4.5 hitting with D1 woman

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  1. TennisProdigy

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    Me (4.5) hitting with D1 woman, interestingly she has a one handed backhand, and the best OHBH I've ever played against. She handles my high topspin with ease on that side. I've been playing for six years, first three years thbh, last 3 years ohbh, switched back to thbh 3 months ago, please give me any tips you may see. Continuous video, I do not expect you to watch all of it.

    Beginning of video - warm up
    crosscourt my bh to her fh - 1:30
    crosscourt my fh to her bh - 10:30
    offense/defense drill - 18:20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0xiknJSRpQ
     
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  2. TeamOB

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    Good hitting! You hit with good pace and decent control. Her OB is pretty good. What school does she play for?
     
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    For a little while I thought you were the female because of the ponytail.

    Your level is great, BTW.
     
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    Thank you, ah actually thats a headband, next time I'll wear my white one lol.
     
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    Thanks, she graduated from Toledo two years ago, she's currently training to be a pro, she just came off a hip injury that took 2 months to heal.
     
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    LOL, oddly she is hitting more topspin that you. Where does this girl play ? Level at D1 for women varies a lot. but She looks good though, hits a pretty heavy ball, looks like.
     
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    She used to hit flatter, she trains at the club that I work at and the coach there that coaches her is getting her to hit more topspin, that was the purpose of our training session, to get her used to hitting more top. I'm probably hitting more, but she takes the ball early while I hit the ball at its highest point, I'm comfortable even if the ball gets up to my head. Also, my topspin used to be more looply I've been working more on hitting "driving topspin," so more like federer on the fh compared to nadal.
     
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  8. gote4

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    no wonder.... she is much better than your run of the mill D1 women.
     
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    makes sense then. but you seem to have some problems handling up topspin shots,,, no offense. lol

    Does she play at Very competitive D1 College ? or is it one of those low ranked schools ? it seems like women that play in top 50 D1 college can really play but then outside of that they are not that impressive. I hit with a girl that played for South Carolina university which is D1 and I wasn't that impressed. She was actually having problems handling my topspins shots from both wings.

    Maybe she would have done better if she made me move side to side but straight up and back and crosscourt rallies, I was giving her problems.
     
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    The past few times I've hit with her she was hitting flatter, today was the first time she was hitting a lot of topspin, so I guess she's doing a good job if its giving me trouble haha. No idea if Toledo is a good d1 college, I hit with a guy that went there once and he was very good. If it matters, the coaches daughter plays at syracuse and is ranked 1100 wta singles and the girl in this video is just as good if not a little better in my opinion, I've hit with both of them.
     
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    Very nice hitting. That was a cool video. Love her backhand.
    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    That is very impressive, Nostradamus. Were you a college player?
     
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    Cheetah, does your name imply that you are Super fast like Nadal ?
     
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    I've been told I'm super fast like nadal at least a dozen times :p
     
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    That is a high praise. I Envy you.:)
     
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    Wow, you fell and still stayed in the point...bravo!
     
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    Toledo isn't a very strong program. Looking at their results from two years they had a losing record on a schedule that wasn't very strong and lost in the first round of their conference tournament (MAC). Far from a top 50 caliber program.
     
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    Really good hitting plus you are a really nice guy!
     
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    I bet prime LeeD would have schooled this girl.
     
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    Thanks, how can you tell I'm a really nice guy out of curiosity? :)
     
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    You are doing everything to help her game, and you are not doing anything selfish by hitting to the corners, hitting short low skidders, or anything she would not face in women's A/Open or pro tourneys.
    A lesser man would throw in a few low angles slices, would loop some heavy lefty topspin's to her backhand, and to probe for her weaknesses.
    You COULD do those things, but that would take away your "NICE GUY' moniker I chose to give you.
     
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    Well to be fair she's helping my game too, you may or may not be able to tell but compared to the second video posted in this thread, I'm a much better player now. Also, when we play sets anything goes to win those points :twisted:
     
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    Is that called symbiosis?
    A good hitting session is when both player's benefit.
    Keep up the good work!
     
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    Haha thanks, the best thing about her is she's willing to drill for 2 hours straight and she's willing to do drills that involve running. Most people I hit with only like to play sets which is not the best way to improve your game.
     
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    Is she cute?
     
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    Next time we play a set I'll get some video of her closer so you can decide for yourself :oops:
     
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    Good hitting. How do you do when you play sets against her?
     
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    OP's look reminds me of a left-handed Fabio Fognini.
     
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    Played two so far, she beat me both but I'm gonna take her next time. Her serve is very good, good placement and spin, and her fastest serve on club radar was 110. My serve on the other hand is very weak, fastest I hit a first serve is around 80 mph.
     
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    she'd have no chance against LeeD. He'd feed her steady servings of carbohydrates. Double bagels all the time.
     
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    Better question is if the OP and her are both single. Then they should hook up and make tennis playing champions.
     
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    She's so solid. Very nice to see someone play like that.
     
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    I usually don't like playing girls. When I lose to them, my ego is shattered for a long time haha
     
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    I know what you mean. When I was a first year, I played the number 1 on the womens team in a set and lost 6-2. She was hitting clean winners off my first serves.
     
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    Lee's lefty twist serve would give her fits.
     
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    Lol not sure if she is but I have a girlfriend. But the interesting thing is I gave my gf her first tennis lesson a few weeks ago, she's never played tennis before, and she had more talent and potential than any kid except for 2 prodigies I've had the pleasure to work with during my time working at tennis camps and my current teaching pro job at a club. When hand feeding her balls without telling her, she kept her head completely still at contact and actually kept it there for a full second after her stroke was completed. It took me 2 years to figure out doing so helps with a clean consistent stroke. Also when handfeeding her balls she was a complete hacker but after 30 minutes she had a full follow through on both wings and had solid contact on both wings. I'll get some video of her too, but we haven't played again for 3 weeks now, her motivation is worse than donald young in his youth :?
     
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    Is she cute?
     
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    Very cute :)
     
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    nice hitting. BITD hit with a female D1 player during her summer intern...all good.

    also nice fishing vids...one of my other "addictions". :)
     
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    You can just post videos on talk tennis to get your ego back.
     
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    Very nice hitting, thanks for posting the video. I think you meant to say above that you've been playing six years unless my math is really bad (3 + 3 = 3).
     
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  43. TennisProdigy

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    Lol embarrassing good catch on the typo, edited.
     
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    Thanks! I love me some good bass fishing
     
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    nice groundies! but what about your net play?

    I watched half of your video and was hoping to see you switch sides with your partner, to se how she was handling your shots. She obviously has great timing and a wide variety of shots to choose from.
    You look to be progressing but I saw mostly open stance foerhands. Even though most players hit this way now, it's always good to be able to crank up a closed stance forehand to finish a down the line shot, or a surprising sharp crosscourt shot, too.
    I used to see the to players have in mind as goal of getting to the net and this gives you better power and control, with a slice backhand shot, since your weight it automatically set to move in, instead of back.
    I saw many of your shots go into the net, because you seemed to want to get back to the baseline or the shot right after wasn't so hot, since you had givent your partner a sitter to get back, produced the error.

    Combining a single and a DHBH is pretty hard to do, after just 3 years of play. I had switched back and forth in my days of hitting, when I was younger..I knew I wouldn't be a competitive level layer at only 5',6", but learned every shot in the book, along the way and wS ABLE TO PASS IT ON TO MY FRIENDS, SO teaching is really my forte` and now I have been teaching kids and a couple, the basics of the game. My goal is to help ayone improve their game and get into shape, myself again..just as soon as I can get another tennis wheelchair...as mine was recently stolen after someone who had stored it for me while I was recovering from an extened illness and move to a new apt., carelessly left it outside my new apt. See my post about it, if you like.

    You are fortunate to have a hitting partner that is a little more experienced than you, so keep up the good work and hoepfully the partnership will continue to benefit you both!
     
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    a tip to help speed up your serve

    It looks like your arm is too straight and there isn't much wrist bend on your wind-up, to me.
    The cure could be some work using a "backscratch serve" to get it more compact and also get better wrist bend in it.
    Just start from the position of actually scratching your back with the edge of your racquet and blast the ball, thinking of hitting DOWN a little more, too, but finishing just inside the baseline. This seemed to help Nadal get more punch on his serve a couple years back and there is video of him working on it, here..somewhere.
    You could also try thinking about more pronation, or finishing with your thumb DOWN to get more speed and slicing that finishes thumb closer to the top, for a slice or kick serve.

    Just my opinion, take it and mess with it..see if it helps and let me know!
     
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    Thanks for the comments, one thing I'm working on is more semi-closed stance forehands and attacking more off both wings. I'm defensive by nature and being offensive is difficult for me to do mentally even though I'm very capable.
     
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    Thanks for giving some tips, actually the serves you watched me hit were a year ago, and were around 60-65 mph. My motion now is very smooth with a full backscratch, and on the club radar I reached 100 mph even though I average 80. I will post a serve video later to show my progress.
     
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    Obviously you both hit the ball really well. Her power just seems more effortless...she has a smoother stroke and still hits with equal pace. Maybe holds the racquet looser...is she taller than you? It seems like you're putting so much more into every shot..it could just be she has great timing.
     
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    Thanks, she's 5' 9", I'm 5'7. She is more effortless simply because her strokes are much more refined than mine, I am still very much in a learning phase of my tennis strokes due to my lack of experience and I believe I am only at 30-35% of my potential. No doubt about it, her timing is on a much higher level than mine, resulting in more pace and less effort, but I catch up quick so she better watch out :twisted:
     
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