Academies in Spain

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  1. GRANITECHIEF

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    Johhnyf, If you go to LaManga, it would be great if you could give a report on the facilities, training, competition, etc.

    My family and I are also considering going there. It looks like a nice resort.
     
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  2. Jonnyf

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    GRANITECHIEF i know someone who goes every year i'll try and ask him
     
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  3. GRANITECHIEF

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    Cool, that would be great!
     
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  4. Jonnyf

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    Sorry one probs i just found out that

















    He's coaching in your country sooo soooo sorry
     
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  5. TennisHC

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    Hello Tricky
    It appears that Sanchez-Casal in Barcelona is still producing lot more pro players.

    Andy Murray trains there is well.

    Whats your view.
     
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  6. TennisHC

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    Fina14
    When are you thinking of going to spain, and which academy?
     
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  7. Muzza

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    Has anyone been to La Manga club to train?
    If so, is it a good place to train at or are the others in spain like top tennis better?

    Cheers
     
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  8. dizzychump

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    where have tricky nicky's responses gone?

    Everyone is thanking this guy for his great knowledge and its gone! Where? Why?
     
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  9. forehander

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    Since I started this thread and my son recently returned from a stay at the Sanches-Casal academy, I thought I'd update you and give a review for anyone interested.

    The main complaint about this camp is that it is VERY unorganized. Trainers and students were walking around clueless as to what to do and where to go. Eventually they would figure it out and students would be sent to a court to do some training.

    How was the training? Well, I'd have to say it was mediocre. The instructors, besides being unorganized, showed that they were not really into what they were doing. Did my son learn anything? Yes, but it could have been so much better. He has a much better personal coach here at home. But it was an interesting experience and it gave him exposure to many very high level junior players.

    What was the tennis training like? It was pounding ground strokes for three hours in the morning and playing out some sets with other students in the afternoon. There was no serve work and no volley work. It was all about ground strokes. My son's ground strokes did improve. You can't pound out ground strokes for 4 hours a day 6 days a week in a competitive environment and not improve. The quality of the players there was very high. There were government sponsored top juniors from Australia and many very good players from all over the world. My son is a solid 4.0 player and I'd have to say that most of the players were better than him. Some were very very good. They looked like they were soon ready to turn pro. So, pounding groundstrokes with all of these players that are better than you can definitely improve your game. My son's technique was slightly modified and improved. He learned to extend more through his stroke. Most of the work was done on clay courts. Kuznetzova was there training, but of course she was off training by herself with a personal coach. Don't expect to go there and receive the same professional level of training that other top juniors or pros receive. You'll just be one of the campers on the assembly line. I suppose all of these academies are similar.

    Intermixed with the tennis training is about 3 hours of physical training. The makes for a full day of activity. How was the physical training? I'd have to say it was "Mickey Mouse" training. By that I mean that it was not very professional and was obviously meant to just keep the kids busy so that they wouldn't goof off. Believe me, my son has received years of professional physical training from former NBA trainers. He knows what true quality physical training is. This was not it. It was hard work, but it was not quality work. There is a difference. Most players could not do it. Many faked injury to get out of doing it. My son who has a fierce work ethic, was probably the only player who could complete the work.

    The academy itself is a little dumpy. It is full of flies because it is next to a farm. The facilities are not as nice as they appear in the pictures.

    Would he do it again? No. It was an interesting experience that he will always remember, but not something he would be interested in repeating.
     
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  10. TennisHC

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    Hello
    I too was wondering where tricky nicky's threads have disappeard.

    My Child went to Sanchez last year for 3 weeks. Well, couldnt really see much improvement, then again it was in summer and lot of rich kids from all over the world are there, some are fairly low standard.

    This summer for 2 weeks went to San Remo Italy, Bob Brett academy, pretty good, expensive, specially accomodation and food. Italians know how to charge. This academy is closed in August.

    Last week my child went to J C Ferrero Academy (Equelite) in Spain, near Alicante. We are looking to decide in september, where to go for a full year. My child was not lucky enough to start at the age of 5 or 6 and is late bloomer.

    We are going to give good one/two years some where at good academy, almost giving up education (doing some correspondence course), so obviously like any parent I want to send my child to the best academy. But its difficult choice, which one???

    Like you say, if your child is not pro, then you could be at some court no. 17 hitting some drills.

    Some body told me that in spain even if you pay for your academy fees, which by no means is cheap, if you want your child to get good training you have to pay for individual lessons. I have no idea how true is that.

    My question is:- Has any one been to these academies for longer period, I would love to hear from some one.

    There are lot of WTA top 200 players coming from Czech republic, where do they train.

    Are there any other good academies in spain other than these big names.
     
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  11. forehander

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    TennisHC, I'm not sure why you would have to virtually give up school. I think many of the academies, including Sanchez-Casal have an in house school for the kids. Although I could be mistaken.

    I'm a big believer in private lessons. My son's game has improved dramatically with private lessons. But keep in mind, not all coaches are the same. I'm not sure if only group lessons in an academy would get you what you want.
     
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  12. Yondan

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    I'm not TennisHC, but I am a junior player that was looking into a long stay at an academy. I went up to Weil Tennis Academy in Ojai, California and spent a little while there and got to talk to some of the kids. The majority of the kids say that unless you are home schooled it is just too hard to keep school and tennis going at the same time and one student was leaving because he could not keep both up. I just graduated from high school and wish to play D I or D II college tennis but I am a year younger than my current school grade. I am taking about 3 to 4 months off beginning in september to train in Spain after that I will come back to the states and train with my coach and play USTA tournaments until school starts back up next September. I have been mainly looking at the Bruguera Tennis Academy because it looks very nice and I like Bruguera as a player.
     
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  13. telefone

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    probable u were here long time ago! because im here now, and im loving it!!! and its great if u r here for tennis!
     
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  14. aquiarius

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    I was at Sanchez Casal Tennis Academy last summer 2005. It was a great experience for me and my friends. We really enjoy the training every day and also all the activities on weekend. We could participate in tournaments close to Barcelona. The level in Spain is really good, you can train with different players from over the world and also with Spanish players, you can see that too at the tournaments.
    At Sanchez Casal Academy we had 4 hours per day of tennis training and 1 hour of physical training ever day, also we did Spanish lessons.
    The training was different that was I had so far, it has hard at the begining but you get used to.
    For sure I will go again this summer 2006
     
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  15. telefone

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    come on people!!!
    s-c is the plave where u can go!!!

    its nice,,, u can have fun, u practice ur tennis, ur fisical condition,,, and they have players from all ages,,, so,,, i woulg do there.
     
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  16. aquiarius

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    forehand, at sanchez casal they have an american high school at the same facilities and also some players study on line
     
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  17. telefone

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    hey mate!!!!

    what r u trying to say, that ur son, who is 14 can realize that the fisical practice was not proffesional,,, was not a good quality,,, maybe u also know some more things,, how they have to work with the guys of 15 years old,,, u might know, ig they put toooo much ur son will never grow up and stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ù can not say that!!!!!!

    well,,, anyway, it is ur decision to send ur son there or no!!!!!!!!

    i hopo ur son will do great in his future carrer!!!!!!!!
     
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  18. charlie8

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    my sons aged 13 + 11 went to sanchez-casal last summer for 2wks and loved it. infact they're going again this summer for 3wks. it's very spanish style training, baseline drills etc and they did learn alot. but how much can anyone really improve in such a short period of time? they don't do stroke correction coz there's not enough time, but just drill on current strokes kid has. to see real improvement that lasts, you gotta go for 3mths at least at any academy. for a summer hols, 3wks-1mth is good enough for intermediate/tournament junior players, but when you get back home you gotta keep up the training everyday so the kids don't forget what they've learnt.
    i have nothing against sanchez-casal for juniors but for adults it's not worth the bother at all.
    anyone know about the itf academy in valencia?
     
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  19. forehander

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    Well, my son was 19 at the time and yes, he does know what "real" physical training is like. As I said before, he has worked with an NBA trainer since he was 13. I'll repeat it - the physical training at Sanchez-Casal is a joke. It was hard, but not quality. There is a difference. It was more like - ok do 50 pushups... oh, you're finished uhhh, well do 50 more... My son, who has a tremendous work ethic was the ONLY player that could complete it. What do you call that? I call it busy work. Everyone else just faked injury or cheated on the movements. Does that help them grow up? I'm not trying to put the academy down. He though it was a worthwhile experience. It's just not what it is hyped to be. The best part of it is being able to hit ground strokes every day (cause that's all the tennis training you'll do) with some very good players. You can't help but improve your groundstrokes doing that.

    And thank you telefone, my son is doing quite well in his career.
     
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  20. austro

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    I had booked to go SC in early April but after reading the thread here again I am now thinking of going to Bruguera. Already their website promises much more. I would really like to see some video analysis of my strokes and movement for once. When I asked SC on th ephone about it, they said "no, you just play". That sounded pretty symptomatic of their attitude and gels with what has been said here. There does not seem to be a lot of attention paid to adults (which I am). I looked at Equelite (TopTeam) but Barcelona as a location is much more attractive to me. I am only planning to do one week at this point.

    I don't know about these new posters raving about SC but I am sceptical. Almost sounds like the academy itself posting here to lift their reputation. It may be good for kids/juniors but I don't think it is for what I am looking for (I am just an ambitious recretional player).

    I wanted to check out Andres Gimeno too but their website has been down for weeks.
     
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  21. charlie8

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    SC is good for a summer tennis camp for juniors who want to hit for hours and be consistent on ground strokes. it's really fun for kids (10 - 14yrs), I'd recommend it. but for adults ... forget it!!! i'm an intermediate/advance player and coach my kids. i decided to join the adult programme at SC so i could learn some different drills, techniques etc so I could apply them to when I coach my kids and also brush up on my strokes ... as well as get a good workout. I didn't get any of that!! Wrong decision and cost me alot of money!!! my coach just wasn't interested, was lazy, didn't move on court, hardly gave instructions and wasn't friendly. he told me I couldn't hit top spin, reduce my power, not to move around my backhand etc etc ... i came out of SC playing the worse tennis in 32 yrs!!! i wouldn't recommend SC for adults at all.
     
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    Does anyone have any news on the Andres Gimeno academy? Their website has been down for a while and the phone number I could find doesn't work either.

    So SC is bad, Bruguera only for juniors, Equelite in the south... what's left?
     
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  24. Sanchez-Casal is great, for elite players as well as serious, non-elite players.
     
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    I really want to know whether its worth it to train in Spain in June. I will be turning 17 and I am a female. I want to train in Spain and work on my forehand and fitness. Which academy will be best for me? SC or Bruguera?
    Please let me know asap because I need to plan what to do.
     
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  26. I really want to know whether its worth it to train in Spain in June. I will be turning 17 and I am a female. I want to train in Spain and work on my forehand and fitness. Which academy will be best for me? SC or Bruguera?
    Please let me know asap because I need to plan what to do.
     
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  27. Hi I really want to know whether its worth it to train in Spain in June. I will be turning 17 and I am a female. I want to train in Spain and work on my forehand and fitness. Which academy will be best for me? SC or Bruguera? is SC or Bruguera better?
    Please let me know asap because I need to plan what to do.
     
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  28. forehander

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    I can't help you with that decision. I've never been to Bruguera. I can only give my opinion of Sanchez-Casal.
     
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    HI Everybody

    Any good tennis academy if you know in madrid. Please let me know OR how could I find one--- Really good one!
     
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  30. Alexio92

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    What would be the best academy in spain for 2 weeks to a month for a 15 year old 3.5/4.0(From what I gather)??
     
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    Alexio92 a good place to go is elitennis near barcelona, i have been there many times (going again at easter) they work with small groups of players and have great coaching staff
     
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    I need to bring this thread back to life .Im between going to equlite and bragurada and i might be accepted to catalnya tennis federation (very small chance) Which of these would be best for someone who is 22 and is an awesome college player?
     
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  33. You Can't Be Serious

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    what academy is located in valencia, spain....i believe that is where maria kirilenko and other pros trains.

    sanchez/casal is located in barcelona ?

    which is better and why
    thanks
     
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  34. worldtennis

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    Not sure Bruguera will still be around after June. Spanish pros told me they've been having financial problems. The director Xavier is nice and it made it feel like a family, but prices are too high and there are other academies in Barcelona just as good (if not better) for much less. Elite is also good, but again, too much marketing for what they really offer.

    Sanchez Casal is a marketing machine. I didn't care about it's coordinates being about an airport but I did care about the customer service. The gentleman on here did a surprise visit rightly so, but I had a set meeting and I still got terrible service. NO ONE came out and after 45 minutes I left. No problem, never again and but happy to tell people I had the same terrible service. More annoyed I took the time to go all the way there from Barcelona center.

    If you want serious quality - head to Global Tennis Team on Mallorca. I went through Costa del Tennis (cheaper and they find you accommodation) cause I wanted a place in Palma for a month but if they have room I think you can board at the academy. No frills boarding but damn good food. Place is righteous serious & also like a family. They also have a camp in Barcelona with a competition school that's getting good reviews. The best players in Catalunia train there and at Global they spoke highly about this academy as well. Not the one in Gran Canaria though - that's for recreational. Good luck and have fun.
     
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  35. markiev37

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    I'm going to PRO-AB tennis academy in barcelona for a week in april....prices are reasonable. checkout their website. been very professional with me.
     
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    Have been recommended 4slam in barcelona by some people who live there. Hope to check it out this summer for my son
     
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