$48.88 for USTA Singles!

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by Craig Sheppard, May 11, 2007.

  1. J011yroger

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    Or hitting 48 consecutive let cord winners and advancing to the 2nd round.

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  2. rommil

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    ^ I don't care if I'd get quadruple bageled by Blake, it still be an experience to play. Just blame the Jblock for disturbance lol. Seriously, I think you should consider that tournament.
     
  3. J011yroger

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    Ill check it out if it fits my schedule. Def will be playing the grass court nats aswell.

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  4. DangerDan

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    Turpin - you can't beat those entry fees for the CTA tournaments. I ran across this organization in Central Ohio with affordable tournaments: http://www.cogp.com/index.html, I think some or all of their tournaments are on tennislink as well.

    I was thinking of driving down to play some but many of them are like Mon. - Friday tournaments.

    Does the CTA in Cinci have a website or list their tournaments on tennislink?:confused:
     
  5. turpin.josh

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    Dan,

    This is all I found about the Cincinnati association: http://www.network.usta.com/publish.sps?syndicatorguid={6469DDA6-9F01-4801-9A54-518404EA0A5B}&rmasiteinstanceguid={9F71AC8C-8D3A-47D2-9F52-D3C0718411B4}&rmapageid=25&sectionid=3527
     
  6. ndtennis

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    i remeber when it was 30! USTA is making bank off us. they have what we call Monopoly
     
  7. tguru

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    Craig, Myrtle Beach tournies are $43-$48 for each doubles player.
     
  8. Codematt

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    I payed 63 dollars for 1 doubles event
     
  9. HookEmJeff

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    Try playing in a USTA National age group event as either a junior or an adult. Entry fee is twice that.

    http://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=71143

    http://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=68800


    Jeff
     
  10. tennismom42

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    $81.13 per player for one event; 81.63 per player for two events

    just paid
    $81.13 per player for one event; 81.63 per player for two events for the Kalamazoo, B18
     
  11. tennisnj

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    How can I justify saying to 1 of the kids in my tennis camp "Spend $48.88 on a 4 person draw, which includes the same 3 kids from last week's tournament; of which you beat them all 0 & 0?---Oh & that tournament is the closest one & it's 25 miles away." You can't---so I tell my kids where all the closest non-USTA tournaments are, which are of course all cheaper & offer better & deeper draws (usually). That's just how it is in Northern NJ, where most of the tournaments are in NY State & the 5 Boros.
    I run a non-USTA tournament @ the end of my summer tennis camp & we get draws (depending on the age level) ranging from 8 to 24 kids, I get local sponsors to donate prizes, gifts, trophies, etc, & it gets deeper draws than the local concurrent USTA tournaments.
     
  12. ronray43

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    Aspen, CO Labor Day tournament is $70.38 for the first event, but only an additional 62 cents for the second event!!
     
  13. beernutz

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    My tennis & swim club is only ~$600 per year and has 5 clay and 4 hard courts plus a large pool. No fitness center/marble counters/lockers of any kind but we do have a snack machine.

    We also have two club pros (husband and wife) and another teaching pro with a small pro shop. My point is that there are sometimes 'jewels in the rough' for not too much money out there if you look for them.
     
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    AND LOST 8-2
     
  15. Casey10s

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    The USTA takes a fee based on the number of entries. I don't have the information handy but if you have 50 people in the tourny, the USTA fees are about $125. The rest of the money either goes to the local USTA group or most likely the local club who is holding the tournament. I held a USTA tournament lately and I charged $15 for singles and $20 per doubles team. I supplied balls and the drinks which came to the majority in costs. After paying the USTA for the tourny fee, the rest went to the local USTA district to fund other activities. I got the courts for free next year but will probably have to rent them next year so that improvements can be made to the courts.

    For the fees, don't blame the USTA, look at who is holding the tournament to see who gets the money. The only thing I don't like is what the handling fees that the USTA charges when you sign up online.
     
  16. stanfordtennis alum

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    the usta fees today are insane... just a few years ago, the entry fees were 25-50% lower
     
  17. darrinbaker00

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    Them US Open Series commercials ain't cheap, you know. ;)
     
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    exactly... our money is going for some unnecessary ads and wildcards for our players
     
  19. goober

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    I don't play tourneys any more, but I have noticed that a lot of draws are really small, tourneys are getting canceled or specific levels are getting canceled. With the current state of the economy, I don't think a lot of people are willing to shell out $40-50 for a one weekend event especially if they end up only playing one match.
     
  20. Morpheus

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    ^^ it was great in the late 70's early 80's. We had draws of 64 or more all the time. Now you are lucky to more than 4.

    Junior tournaments seem to be doing well (maybe 16 entrants per age group). I guess parents will still shell out $35 for their kid.
     
  21. rosenstar

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    there's a big tournament I'm playing in with a $70 entry fee. Being a prize money tournament with a 10k purse, it tends to attract around 50-70 players every year. I have worked the tournament in the past so I am aware of the effort required, so have no problem paying the fee.
     
  22. tennisnoob2

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    in eastern section...they all cost that much
     
  23. stanfordtennis alum

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    yes, eastern section is one of the worst.. some tments are just $60 or more for just 1 match= not worth it
     
  24. tennisnoob2

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    yea they are some cheaper unranked ones just for fun and you get food. It amazes me that the cheaper ones give you food and are half the price.

    edit: nj is part of two sections- eastern and middle states. if you drive 30 minutes to middle states its only like 25$ compared to 60$. So is it the section controlling price or the club?
     
  25. steve260z

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    Yeah, I'm waiting for an even fifty.......
     
  26. Tennis Is Magic

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    Here in the mid west, 45 is about the average, with SE tournaments still costing about 36, consider yourself lucky.
     
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    lol. this was 2 year old thread. however, the most expensive tourn i have seen was the us open qualifier. 125 bux. usta was really squeesing people for cash on that one.
     
  28. Fuji

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    Up here it's 50.00 even for an entry for 1 match plus 1 consolation. Some range up to 75 or 80!

    -Fuji
     
  29. Darkhors

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    In MI you usually can't find a tournament for under $50 for either a SE or DE tournament and that's for pretty much all outdoor tournaments. The USTA has raised their sanctioning fees for tourny directors which is part of the reason that the prices are going up. So much for the USTA "growing the game". How do they plan on getting people in lower income regions to start playing when they can't even afford to play in one tournament????

    DH
     
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    The USTA is committed to growing the game and strives to bring those from the lower social economic class thus we have made participation in USTA leagues and tournament affordable and fun.

    The small, token amount members pay to enter our tournaments demonstrates our committment to increasing the inclusivity quotient of our sport in the US.

    The USTA executive leadership team has set an aggressive goal for ourselves by 2020, of opening access to the not just the top 1% of income earners in the USA but will make tennis affordable to those in the top 2% income brackets.

    Naturally, some members are distraught and fearful that opening our membership to those in the lower class may dilute the tennis brand but we think that if you squint just a little bit, the difference between the top 1% and the top 2% are not that obvious.
     
  31. West Coast Ace

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    Are you sure that it's Elitism? If a city is involved someone probably decided to jack up the fees to funnel the money to some other use. Like you said in another post, it doesn't cost that much to maintain a tennis facility. How often do they resurface? LOL!

    That does suck. I hope you choose not to play. The '$48.88 for one, $51 for two" is cheesy. Send the message by not supporting their silly money grab.
     
  32. Limpinhitter

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    Zzzzziiinnggg!
     
  33. goober

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    I dunno about you but the difference is pretty obvious to me. Slippery slope man... give one inch pretty soon 20 something crowd with long shorts and do-rags will be invading the tournament scene- running all balls down in such an impolite manner. It could be the beginning of the end.
     
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    Not only is all of the above making me re-think my membership status, on the two occasions that I have had a reason to call the USTA regarding membership issues, I have been connected to unhelpful and rude individuals who made it abundantly clear that they did not want to hear from peons ever for any reason. pay your money and keep your mouth shut. Pure arrogance.
     
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    Reality occasionally intrudes on fantasy. You are abandoning the core members to turn the USTA into a social services organization.
     
  37. bruintennis

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    You're best bargain is USTA adult leagues!
     
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    I joined a league with 23 players on the roster for 8 spots. Got to play doubles twice, and never got to play singles the entire season.

    So I guess it's tournaments for me...
     
  39. 10ACE

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    what's worse is at $48 there's no consolation rounds in tournaments where i play...
     
  40. goober

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    23! that is way too many. We have a limit of 18 in our district. But the best way is just form your own team with your buds and keep it small. I had a team of 11 with one of the guys being a sub only. So everybody played about 80-90% of the matches. The downside is you are not going to playoffs with this type of team. We had no depth and no ringers. But it was a lot of fun. :)
     
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    Wow, thanks for letting us know just how different it is in other places. Thats amazing that our organizers are screwing us so royally.
     
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    $48 for a tournament sounds like a deal. Here in Southern Connecticut, we (individually) pay $30 for EACH USTA league match. That's the main reason why I quit playing USTA league.
     
  43. jdubbs

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    $100? I would LOVE to pay $100. With parking at $50, laundry at $10, and the monthly fee of $230, my basic monthly fee is $280. Before stringing and other expenses. Oh, and if you play indoors, there's a steep court fee, I think around $25 an hour.

    It's about $500 -$600 a month on average. Now, it gives access to 14 different clubs, but I only really use two.

    Add in a tournament a month with travel, and I easily spend $800 a month to play tennis.

    Now, on the other hand, I do get to play a lot, and have improved a ton since I joined the club, so in my case, it's money I'm spending that I'm not spending on other entertainment options, happy hours etc. So for me it's justified, but still $800 a month to play tennis is ridonkulous.
     
  44. Sherlock

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    I am a tournament director in the Northern Section and this is now my 3rd year running tournaments. I am also a big tournament player myself (I play practically every weekend in the summer) and completely agree with all your complaints.

    I was fed up with the tournament situation and did something about it by running my own tournaments, with a goal of keeping the costs affordable and making it a fun event. This year I am running 5 tournaments. The outdoor tourneys cost $30 for singles, $20 for doubles, or $40 if you play both. This guarantees you 2 matches in each event, and all the matches are full 3 set matches as long as we have enough courts.

    We also try to do fun things like get sponsors to provide a lunch for all the players, we are giving free string and overgrips to all the players and having a racket stringing technician on site one day to give advice and provide stringing (at a reduced fee) to the players, etc.

    This year we are joining are 5 tournaments with a few others and creating a tour for NTRP and Age division players, offering prize money to the top players in the standings at the end of the season, as well as a random drawing for a trip for 2 to the 2012 US Open for everyone who played one of the tournaments! So if you are looking for exciting and someone rewarding tournaments to play in, come up to our neck of the woods.

    I'll tell you what though, everybody who plays tournaments a lot loves our tournaments and always says that and it is very rewarding to do this for people. However, the tournament directors in most situations are NOT getting rich. Last year we basically broke even (lost money actually after we factored in gas expenses for ourselves), and each tournament required about 80 hours of organizational work for each person. So we made -$0.25/hour each at that rate :)

    I don't really have a point to this post besides sharing my experience. But if you are unhappy with the situation, don't just complain. Do something about it!
     
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    i just dont understand where all the money goes. ive played tournaments on public courts. im sure they paid the city a little bit, but it couldnt have been all that much. i know my local club here uses the money they make from a tourn to resurface their courts every other year. i just dont understand how it could cost $40 a person to run a tourn.
     
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    I hear ya man. We agonized, well our assistants did, over whether to expand our membership. In the end, we felt that we had to because Sampras and Federer were sponsored by Net Jets and if they flew "rentals" then we had to open our membership to those who can't afford to buy their own jets but had to rent them.

    The thought that I had to sit in a seat on a plane that somebody had sat on is enough to give me psychological hemorhoids.

    In the end, it is good to learn to be humble, just the other day, I took my girlfriend's 930 Turbo to Fashion Island and I wasn't a bit embarassed to be seen in it. A 930 Turbo in Newport is like a bicycle in Bejing but I credit our new, more inclusive membership policy for my growth as a human being.
     
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    You're right. To cover only the costs the entry fee would be a lot less. But don't the organizers deserve some money for organizing and running it? It's a lot of time to invest in running a tournament. If it seems like such a lucrative thing, try putting on one yourself and see the truth.

    I could probably run a tournament where registration costs $10 or $15 and maybe cover my expenses if I get enough entries. But then I would be spending 50 hours of my time and getting nothing out of it.

    The problem is, at least in my experience, decreasing the fee past a certain point doesn't increase the number of players, and so all I'm doing is taking in less money. I would much rather charge $30 and give the players extra perks like Gatorade, fruit, etc. This has the effect of keeping the numbers the same, and making everyone happier that it was a fun experience. Plus I get to make a little bit of money at the same time.

    If you want to have a real discussion about tournaments I'm willing. I have a lot of experience so I can tell you all about it. Just put in a little research into what goes into organizing any type of event first. You might think putting on a 5K/marathon would be a moneymaker, but there is a lot that has to go into it.
     
  48. Sakkijarvi

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    Ach, sports on every level is now a royal scam. Youth sports, what a racket, what a ripoff. My kids had good outcomes, got something out of it ... but I did not fail to see how dishonest the realm, and its acolytes ... is along the way.

    I don't enter these USTA events as a singles player because the cost is a joke here in the NY area.
     
  49. RedWeb

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    classic! :)
     
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    Tournaments keep going up and up and up in price because tournament directors, especially at clubs, know they will still get a good number of people who will pay it. For several years I ran public parks tournaments here in NC, and I always made it a priority right from the start to keep the cost as low as I absolutely could. I placed much more value on putting on a great tournament that people loved, told their friends about, and wanted to come back to the next year, than I did on trying to maximize my profit. Sadly, that isn't the case at most clubs. My guess is that those runing the tournaments can get a cut of the profits and a weekend tournament with 150 participants, some playing more than one event...well, you do the math. My weekend tournaments gave high quality t-shirts to every participant, had cookouts on Friday night AND pizza feeds on Saturday, doughnuts and coffee each morning, provided tables of fresh fruit, bagels, drinks, and munchies all weekend long, gave away large, beautiful engraved platters and trays to winners, runners-up, and consolation winners, and STILL made money to go into the coffers to upgrade the courts or provide other tennis events. The income was sufficient to pay for the tournament referee and all our advertising---which was considerable. My entry fees for these tournaments??? Singles were $20.00 and doubles were $30.00 were $30.00 per team. I gave the same number of trophies away whether I had 8 entries in a division or 24, so why not encourage a lot more players to enter? If you are not paying for court time, it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to put on a tournament, even a really nice one. Trouble is too many clubs use these events like cash cows with no real regard for the participants. I've played leagues and tournaments for years, but I won't enter a tournament nowadays and pay upwards of fifty bucks for a couple hours of hardcourt tennis and a quick, "Thanks for playing. See ya next time." I can get the same thing by getting together with friends at the public park courts and bringing a two dollar can of balls. Sad state of affairs.
     

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