A question about Roddick's 246(?) km/h serve.

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  1. The Grand Slam

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    It may have been the fastest serve, but did it land in? Was it an ace, if so (more than likely)? Or was it a fault? If it was a fault, then what's the fastest serve of all time that's landed in?
     
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  2. Spindarella

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    It landed in. A serve must land in for the speed to be officially recorded.
     
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  3. Alexandros

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    As I recall it was at Queens against Andre Agassi, who did manage to return it.
     
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    And there's a lesson in that for everyone, really.... I believe the following is trademarked to Pirelli, but it's very relevant to tennis: "Power is nothing without control" ;)
     
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    Roddick's placement isn't bad, and with that power he's at the very least going to get a fairly weak return, even from the greatest returner of all time.

    Didn't Agassi win that point?
     
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    Why the heck would they count it if it was a fault? :confused:
     
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    Wasn't Roddick's fastest serve against Paradorn Srichaphan?

    On another note, Brad Gilbert once said that Roddick serves in the 170's during practice, but that the balls rarely land in the service box.
     
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  9. Chadwixx

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    Keep in mind the record was set on the juiced gun. Only davis cup and queens use it, while the other tournaments use a different gun. Roddicks record setting serve would have only been about 135 on the real gun.
     
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  10. splink779

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    Roddick has hit over 150 at the US Open more than once.
     
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  11. Chadwixx

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    But his record breaking serve wasnt.

    Safin also hit a 165 but they disallowed it.
     
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  12. splink779

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    So then according to you he was really serving 170 at the US Open?
     
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  13. Chadwixx

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    If they used the gun they used at stella and davis cup it would have been. I forget what the % difference is but it was like 10-15%.

    Do a search there was extensive debate on this a year or so ago.

    The gun in the grand slam events is more accurate than the one he set the record on.
     
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  14. Volly master

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    i remember at cincy last year, he hit a 150 agaisnt ferrero, but it was called out
     
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    I remember somone mentioning on ESPN that at some minor tournament there'd be a fastest serve contest in which Roddick was taking part. Someone asked why in the world they would have such a thing (when Roddick was clearly the only big server in the contest) and Cliffy summarized it pretty well,"I guess Andy needs something to feel good about these days".
     
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    Keep in mind... this was said by Brad Gilbert... ;)
     
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  17. Lakoste

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    A couple days ago ILoveCarlos told me in the chatroom that Flipper his a 156mph serve during a match on TV....:shock:
     
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    The guns are a bit off, but not that much; Roddick used to manage 140s and maybe a 150 or so every now and then in Slams. I believe I've seen it before.
     
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    Yes,I remember at the U.S. Open last year in his 1st and unfortunately for him his last match,he served at either 150 or 155.Not sure which but one of the two for sure...
     
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    It was 150 mph. He served the fastest serve of the tournament in just one match :p I recall Roddick serving a 152 mph bomb against Blake in this year's Stella Artois Championships but that was straight to Blake's forehand or backhand so he didn't have much problem returning it. Surprisingly, in that match it seemed Roddick just wanted to hit hard serves in not thinking a lot about accuracy and that wasn't really working against Blake.
     
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    Roddick should get one of those rackets with a 125 sq inch head and string loose at around 40 lbs
     
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    what about Becker? I remember an ad, which says that BB served at 269 km/h (168 mph)
     
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    Chris Guccione had a 154 mph ace and a 152 mph service winner in the same match. I was watching it on TV, and saw the serve speed on the Davis Cup website. Let me tell you... IT WAS SCARY!!!
     
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    Would it count if the serve was called an ace and it was like say 300 kph and Hawkeye showed if it was a fault? Would they record it?
     
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  25. OrangeOne

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    My understanding is that if the point is awarded, the serve counts. Right now Hawkeye / ShotSpot isn't being used often at tournaments for actual scoring (it has been trialled at a few), but my understanding that this will change for the first time at a major at the US (it will be implemented and it's decisions will count when players challenge).

    So the answer to your question is right now - yes, but when they start using it formally in a match - no.
     
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