A RG victory this year would have the greatest impact on whose career (TOP 3)?

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A RG victory (2012) would have the greatest impact for whose career?

  1. Djokovic - Career Grand Slam and 4 in a row

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    43.4%
  2. Nadal - Record 7 RG titles

    12 vote(s)
    11.3%
  3. Federer - Two of each major title

    33 vote(s)
    31.1%
  4. They're all about equal

    10 vote(s)
    9.4%
  5. Let someone else win a major title already...

    5 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. powerangle

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    A RG victory in 2012 would mean the most in whose career?

    Djokovic - A career grand slam, joining a select list, plus four-in-a-row, last achieved by Laver in 1969 (and across three different surfaces to boot).

    Nadal - Record breaking 7 Roland Garros titles.

    Federer - two of each major title, an extremely select list, and only player to do so on three different surfaces.


    For me, I would rate Djokovic's victory as having the most impact on his career. Nadal and Federer already have so many accolades and accomplishments, that while great if they win 2012 RG, it wouldn't boost their careers as much as it would boost Novak's.

    What do you think?
     
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  2. Rock Strongo

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    No. They should all just lose in the first round. Seriously, it's time for a new champion.
     
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  3. Mustard

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    All would be amazing achievements. Djokovic wins it and he becomes the first player since Rod Laver to hold all 4 majors at the same time. Nadal wins it and he overtakes Borg and wins a seventh French Open. Federer wins it and he joins Laver and Emerson as the only players to win all 4 majors at least twice each.
     
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    Djokovic.





    Federer is seen as the greatest to ever lift a racket by the majority of the tennis world one win won't really do anything significant to the tennis world. Nadal, regardless of how many FO titles he wins he still won't be regarded as a better clay courter than Borg due to how weak this era is on clay and given the age Borg retired.
     
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  5. Evan77

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    yeah, I guess Novak holding all 4 slams would be an amazing accomplishment. LIKE REALLY, REALLY BIG ...

    buttpicker winning another RG, oh, it's like who cares?
     
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  6. Homeboy Hotel

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    Djokovic > Federer > Nadal
     
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    Nadal's accomplishment is the only one you listed that has never been done before. To me, that makes it the greatest impact.
     
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  8. forzamilan90

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    three way tie tbh. Fed would basically become even more consensus GOAT than he is now with a 2nd FO (imagine if he beats Nadal too, i mean that would really just about end the debates)

    Djokovic would hold all 4 majors, also 4 consecutive majors too. Not too shabby. Instantly gets catapulted amongst some really serious all time greats.

    Nadal would become unquestionably (sorry Borg fans) the best on clay ever with another FO.

    Really all three guys will up their resume by a considerable margin to something spectacular if they win.
     
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  9. Hood_Man

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    I voted Djokovic because I want to see someone win 4 in a row, and it might also re-energise him for the rest of the season. It would be remarkable if he then went on to win Wimbledon and the US Open... *comes back down to earth*

    Then again, Fed winning it would be wonderful too. I'm not sure how wonderful since he's already had his Ivanisevic moment, and I don't know exactly how I'd feel unless it happens, but it would certainly be a highlight of my year.

    ...Then again, I'd like to see someone completely new win a major too.

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    Djokovic winning would probably be the most historic.
     
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    I would like to add that right now all 3 have won 2 tier 1 events in 2012:
    - Djoko: AO and Miami
    - Fed: IW and Madrid
    - Nadal: M-C and Rome


    It makes for good suspense that the top 3 have been so competitive so far. It's really not a given yet which one will take a decisive lead and step out of the pack in the end.
     
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    Both Nadal and Djoko's attempts have never been done before, so to me they have similar impact. Sure, Laver won the 4 slams in 1 season but only on 2 surfaces. It would be the first time someone wins 4 in a row on hard, grass and clay. That would definitely be a precedent.
     
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  12. sureshs

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    Undoubtedly Djokovic, because it will propel him to the GOAT #2 status.
     
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  13. Mustard

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    The thing is, though, Laver won the biggest titles on all surfaces in 1969. Hardcourt was arguably Laver's best surface and there weren't many tournaments on hardcourt back then. And the grass of the US Open was very different from the grass at Wimbledon.
     
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  14. Apun94

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    Hahahaha, good one. Do you think that i Nadal wins 10 RG(quite possible) Borg would still be considered better????!!!
     
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  15. Mike Sams

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    The problem with Nadal winning RG is that he's not really winning anything else other than clay titles. So who really cares? He's already the king of clay as it is. People are already fully aware that he's only winning on clay and winning nothing else, no matter how many finals he's making. Basically the finals is where the tournament begins for the top 3 guys so Nadal losing in the final is basically the same as losing in the first round. He's still as far away as possible from winning the tournament until he's actually holding up the trophy. :lol:
    Djokovic winning 4 Slams in a row, which Federer and Nadal could not do, is probably nothing short of phenomenal.
    I think when Djokovic gets into week 2, he's going to be increasing his level. Whoever is going to beat him is going to have to play nothing less than their absolute best and that includes Nadal.
    This isn't going to be Rome where Djokovic is having tantrums and smashing racquets because of 1 point. He knows what's at stake and will be mature enough to keep his focus and his mind on the task. It's going to be a very interesting tournament regardless of how poor Nadal's side of the draw is.
     
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  16. Mike Sams

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    It puts Djokovic on the status of Legend.
     
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  17. Mike Sams

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    Nobody cares about what Laver did. It's a whole different sport now. He's too small to have been any kind of threat to Nadal on clay. He'd have no shot.
     
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    Djokovic's achievement would be most impressive. Then Federer's. Then Nadal's.

    Although I wouldn't sweat it. The homogenization of the surfaces at the big 4 takes care, that the achiievement is somewhat diminished in its significance.

    LOL at AO and MC being in the same boat. Or any of the M1000 tournaments for that matter.
     
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  19. joeri888

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    For Federer only the fact that hè is still so good would be valuable, and i think it would be big If he beats rafa to do it. But his career can Hardly be impacted aanymore. Same goes even more for rafa on
    Clay. 6 or 7 FO is just amazing

    So Djokovic it is.
     
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    There are Hardly different surfaces today.
     
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  21. Gizo

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    I don't think Djokovic will be able to catch either Federer or Nadal in the grand slam count (maybe he'll prove me wrong but I don't see it at this point in time).

    Therefore it would be quite cool if he was able to achieve something significant and amazing that neither Federer or Nadal were able to do. Federer was 2 sets away from holding all 4 slams simultaneously in 2006 and 2007 French Opens, while Nadal was 3 matches away at the 2011 Australian Open. Sampras was also 3 matches away at the 1994 French Open.

    Then again the best thing for tennis would probably be to have 4 different grand slam champions this year for the first time since 2003, with a preferably a brand new grand slam champion from outside the big three along the way.
     
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  22. Djoker

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    The greatest impact would be for Djokovic.
    This shouldn't really be even up for debate.
     
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  23. abmk

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    djoker, federer and nadal in that order ...
     
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  24. Cesc Fabregas

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    7 Roland Garros's says otherwise.
     
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    I don't see how 7 French opens will establish Nadal as better clay courter than he is already with 6.
     
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  26. abmk

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    holding all 4 slams at once and having 2 of every slam & winning a slam after 2 and half years have a stronger say .....
     
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  27. Cesc Fabregas

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    The 4 in a row I agree with but Nadal beating Borg's 6 French Open's would be more memorable than Federer winning atleast 2 at every slam.
     
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  28. Sentinel

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    Looking at it another way ...
    Nadal - for if Joker beats him it would shut out Nadal totally. Nadal needs to win this to prove he's still relevant.
     
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    With Federer it's not so much 2 of every slam as it is about his legacy. If he were to go through say Nadal at the French at age 30 it would further cement his place among the all time greats.
     
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  30. abmk

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    not quite ... especially considering federer hasn't won a major in a while ...

    and if he beats both nole and nadal or even just nadal, that'd be huge ...
     
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  31. pvaudio

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    Djokovic easily. Federer has nothing to prove anywhere. Nadal has nothing to prove by winning his favorite tournament again. Neither has won all four in a row, and it would also give Djokovic a career slam in addition to 4 consecutive.
     
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    I cannot make a choice so I voted that they are all about equal..

    If you were to hold a gun to my head and make me make a choice, I think i would say Federer.

    Federer winning Roland Garros at this point in his career would imply that at 30 (?) he is still capable of winning slams on his "worst" suface, taking his slam count to 17, with Djokovic and Nadal at the peak of their careers.

    Taking into account how long Federer as been at the top of the game and the point in his career, him winning RG would probably make him -without a doubt- the GOAT. I think that even Nadal fans wouldn't argue with that anymore with always the same argument.

    Ofcourse.. I fully expect Nadal to win RG 2012..
     
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  33. pvaudio

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    Not really no. Borg never even played an entire career, so there's always that excuse to use as a what if. Nadal is already the greatest clay court player ever, so even if he does win RG, all it does is give him another title and cement him as being able to only defend clay titles. Nothing more. Federer winning at 30 on his worst surface and Djokovic completing the Djoker-slam are more significant.
     
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  34. pvaudio

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    Head-to-head bro, all that matters. Especially so if Fed wins "because" Rafa exited early.
     
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    Nadal, nadal_slam_king and me
     
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    Slam count all that matters..? Strange idea to make one aspect the deciding factor.

    Take everything into account. Imo H2H is not everything that matters, especially when you're facing possibly the GCOAT and the match up couldn't be any worse.
     
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    Hi NSK, I see you like posting in your new account.
     
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    ^ They aren't the same. nGk guy rocks. Don't you get yourself banned, NGK.
     
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    *facepalm* I was imitating the nadal-ites. Head to head is next to meaningless to anyone who actually considers success.
     
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    Oh sorry pvaudio.. I don't know everybody's opinion about this and I didn't get your sarcasm. But in hindsight I could have.. :oops:
     
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    lol, I was just thinking, what the hell, he managed to open another account ... haha, NSK is good
     
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  42. nadal_slam_king

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    Who were the great claycourters Borg faced? Anyone of them as good as Federer/Djokovic?
     
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    The best clay-courters Borg faced were Vilas, Connors, Panatta, Solomon, Gerulaitis, Pecci, Orantes, Ramirez, Dibbs.
     
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    ^^

    add lendl to that list ...
     
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  45. TMF

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    Fed adding one more slam will certainly widen the gap. But don't expect the debates end because there's always Fed's detractors out there.

    Yes, if he wins the FO then there will be a debate as to who was more impressive...Laver in 69 or the present Nole. Some will say it's Laver because it's in a calendar year, but others will argue that Nole won his 4 slams on all 3 surfaces + in a modern time.

    7>6. Even if you are not a rafa fan.

    Really all three guys will up their resume by a considerable margin to something spectacular if they win.[/QUOTE]
    True, but I believe this title will have more influence on 1)Rafa, 2)Nole, 3)Fed.
     
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  46. TMF

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    But the fact is he didn't win a slam on hc. Just because you said he was great on hc doesn't necessary means he would have won the slam on hc. There are players who are the favorite to win when they happen to be a better player but still lost(i.e Connors in 75 WB, Lendl in 89 FO, Fed in 2005 AO, Sampras 96 WB, etc..)
     
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  47. TMF

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    LOL...surprise that kiki didn't respond to your post. I guess he must you on his ignore list.
     
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  48. Mustard

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    Laver never had that opportunity, just as Federer hasn't had the opportunity to win tournaments on indoor wood.
     
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    LOL,but you guys holds Laver's 69 to today's standard but yet you ignore the fact that today's players don't have a chance to play on only 2 surfaces at the slams. So Nole(if he does win the FO) he should hold the standard to past. Let's be fair.
     
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  50. Mustard

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    The point is that Laver won the best titles on all surfaces. The biggest hardcourt tournament in 1969 was the South African Open. Laver won it by beating Okker in the final. The first hardcourt major, unless we are counting the 1939 US Pro and 1956 Tournament of Champions, was the 1978 US Open.
     
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