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Discussion in 'College Tennis Talk' started by WARPWOODIE, Aug 11, 2014.

  1. WARPWOODIE

    WARPWOODIE Rookie

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    I had a discussion with another parent recently about players who have certain reputations, such as cheating, and how if ever that reputation can affect their chances in the recruitment process? We're talking of players that have had numerous suspensions in their respective USTA sections.

    Your thoughts please.
     
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  2. JLyon

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    it would have a big impact but if the player is good enough the coaches will still take them on.
     
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  3. jaggy

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    I think the coach should take them on and then make it clear the expectations that standards in college need to change. Not all make this development as we know.
     
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  4. matchplay

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    most coaches understand who the bad eggs are and include current players opinions as well. Most coaches will stay away from problem kids, plus problem parents, as it all starts with them.
     
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  5. andfor

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    What coaches say and what coaches do are often two very different things. On paper it makes sense that would be the case. Having been very close to college tennis the last 3 years, you'd be surprised what is tolerated. Are there cases and situations that would cause a coach to not recruit a player? Sure. Mostly it would have to do with a current player or potential recruit saying they do not want the player on the team or won't play for the coach if a certain player shows up. But once the player is on scholarship or the NLI is signed, the joker is then wild.

    I agree with what JLyon said. The coach is going to take a player if he thinks the contribution to winning outweighs the negatives. I've also seen numerous problem cases dismissed from teams, and seen more second chances than one would think are deserved.
     
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  6. matchtime

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    Don't underestimate the influence the team has in the process. Having a bad reputation can completely affect recruiting. "Cheater Kid" (who had screwed these college players in juniors) was not recruited by a certain school because the team said no way. As a group, they have quite a bit to say on certain teams, or even just a captain can carry a lot of weight with his coach. Of course, CK spins it to say he was recruited by this school and simply chose another one, so the world thinks everyone wanted CK, not true. Eventually gets a school to take him cause some coach thinks ability is worth the price and messes up their dynamic for his time there, not liked by any of them. It happens.

    Many times even a new recruit that has committed to a school has influence on the other recruits being looked at. I know several instances where they were asked about this player or that player.

    You just don't hear about the schools that don't take certain players, because that player/parents is out there saying they could have gone there with a full scholarship. Oh brother.
     
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  7. Clemson_tennis

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    Unless a player has an abysmal reputation (Michael Redlicki) it does not play much of a factor. College players holding grudges over maybe 1 shaky call from years ago is not going to override the potential for the player to make the team better. Players forgive and forget and understand the competition and respect their opponents, with a few rare exceptions of course.
     
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  8. matchtime

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    Ya, I don't think players hold grudges on a call now and then, that is competition. But every section has a true CK (usually trained professionally by a parent) and they may pay a price for it, depends if coach/team thinks they will be disruptive/negative to the team or if they can work with them.
     
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  9. andfor

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    Even then Redlicki had shot with Duke and we won't be surprised if he shows up on his brothers roster this year or next. Dumont and Bogarts were known cancers at Miss. St. and got on with Wake last year and played most every match. I can name many more bad apples who got to play college ball. Look, I'm certainly not advocating bad behavior, I actually detest it. Often, when that bad behavior carries over to the college ranks its met with repercussions. Some of which are harsh. However,let's not overstate that a player's poor reputation equates to not being able to attain a tennis scholarship and play college tennis. When tennis scholarships are concerned, coaches will make their own decisions primarily based on if the kid can contribute to his team winning first. The rest of the stuff he's seen before and is ready to handle when the kid show up and starts to practice and play.
     
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  10. tennisbuck

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    I know of instances of coaches not wanting to recruit players based on their on court attitude..but i guess thats a little different
     
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