already said it in the very post that you are responding to. It helps to read things carefully.>>
     
  3. TERRASTAR18

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    in my post i said the best shotmaker is winning in the wta(serena). you brought up lindsay.

    it's a joke simpleton. ljubby is just inferior to a fed. hence why you shouldn't be talking. and you call me clueless.
     
  4. TERRASTAR18

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    you need an enema? you sound real butthurt. serena is the best. i disagree with the other stuff though.
     
  5. PSNELKE

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    You said, the ATP is dominated by ballbashers (Djokovic, Nadal) and added that Serena on the other hand is a "shotmaker". So what you're telling me is that Djokodal are more of a ballbasher duo than Serena?? It's 3am. here, sorry if I'm wrong.


    What has Ljubicic have to do with the whole discussion? You make no sense at all.
     
  6. TERRASTAR18

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    you mad bro? you are a ljubby fan after all.
     
  7. dafinch

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    Frankly, I find the rankings of Pug-wanska, and, in particular, Errani-she of the Top 5 ranking(at least until recently, haven't checked the rankings after her latest flame out here)48 mph serve and 1-29 record against Top 5 players after Wimbledon-far more disturbing than Aza's. Like I said elsewhere in this thread, she's now something like 31-2 on hard courts-if the other player can't serve big, she's almost automatic, not to mention has the same number of wins vs Serena in the last year as all other players on the planet, combined, gotta give her some props for that...
     
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  8. TERRASTAR18

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    i said is better than all those other ppl.
     
  9. TERRASTAR18

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    i'm right.
    34 is better than 18.
     
  10. TERRASTAR18

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    point1- she makes more shots than them and plays more exciting points than them.


    point2- the point is a ljubby fan should try to school a fed/serena fan on tennis. that's like an mls team talking about real madrid. 3am? go to sleep i can school you tomorrow. good night my friend.
     
  11. marc45

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    definitely, that's what i mean, it doesn't cost her much outside of Serena, and at least hanging with Serena and maybe beating her once in a while will only make her tougher against everybody else..but you're right about the others...I'm sorry but what about Na Li, that's just not right for a highly-ranked veteran with major experience to have a performance like that..what is the WTA top ten worth?
     
  12. kishnabe

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    So happy Serena won.....PPL should stop hating Serena and Nadal.

    It a lot easier to move on to Azarenka and Murray hate train.
     
  13. moonballs

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    Who cares.

    The point of having tournaments is to determine who is the Champion (again, it is not determined by h2h).

    The point of having a ranking point system is to assign proper weight to different achievements in different tournaments.

    Just try win on the big stage 17 times.
     
  14. dafinch

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    Hey, I was nervous a few days ago when one of my tenants was late with the rent, while Errani is 26 years old, but has almost 7 million in career winnings, so, it's worth something, isn't it, lol?
     
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    Don't use Serena to boost Nadal. Her problems with the foot fault etc were long past and it was poor sportsmanship, not cheating.

    I like Serena, because she is really the best in WTA. Was rooting for her the whole match, was stunned by the 2nd set TB but very happy she pulled through.

    I don't like Azarenka, because of the hooting--hooting should be banned; don't like Murray, because his game sux.
     
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    With this win, Serena stakes a claim as (arguably) the best women's hard court player ever - 10 hard court slams to Graf's 9, Seles' 6, and Navratilova's 4. Not too shabby, I suppose.
     
  17. marc45

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    true, point taken, but when it comes to respect and history, achievement...I think the women's game is stagnating a bit..it seemed to be on an upswing but I sense a drifting again..once again the men will most likely outshine them tomorrow...too bad about the 3rd set today
     
  18. Roy125

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    Yup, it wasn't even a contest.
     
  19. dunlop_fort_knox

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    it's not just mph. she doesn't get her first serve in enough. terrible server for #2 in the world.
     
  20. dafinch

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    I was just thinking some more about Errani, who, of course, won all of one game against Sereana at Wimbledon, lost in the first round here, and complained about the pressure of being so highly rated. Kind of reminded me of the movie "Jerry Maguire" where talented but troublesome wide receiver Cuban Gooding Jr. is trying to latch onto some NFL team, but is perceived as being a selfish head case-thus, no job-and was telling Tom Cruise about some mundane problem that people who are having financial problems often have, maybe his car needed some repairs, or his house had to be painted, I don't remember, but I DO remember him glancing at the TV and seeing some burly NFL player being interviewed and practically being in tears. The player sobs, "People don't know the kind of pressure that comes along with a 56 million dollar contract!" Not surprisingly, this situation doesn't exactly resonate with CG, and he just snorts, "Aw, this is some BOOOLshit!" lol...

    Errani kinda sounded to me like the 56 million dollar man...
     
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  21. dafinch

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    Whatever her faults, Aza has beaten Serena twice in the last year, equaling the rest of the world's total, and has won two Slams. You wanna give some serving advice, give to your ball pusher, Pug-wanska, her serve couldn't break a pane of glass, plus she is Slamless and is gonna stay that way, your hilariously optimistic predictions notwithstanding.
     
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  22. brinkeguthrie

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    Away from the TV all day, missed the women's final. Did SW threaten to kill any of the linespeople?
     
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    She did get foot-faulted after hitting an ace at one point and paused for a moment, no doubt contemplating the urge to introduce his larynx to the ball she was holding. I'm happy to report that she successfully resisted the urge and after desperately trying to hand the match back to VA in the 2nd set, went on to win in the 3rd! :)
     
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    Can someone summarize the third set please.

    At what point did Azarenka win that one game?
     
  25. Baxter

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    Serena broke early and it was pretty much over at that point. The second set was about as good women's tennis gets, IMO.
     
  26. dafinch

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    I see you scurried back down your rat hole. You clearly don't know much about tennis, or, sports, for that matter. Did she choke? Absolutely, and, had she lost, it would've been the biggest choke, singular, of all time, even worse than Novotna, who "merely" blew a 3rd set lead, not a one set, 2 service break lead. However, she...did...not...lose, so your contention here is absurd-as was almost every statement you made in this thread. So, you get to howl about how much she chokes but was lucky to "slip by" with those 17 Grand Slams. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
     
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  27. dafinch

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    2nd game. Serena served first, and, not surprisingly, was rattled and got down 0-30, including a double. She steadied herself, held, Aza held, and then it was no more games for her. She got up 5-1, serving, 40-15, choked once more, then hit a serve that Aza hit long. I recall some people trying to say that Nadal "almost beat" Fed the first time they played a Wimbledon final, where Fed won all the odd numbered sets, just as Serena did here-meaning, they were never behind in the match-and Fed won the 5th set 6-2 there. If that's the situation and you only win one or two games in the decisive set, as BP and Aza did, you didn't "almost win" anything, not to mention, they don't ask how you won, only if you won.
     
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  28. dafinch

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    Dramatic? Ok, but, numerous service breaks,, boneheaded decisions and poor execution? I don't quite get how that was "...about as good women's tennis(sic)gets..."
     
  29. Tennusdude

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    I guess you missed the IMO. Does it matter if you get it? LOL
     
  30. marc45

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    right, and Na Li's comments after losing to Serena were almost exactly the same...you just can't have that from your top five players and then say the tour is strong

    I don't want to beat up on these girls too much, Errani in particular with her size and game at Wimbledon is in major trouble from the beginning and that's exactly what I thought would happen...Li's got more of a pedigree on hard against Serena to come up so lame...but again, none of these girls are starting with anything like Serena's gifts...think about this, who really have been the super athletes on the WTA in recent times?...Venus (sick) Henin (retired) Clijsters (retired) even Capriati (retired)...who was the one player who actually could serve and counted on it, Davenport (retired)...the tour needs more studs!..or the female equivalents...Stephens is the only one who impresses me as an athlete, and she's not as big as Serena either
     
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  31. dafinch

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    I didn't miss it, and didn't need to be told that such a comment is automatically one's opinion-and, in my opinion, a set with the elements that I mentioned is automatically disqualified from being classified as being as good as it gets.
     
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    Juicetine stands out in that group of studs like a turd in a punch bowl(in terms of size), although there is, IMO, a pretty good reason for that, and it's not strictly her natural ability and practice habits...
     
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    Really? Is THAT the best ya got? You gonna hold on to that until the next century?
     
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    Boy, you just ooze with class, don't you?:cry::confused:
     
  35. marc45

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    wow, you seemed reasonable until that....how do you even respond to that?...how much did you make as her personal trainer?...or are you her ex?
     
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    I'm not taking your meaning. IMO, she was a PED user(consistent with her brazen and ongoing cheating in the field of on court coaching, not unlike other, still active players), and her abrupt "retirement" for about 2 years right before her favorite tournament, did little to dispel that notion.
     
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    Throw another log of meaningless rhetoric onto the bonfire of empty thoughts. That blaze will soon reach the heavens.
     
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    Serena got tight and that was strange but she was thinking about the history of winning 17 slams. Serena even admitted the history got to her. However, in the third set Serena took control of the match.
     
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    But Victoria should have incentive NOW to IMPROVE she has NEVER beaten Serena at a grand slam she is 0-8 that is SHOCKING!!!

    The good thing for Vika is she has beaten Serena TWICE this year so we KNOW she can do it. However, Vika has to DO IT at a grand slam to be seen

    as a real rival. It isn't good enough to beat Serena at regular WTA events, Vika has got to do it in the slams too.

    So, if Vika wants to win a slam against Serena in a final then girlfriend NEEDS to get stronger, get a bigger serve, and get BETTER.

    Justine Henin got stronger and tougher to be Serena's rival.

    Henin is sadly retired but she was the ONLY WOMAN on the WTA who was smart enough, had the power, mixed with the variety to not only beat Serena but do it multiple times at the grand slams.
     
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    I wish Justine Henin was here to put Serena in her place.
     
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    She is more than welcome to come out of hiding...I'm sorry, I meant retirement.
     
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    She's not dead, and she's the same age as Serena. If she could, she would, but she can't (nor can Clijsters or Hingis who are a year younger and older respectively). Serena has put herself "in her place" at the champion's podium for the 17th time and in the company of the all time greats. When things got rough for her in her life, she dug deep and came back stronger. A true champion! And she's big and black and "scary" hahahahaha deal with it! Champion!

    Edit: just saw you are a new user. Didn't mean to jump on you personally...this "suck it" post is really for all the haters whose stupid, sometimes racist, drivel I've been reading for the last 2 years (and for you, too, if he shoe fits....you know if it does or not :twisted:). Anyway, just a little post match gloating, nothing personal...:)
     
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    One: Even when Henin was playing...and running like coward...then returning again and again, she was never going to be the top player of the generation.

    Two: 2010 AO final - Serena beat Henin in 3. That's the last result of her comeback. Defeat.
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I, for one, would not be looking forward to seeing more cold sores should she show her face.
     
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    Her place? You mean her throne? LOL.

    You mad, huh? Some salty folks are still licking their wounds. Hilarious.
     
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    I suspect he is not a new user but a longtime member with an equally longtime hostility for Serena / love for Henin--just hiding behind another username.
     
  48. dafinch

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    Well, let's look at that: Just Lying has admitted that she semi-tanked against Bartoli in that hilarious loss to Bartoli years ago because she was afraid to face Venus, who was awaiting the winner in the final-and Venus career, while pretty impressive, pales in comparison to Serena's. So your post doesn't make a lotta sense, Casper...
     
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    I was making fun of people wetting themselves with joy at the thought that Serena would choke away a slam.
     

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