A couple string tests

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  1. mikeler

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    High powered and muted sounds different.
     
  2. gprodger

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    Could you suggest a string that would give me the strength, speed and reflexes of someone 1/2 my age in league play.
     
  3. mikeler

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    I've got the perfect string for you. Can't remember who makes it but it is called FOY and only helps in league play. In practice, the magic is just not there.
     
  4. Up&comer

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    Very much so. I'm liking it more than the scorpion mains, but it's nowhere close to b5e.
     
  5. Up&comer

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    I'll write up a review of sppp hex once I get on a computer. My sample set of mantis strings came today (one of each).

    Ill be doing full beds of comfort and power poly. Not sure what I'll do with the comfort and power synthetics.
     
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    Send the comfort synthetic my way, thanks. You'll break it in 30 seconds. :)
     
  7. Up&comer

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    ^^ Nahhh, I think it would last at least 40 seconds.

    I just strung up the mantis power poly. Full bed at 51/49. I'll try to test it out tomorrow. It's a little rainy today.
     
  8. Posture Guy

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    one question for you guys. If your primary string setup includes some gut, do you keep a spare racket strung with non-gut for damp days?

    I know in the days when I was playing as a kid back in the 70s, and when I splurged for that old Victor Imperial with the blue spiral, gut got along with water about as well as the wicked witch of the west. Is that about the same these days or has that changed?
     
  9. Up&comer

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    Back when I could use gut, I generally kept a full poly or a hybrid accordingly.
     
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    the power syn is not as powerful as the name implies (the lux alu power also bears "power" in it's name and is not really powerful) and it really keeps going quite a lot as crosses. mates really well with both the power poly and the comfort poly!

    i bet a set of mcs you don't break it in 45 sec.:)
     
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    Looking forward to hearing about the comfort poly.
     
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    Odd that you say that, as I just strung it up to do a side by side comparison, and I would've sworn that the comfort was the power and vice versa stringing them up. The comfort felt noticeably stiffer in hand than the power. The comfort also pings really loud while the power is much more muted and even softer sounding if you know what I mean.

    On the bounce test, though, they felt almost identical, with the comfort ever do slightly edging out in the softness department. It's not the mushy soft that I was expecting, but more of a firm soft. The power poly felt like any modern co poly.

    Now I'm probably going to regret making such a detailed assumption off a bounce test, but the feeling of the comfort poly is so odd.
     
  13. Up&comer

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    Hit with the comfort and power poly. I definitely liked the power poly more. I'll hit with both again, but the comfort disappointed me.
     
  14. mikeler

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    What kind of spin are these two producing?
     
  15. RyKnocks

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    Hmm, MCS isn't really impressing me either. It's super soft which I like but super low powered as well. Great for pushing back those bullet serves but I'm having to work a little extra on everything else.

    What else would I expect from a low powered string in a low powered racquet right? Strung at 55/53
     
  16. Up&comer

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    Both are pretty good. Not great, but good. They're both on the powerful side for polys.

    Oh, and just for fun, in doing a full bed of MCS tomorrow to see how fast I can break it. It's grinder day tomorrow, so that will be the true test.

    In case you're wondering, grinder day is when we drop feed elevens for 2 and a half hours and you can only win a point of your opponent makes an error. Fun.
     
  17. mikeler

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    MCS and RIP Control are both very unique and definitely not for everyone.

    Poor MCS.
     
  18. Up&comer

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    ^^ you might like the power poly, but the comfort poly wouldn't be for you.
     
  19. mixedmedia

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    If you don't mind me posting a question in here, I was wondering if you, U&C, or mikeler could help me.

    Would you compare the stiffness of a 58/58 Gamma Pro 16g (should I tension multi mains and crosses differently?) string bed to that of 54 Pacific Classic/50 Co.-Focus and 54 Pacific Classic/50 Scorpion? It's in a Head YT IG Speed 18x20. Any other characteristic comparisons would be awesome! Thanks!

    I played with the Gamma Pro before and remember liking it, but durability wasn't the best. I switched to poly crosses to try and get more spin, with gut mains to soften it, but it still seems sort of stiff, especially the Co.-Focus. Maybe I have something wrong in my form, but I have a lot of matches coming up.
     
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  20. Up&comer

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    I'm not sure what you are referring to with "prince classic."
     
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    Oh man, I knew it looked weird when I typed it, but it didn't quite register: I meant Pacific Classic... Now edited to reflect that. Boy, do I feel stupid.
     
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    If I remember correctly, the gut mains/ poly cross at the lower tension should be softer compared to gamma pro. The co focus hybrid will have more spin and power, but less control. The scorpion hybrid will have less power, slightly less spin, and alot more control. I personally think it performs better at net as well.

    Hope I got everything.
     
  23. mixedmedia

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    Huh, really? It still seems to be taking a toll on my arm. Any ideas?
     
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    In that case, get rid of the poly.
     
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    Used Babolat Hurricane Feel in APD Gt at 46 mains/44 crosses. Nice blend of control and power. Not to soft, not too stiff. At this tension it felt very good specially for my topspin strokes. Before this, I tried Pacific Polygut but too much power in the gut mains. Will stick with this Hurricane Feel unless the LTEC strings Im going to try next really impress me.
     
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    have any of you guys played with volk cyclone tennis string? In the market for some new string, and was just interested about this one. It looks decent, and the price is even better.

    thanks for any information
     
  28. Boricua

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    I am stringing my backup racket with it. Will see how it plays this weekend. I have heard mixed reviews but TW representatives that I have spoken on the phone with highly recommend it. For the price, nothing wrong in trying a set.
     
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    I'm not really trying to be a S.A., but what does "It looks decent" mean? I understand that the price is attractive. I bought a set of 17g based on reviews and price. I probably won't have it strung until some time next month, though.
     
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    in regards to the fact that most of the reviews on tw shop were positive, but I trust the reviews here a lot more
     
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    Cyclone 18g is my personal favorite string. No matter how many other new, old, expensive, cheap, etc. strings I try I always come back to it. The combo of spin, control, feel and right amount of power is great for my game. If you factor in the price it is even better. It doesn't last very long but in my racket, YT Extreme Pro, no other string does either.

    All the tennis shops I've talked to highly recommend Cyclone and for sure it isn't because they make tons of money on it.
     
  32. mixedmedia

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    Okay, and I think I may. Is there any reason to go with multi over gut? At least in hybrid, the gut doesn't seem to give me the feel I originally thought it would, or maybe I've become used to it. Also, the pain has been on the outer part of my shoulder some but mostly in my wrist and lower forearm. I think I'm cocking my wrist too much, but is there something else that could contribute to it?

    Thanks, guys!
     
  33. Up&comer

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    Alrighty. Mantis Power Polyester 51/49

    Stringing- Pretty easy. It felt softer than comfort poly stringing it up. No real problems.

    Groundstrokes- Very good. I'm used to B5E, so this was a little powerful in comparison. However, once I compensated, it played great. It had surprisingly good spin potential. I had to adjust my stroke to more of a brushing action on rally shots, but on put aways I felt perfectly confident swinging away. It felt like most modern co-polys. It held tension pretty well. One thing that did happen was that it started moving after about 3 hours. Not dead moving, but moving like fresh tour bite. It wasn't dead. Just the middle main would move after I hit it.
    Overall- 9/10

    Serves- Awesome. I mean awesome. The power was completely there, I just had to place it. I was bombing first serves. I don't know if I'm just in a rythm right now, but I served great with this stuff. Kicks were heavy (even my opponents commented on it) and slices skidded. Just great.
    Overall- 10/10

    Volleys- Meh. Average for a poly. Not too much to say here.
    Overall- 7/10

    Durability- Slightly below average for a poly. Broke in 6.5 hours.
    Overall- 8/10

    Softness- You know the drill
    Overall- 7.5/10

    All in all, this string performed great. I was hitting my groundies and serves about as well as I ever have. I did miss the little extra at net, but all in all I really liked it.
     
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  34. Up&comer

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    BTW Mike, I broke the MCS in 23 minutes of baseline grinding.
     
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    Is the pain more in the scapular or acromial region?
     
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    up&comer,
    i'm really very happy that there is another "reputed" poster and tester (i'm serious!!!) that appreciates this string. i always said that so far i have not found many shaped/textured strings to prduce significantly more rpm's than this one, specially when you have played past three hours and the shape/texture has worn down.

    interesting is also the durability - you are much younger and most probably hit a faster ball than i can nowadays, but 6.5h is pretty good in my opinion - heavy practice hitting assumed. i get anywhere between 8-10 hours in the mean time, depending on how much drills or point play is involved.

    i have never tried the mcs in fullbed but maybe you also give it a try in a hybrid with the power poly. i'd really love to see what you think about MY reference set-up.:)
     
  37. Up&comer

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    ^^ thank you.

    Keep in mind it wasn't just drilling, I was doing fitness tennis. In other words, endless grinding rallies. Strings don't last me very long doing that.
     
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    i had a chance to hit with a former futures player some months back and on that occasion a string only lasted for 4 hours, but that is the exception. while i would love to have more often such opportunities, i hope that my son will rise up to that level in the next few years. with him i have gone down from roughly 12 hours on a stringset to around 8-10 in the mean time, so from this point of view there is some real progress he has made (but not enough yet!:)).
     
  39. mixedmedia

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    The acromial region.
     
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    You are an animal!
     
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    Anterior or posterior?
     
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    Thanks (I guess?)
     
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    Hard to say. What I can say is it feels pretty much at the joint and right behind it (if you stretch your arm across your body, it would be right around the sort of point/knob that your shoulder forms). It feels like the upper edge of my shoulder if that makes sense. Any ideas what's causing it?
     
  44. Up&comer

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    Huh. I'm summoning all my anatomy knowledge on this one. It sounds like the deltoid miscle, in which case it could be caused by either hitting a violent slice backhand moving your shoulders without your arm or trying a nadal like stroke. One other thing that could really hurt it would be if on a serve your arm dropped too far down behind your back (if you know what I mean).
     
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    Hmm... On my serve I do have a problem of letting my arm and elbow drop too far sometimes. What about if I'm not moving through my shots? Would that contribute? I'm trying to determine whether or not I should switch to multi or gut then back to gut/poly or just give up on poly, i.e. how much form is contributing and how much string is.

    Also, is there any reason to use multi over gut?

    Thanks for all your help!
     
  46. Up&comer

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    Truthfully, if you can afford it, use gut. However, I would personally suggest just using multis. Mikeler would do a better job directing you to which one to use.

    And yes, not moving through your shots would definitely contribute to some of the pain unless you are completely ripped. I would still suggest using a multi until your arm and shoulder are healed. If it's your arm, stick with multis for a while after your arm feels better and make sure to strengthen your arms.
     
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    Sorry, yes. Make sure you have proper form. Improper form would definitely contribute.
     
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    Yeah, I've been lazy on the gym aspect... Thanks, Up&comer!
     
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    What bugs me is that none of the people I play with have problems, and they play with poly/multi and full poly in the mid 50s to low 60s. And they look to have worse form...
     
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    Well, generally it happens when the bad form causes a tweak or pull.
     

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