Discussion in 'Strings' started by Up&comer, Sep 23, 2011.
Ok guys, nothing to see here....this kid is a genius LOL!!
very impressive, lol!
Being that U&C can answer that without flinching, I'll refrain on thinking I'm old until my daughter starts to look at me like I'm making things up with my wild and crazy stories of cassette tapes...
Cassettes were such a pain in the butt. Back then we could never imagine carrying phones in our pocket with all our music.
shoot, back then we couldn't imagine carrying phones in our pockets, much less ones with music!
I remember when the advent of Dolby C was state of the art. Reduced the hiss on my car stereo dramatically. Lol, the 'good ole days'.
I'll write the review for ruff code after another hit. Sorry for the delay, I wanted to finish out the Scorpion.
I'm not sure how I feel about the ruff code yet.
Where do you get all the money for gut? I'm jealous
I string for alot of juniors around me.
My parents also throw in a little.
One thing I'd like to say. You guys are crazy to think that a top 6th grader in the nation is anything less than a 4.5. Period.
I've had the opportunity to hit with the number one in the nation, and I can tell you for sure there's no way he's a 3.5-4.0. He almost beat a 4 star freshman thats almost a 5 star.
Just had to close that discussion.
I agree with you on the raw talent aspect. However, a "5.0" rated junior is going to lose every time to the 5.0 rated 28 year old. Why? Age has benefits that only the greatests of talents can supersede. Becker, Hewitt, Chang, Nadal. They were the young guns that could hang with the big boys. Not even Federer, Agassi, Edberg, Wilander, McEnroe or even Sampras for a long time could. There is something about having all of the talent in the world, and then being at that age where your skill catches up to your mental game, your overall fitness and your strategy. This is the reason why juniors are purposely not ranked using the NTRP scale.There are intangibles which separate them from adults, regardless of playing ability.
us older folks are sneaky.
If I use 52/56 for my B5E/Thunder Blast tension, what would you recommend for B5E/gut. PVAudio sent me a pack of Performaxx and Unifibre that I think I'll finally string up.
I kept it the same, and it felt great. Its winter, so I'd keep it the same, maybe bump it up to 53/57 or 54/58 because It's a lockout. I mean, I'm not entirely sure about the power level of performaxx, but I know pacific classic is lower powered (sorry, thinking out loud here), so I'd ask PV about that.
I'm going to say try going up a pound or two because you like a lower powered setup.
Yep, I will check with PV. Figured I'd start with you since you have tried my setup too.
Yeah, I just dont have experience with performaxx or unifibre.
Alrighty. Technifibre ruff code full bed 51/49
Stringing- not easy. About like bhbr except it didn't coil up as much.
Groundstrokes- really good. It's pretty low powered, but it still has some power. Spin was abundant, and control was there. Consistent response, and hit a pretty heav ball.
Serves- great for kicks, but flat serves we're lacking. I mean, it's not bad, but it wasn't easy to lay it out with this setup.
Volleys- woah. Not where you want alot of spin. There wasn't alot of feel. It was just not a very good setup for volleys.
Durability- pretty good. Not one of those strings that goes dead too quickly and breaks soon. Its probably going to be good for a poly.
Softness- 1 being the softest...ah you know the drill.
This was a pleasantly surprising string from the baseline. It was like a lower powered bhsr with really good spin. It was just so lacking at the net. This would be a great setup for a baseline grinder.
Do you still want the hybrid setup of ruff code, whoever recommended it?
I strung up B5E/Unifibre gut last night. Initial thoughts on stringing here:
Cool. What did you string it at?
I strung it the same as B5E/Thunder Blast being 52/56 on a lockout. My description of the stringing experience to PVAudio was a little more colorful than I can get away with posting here. It was still good to finally work with it.
First ones always the hardest. Wait till you have to string gut mains and tour bite crosses. Talk about colorful language...
The worst though, is a gut who insists on vs mains and bbo rough crosses in his blx 95 18x20. I'm sooo close to not stringing for him any more.
What are you even talking about? Not only is he right, but he's being about as objective as anyone I've ever seen post.
Yes, yes it was :lol:
I can see why people charge more to string gut. The Unifibre is uncoated and VERY rough. Combine that with a sharp poly and you can take the fun factor out of stringing.
Thanks again for sending it. Should get a chance to hit with it an hour from now.
It'll be interesting to see what you think.
Here ya go:
Yep, the difference is marginal but noticeable.
Pretty much everything in your review of B5E/Gut I agree with.
Maybe use it as a main with Addiction or N.VY crosses. Using these crosses could soften the stringbed and help with the volley issue. Just a guess.
U & C-
Have you used TCS full bed, 17 gauge?
Ive used it in a APD GT and it is low powered and very plush. I dont notice that big of a tension loss, at least within the 8-10 hour mark. I suggest you try it if you havent.
Yeah. I'm thinking about just going over to thunderblast crosses simply because it's cheaper.
Alright. I'll do the hybrid. I might do TCS.
Agreed. If I find a gut that just blew me away than I might reconsider. Still got WhisperTouch to try out.
Yep. I mean, the gut definitely plays better for me. The playability to cost ratio isn't completely justifiable though.
If one has three rackets, one may string two of them with the multi cross (Thunderblast in this case) and have one strung with the gut cross for those "important matches"" where you want the best stringbed available.
That is my case right now. Every match is "important" though.
And just for the record, playtests always take priority over these tests.
a former high school player and i could have played at a d3 school, but taking a year off,so i am good, not great, but i know what i am doing.
Im swinging a radical mp stock(with leather and og). and ive been playing with a full bed of a 3rd gen poly. I like it but im not that strong of guy so i need a little bit more power. but i need to keep that spin because that's how i play (think andy murray)
with that all in mind, can you recommend a solid set-up that is also budget friendly. maybe 20bucks per racket er so.
For lots of spin and power, you might want to look at guts like pacific classic and msv co-focus for a cross. If you want lower power, you could use black5edge or scorpion as a cross.
If you still want a lower power level, you could try scorpion mains and maybe babolat addiction crosses.
All those come out to under $20 if you string yourself.
Probably start with gut/poly for the higher power level.
U&C, there is no link to full Thunder Blast in post #1.
Got it. Sorry about that.
Somebody else in another thread was looking for it. After many string tests, it is easy to forget documenting something. Been there done that.
I used the stock Rad MP for a few months, and found the best combo of spin and power to be a full bed of Polystar Energy. More power than most polys out there, and still retains the control and spin of poly. Tension loss can be an annoying feature of the string, but once you find the right tension, it's great!
hi U&C, just wanted to ask about your final thoughts about
RIP VS thunderblast -
I noticed the only main differences you wrote were
Durability and softness..
Any conclutions on that ? (Thunderblast got 6.5- was that mainly the color loss or were there other aspects?)
Thunderblast was stiffer, felt better, and was sooo much more predictable.
so the black color loss is no biggy?
also, you seem like a net kinda guy,
you'll also prefer Genesis for a baseline worker?
For the price, definitely. Obviously something like babolat xcel performs better, but thunderblast has low power and ample spin.
Color loss is purely aesthetic.
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