Discussion in 'Strings' started by Up&comer, Sep 23, 2011.
Ytex Quadro Twist may be this year's hot newcomer.
See my post for RSI results.
Has anyone hit with it yet? Or are we drawing conclusions off test numbers?
Not just numbers. Playtest results. 35+ playtesters.
I looked for your post, couldn't find it.
Is there a link to that playtest?
It's the latest RSI magazine. Try RSI.com/playtest
USRSA members get it first.
It is online. The playtest seems shorter than other ones I remember reading. If you look at playability ratings, one would think this was just an average string. It does not match the text. The string case looks pretty cool and once again we have ANOTHER black string. I'm really hoping purple makes a comeback.
I would love to have a really good poly that's the same color as hurricane feel or co-focus.
RSI.com apparently has nothing to do with tennis.
If anyone has a link, I'd love to check this out. Is it a poly or a multi or what?
You talking about that nice blue? It's gorgeous...
I know, right?
How badly I wish all my strings were that color.
Sorry, that's racquetsportsindustry.com
Forgot to write this one up.
Mantis Comfort Poly 51/49
Stringing- I would have sworn that it was stiffer than the power poly. It was pretty easy to string up, though. No problems.
Groundstrokes- They were ok. Nothing great, and pretty average spin. It was a more powerful poly than I'm used to, and it wasn't as control oriented. It did have a nice feel to it. It pinged really loudly, though.
Serves- Again, average. Decent spin, and I could hit it pretty hard, but it was nothing above average for a poly in it's price range.
Volleys- I don't know. I just didn't like it. I honestly can't really say why, but it just doesn't work for me. I just didn't ever feel comfortable up at net.
Durability- Average for a poly
Softness- 1 being the softest, 10 being the stiffest
Overall, it's a decent poly string. It doesn't really do much well, but there weren't any horrible weaknesses except it's netplay. It might work better in a hybrid.
I'll post a review of the Fed setup once it breaks. I've been hitting on and off with it to see how it plays over extended periods of time.
I compared the feel and playability of Hurricane Feel and Volkl Cyclone, liked Hurricane Feel much better.
Havent tried it but Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite comes in that blue color. Ive hearrd its soft for a poly, powerful and good tension maintenance.
Interesting about Mosquito Bite. How would it compare to Scorpion and B5E?
It was interesting, I've been playing with gut mains and MSV Co-Focus crosses with no problem. Tried the same setup but with Scorpion crosses and IMMEDIATELY got elbow pain. I found that odd, but it was what it was.
To that end, I've got half a pack of Scorpion. If anyone wants it, I'm happy to send it off to you if you're willing to pay the postage. Otherwise I'm just gonna toss it, definitely not playing with that anymore.
From my experience Gut/Alu Rough gave great feel, control, spin, controlled power, comfort. One of the, if not the, best setup ever. Only drawback is it plays horribly against fullbed RPM...
Mosquito bite is more of a light blue than the deep blue of co-focus.
At what tension did you try it compared to Co.-Focus? And what gauge us it?
Supercable Pro is "bile yellow". Disgusting color.
But if it plays as well as you say it does...
And it moves around like crazy...
Wilson gut/alu rough 56/53 with Federer style string savers
Stringing- Pretty easy. The alu rough is a pain in the crosses, but if you are careful there aren't any problems.
Groundstrokes- Good. Pretty spin friendly. However, this was no better than any other gut mains setup I've used. I wanted it to be. I wanted there to be a reason to pay up for the ALU rough. But there wasn't. The wilson gut is slightly springier than the classic I normally use, but that didn't make a huge difference, but it did make a positive difference. Feel was phenomenal.
Serves- again, no better than anything else I've used. Flat serves were really good, though. Kicks and slices were average.
Volleys- Excellent. I was killing volleys with this setup. Touch shots were out of this world. It was just awesome.
Durability- the string savers help some, but the rough is still tearing the gut up.
Softness- You could feel the ALU, but the Wilson gut was so soft. 1 being the softest, 10 being the stiffest
Overall, this setup only truly impressed me in one way. Net play. It played incredibly at net. Everything else was average for a gut mains setup.
Did you hit a little bit without the string savers? I'm wondering if they actually help with spin as some claim.
And I've been shopping this question around without a direct answer, so I figured I'd give it a go here, if you don't mind. Do you see any risk in extending the life of a gut/poly (probably Scorpion) setup too long; is there a danger associated with playing too long with poly, even with gut mains?
Yes. Play with dead poly even in a hybrid and it's gonna be a lot tougher on your arm.
Was playing with my gut/co focus hybrid and one day the playability wasn't as good and when I walked off the court my elbow was a little sore. Had about 18 hours on that stick. time to cut those strings out.
Dead poly is dead poly.
It will be calmed some by the gut, but be careful not keeping it in there.
Okay, thanks a lot, guys. That's what I was thinking when I started looking into string savers. I guess the ideal would be to have it timed so when the poly is dead, the gut breaks. Or do string savers have other benefits?
Not with that setup.
I have with gut/b5e, and it made for a slight increase in spin and a slightly tighter feeling string bed.
Okay, thanks for your help!
Oh, and for the record I have been slowly dropping my tension. Right now I'm at full power poly at 45/43 and it feels fine.
I think a slow drop is the way to go, but I would expect that is nearing the limit, especially if you want to incorporate gut back in at some point.
Unless I get some kind of sponsorship, gut is going to be too expensive to use.
I figured...You just blow right through it! How long would it have to last to be worth it for you? Also, how has not using it affected your game?
I'd say 10 hours as a cross.
It was an adjustment at first. I'm used to full poly now, but I would still love to go back to a hybrid if I could afford it. The problem is that no matter how soft or powerful, no full bed of poly has that same feel of a hybrid. I had a little slump at first, but I'm picking it back up again.
And you tried string savers and some of the more coated gut, i.e. Performaxx? Also, you prefer poly/gut to gut/poly for durability and the way it feels, right?
It wouldn't matter much. Tough gut lasts maybe another hour compared to classic. It just would help much.
Definitely prefer poly/gut.
Ah, I see. Well I'm glad you've adjusted to the full poly. How did you decide on the poly you did?
I got a 40% off discount on mantis strings. It just plays really well in all areas.
Nice. How long's it lasting now, compared to at a higher tension? Have you noticed any significant changes as you've been dropping tension or just better longevity?
I get much more feel, more spin, and a slightly loopier trajectory.
It lasts about the same amount of time, maybe an hour more.
Cool, cool. Thanks for the info! I assume that you do have to consciously go for more spin though to keep it from going long though, right--it provides and requires more spin?
Not really. It wasn't really much of an adjustment. I definitely have to be aware that it won't be a flat trajectory, but as far as putting more spin on it, not really.
Thanks, U&C! I'll stop pestering you for now.
Haha. It's fine.
Just had a hit with MPP/Nvy.
First off, I missed hybrids so much.
Secondly, Nvy makes a great cross. I strung at 49/51 and it actually feels too tight for me. Funny how my preferences change.
I apologize for the dumb question, but what are those strings?
Mantis power poly/babolat Nvy.
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