3.5 Serve and Volley?

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  1. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

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    CindyS, Martina Nav notwithstanding, there are very few women who exclusively try to get to the net, plain and simple.
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  2. tennisplayer1993

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    it's not that common in singles
     
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  3. stapletonj

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    Even more than the pass, I think the lob kills s and v.

    Further more, the demise of the stays low skidding slice approach kills s and v.

    the hardest thing to do off a low skidding ball is to lob effectively.

    the 2nd hardest thing to do is to place a hard penetrating shot over the higest part of the net with enough pace to get past an onrushing s and v 'er, but enough topspin to keep it in the court.

    The easiest thing to do is to chip a low skidding off pace shot (which to be a winner has to be into about a 6 inch window that completely fools the volleyer, who has shaded a little to the side of the court you are on, and then drops in).....and if you can do that consistently, you deserve to win
     
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  4. tennis tom

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    I'm with you on all that SJ, but could you explain the above more fully. I'm not getting it due to having been educated in Kali. If the ball needs to be in a "6 inch window", that doesn't sound so easy--could you expand on that please?

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  5. TimeToPlaySets

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    Note to self: Next season, focus on going to the net after a skidding slice, or a deep topspin shot (as soon as I hit it, not once it lands and I get visual confirmation)
     
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  6. stapletonj

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    Sorry, I was being too vague and opaque.
    You are supposed to be able to read my mind over these here internets to catch the sub-tle nuances of my thoughts.

    The easiest thing to do with a low skidding slice approach is to slice/chip it back.

    The problem is that it will be too low (into the net) too high (a sitter) or approx 6-12" above net level.

    If it is 6-12" above net level and anywhere near the onrushing s and v'er, he or she is going to most likely knock it away for a winner.

    Slicing a pass attempt down the line off a low approach is fraught with danger and most likely not going to be successful.

    However, a crosscourt slice, esp where the s and v'er has "shaded" in the direction of the approach, has a pretty good chance of going over and going out of the reach of the volleyer. HOWEVER, you are hitting a sharp backhand slice cross court to the "short" part of the Court. The sideline will rob you of beautiful shots over and over again. (Remember, it is a slice, it has no topspin to make it dive down and grab the line) UNLESS, you take enough pace off to let our friend gravity drag it down to the court inside the white line. And the window to do that is about 6" wide.

    My point was it was REALLY hard, and if you can hit that shot consistently off my approach, you win my admiration and the match. IF not, it may not be a long day for you, but it will be a miserable one.
     
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  7. escii_35

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  8. tennis tom

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    Yup, the net is 6" higher down the line and add singles sticks to that and life becomes even tougher. That reminds me, the tournament season is starting and I better dust off my singles sticks for practicing.
     
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  9. colowhisper

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    Singles vs doubles sticks

    Tom, what are differences between your singles and doubles sticks?
     
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  10. tennis tom

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    About six inches.
     
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  11. penpal

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    I think he's referring to the sticks that hold the net higher on each side for a singles match - not racquets.
     
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