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  1. mikej

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    well done by two of my picks, but another loss i'm blaming on hemmeler

    he's winning the underperformer of the year award so far, hopefully he can beat nc central tonight!
     
  2. duke1414

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    Alvarez just won the Copa Gatorade

    His ITF ranking should go up from already impressive 63

    5-0 against blue chip recruits

    He would be a Top 3 recruit in this class if ranked by tennisrecruiting.net
     
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    Why does Notre dame suck so bad and has had recruiting big time player trouble for years. why can't they get the best talent ? are they not a prestigious program ? or do they only recruit irish players ?
     
  4. Kirijax

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    Just saw Miami men's team lost to UCF for the first time ever. They took the doubles point but lost 4-3. Maybe need to reevaluate this team.
     
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    Kentucky won 4-3.
     
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    I saw this guy playing Saturday in 40 and over, Men's USTA 3.5 division. what is he doing on Miami squad ?
     
  7. ClarkC

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    For the intellectually challenged: Wake and ETSU played an extended format, with seven singles. ETSU won the #7 singles in straight sets. That match counts, by agreement of the coaches. Wake story lists the result as 5-3., not 5-2.

    The score was 4-3 Wake with Adam Lee's match being the last one on. It went to a tiebreaker at 5-5 in the third set under the new rules. Lee won; a loss would have made the dual match score 4-4. That is what intelligent people refer to as barely beating ETSU. Compare to what UVa would do against ETSU and you can see the chances of Wake upsetting UVa.
     
  8. Kirijax

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    Flores will be 22 in February. He just looks like the guy you saw playing in the 40 and over.
     
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    funniest post I have seen on here all year... LMAO... he can beat that guy you saw in 16 minutes tops..
     
  10. mikej

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    haha owned

    i usually just assume clark is right when he's arguing on this board nowadays, never too long until he backs it up with the facts

    (not that i have any room to give wake crap about a close win considering my team is in the dumpster this year - i just appreciate a good board fact-checker to keep it real)
     
  11. mikej

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    yes, the ND board made this a policy in 2011 - nowadays only allowed to recruit players named rudy or lucky, players with an irish mother, or players with an irish setter at home

    it has become rather limiting to their success
     
  12. mikej

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    nice to see there's a sunrise a year away
     
  13. Clemson_tennis

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    It was a real coup for Stanford to get Morrissey over the Irish
     
  14. Kirijax

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    LOL! Post of the Year so far.
     
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    I know mikej's post was a joke but Notre Dame actually does seem to focus their recruiting very narrowly. They never have any internationals. One more good player at the top could get them over the hump into the top 16.
     
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    Notre Dame had a commit from a top international a year ago, from Ireland. But the admissions office found out that his mother was Scottish, so they had to turn him down.
     
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    They don't play 7 singles in acc matches so if you counted the top 6 it was 4-0. When I said duke would beat uky I assumed red would play. UV could lose to Kentucky if frank didn't play no doubt. UV is down, Jenkins was 2nd best player in NCAA and Uriguen never lost in the acc and was great at doubs. Domijan hates tennis and has been out since may, mc is not clutch, Shane is always hurt, Thai has been, so yes wake has a chance to beat uv this year, so does unc and duke if healthy.
     
  18. Kirijax

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    I think Wake Forest is definitely improved this year. But for them to beat Virginia, a whole lotta things would have to go right. But it's possible.
     
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    As a UVA fan, I just do not see how WF can possibly beat UVA this year. Now if Mitchell Frank and Alex Domijan are both injured and unable to play then it might be 4-3 WF. Both of these guys when healthy are top 10 and maybe top 5 NCAA players and their records at the All American prove it. Both have won it twice.

    The rest of the UVA lineup is entirely top 100 guys talent wise. The rankings basically only have the #1 to #3 guys included, because lower guys never play "anybody". Domijan is unranked, because he did not play in the fall due to an injury, but he is supposedly ready to go now.

    UCLA may be a bit better, but if so not by much. The dual match on March 6 and likely a match up at the NTI finals in February will determine who is favored to win the NCAA's. I expect both teams to make the NCAA finals and play each other for the third time and for all the marbles.
     
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    They play whatever the coaches agree to play. If two coaches agree to an extended format, then the scores count. UVa has played four doubles and nine singles against other teams, and the official score on the ITA site reflected all matches.
     
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    Does anybody know where Vikram Hundal is playing now? He is no longer on the Georgia Tech roster.
     
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    Not in acc matches Clark, you are wrong, in conference matches you have to play conference rules....domijan is no longer a top 5 player, he hasn't played an official match since may and has gotten worse since freshman year (just purely based of results)
     
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    according to facebook he's still at GT
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seN7AKSwMFU
     
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    Duke dominated North Carolina Central, definitely establishing themselves as the best team in Durham. :)

    Meanwhile, Esben Hess-Olesen has not played yet for UNC, which could even out the absence of Redlicki when the two teams meet at the indoor kick-off this weekend.
     
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    Virginia had better bring their A game when the mighty Hoosiers visit this weekend.....oh maybe not.
     
  27. Clemson_tennis

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    Boston College lost to Georgetown
     
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    ACC teams ranked based on the success in the ITA kickoff.

    1. Notre Dame - Surprisingly qualified for Houston following two very close wins. Huge win to knock off Kentucky in Lexington. All of this without the #2 Monaghan as well. Hugely successful weekend

    2. Duke - Lots of people expected UNC to go into Durham and get the win, but Duke denied them that chance. After a somewhat shaky match vs Oregon, Duke responded very well and took out their hated rivals.

    3. Virginia - Did what was expected

    4. Wake Forest - Had a nice win over LSU and then were very close to advancing to the round of 16 but Laaribi could not finish the deal. Overall though a pretty good weekend.

    5. Virginia Tech - Had a tough match against a very good Oklahoma team, never was expected to win that one. But a huge upset win over Tulsa for the Hokies. That win will do wonders for their ranking all season.

    6. Clemson - Had a more lopsided loss to Illinois than what they would have liked but responded nicely with a good win over Ole Miss on their home courts. Even if Ole Miss is over ranked, still a very quality win that will help the ranking.

    7. NC State - Disappointing loss to VCU that did not allow them to test their metal against Tennessee. Rebounded with a routine win over Michigan State

    8. Florida State - Disappointing loss to TCU which cost them a chance to test their rival for a spot in Houston. They had a good chance to beat Florida but never got the chance because TCU was too much for them. Beat UNCW in the consolations which isn't the best win in the world.

    9. North Carolina - Big chance to beat a stumbling Duke team to get to Houston and potential bring EHO back for the final 16 and see how they stack up vs the best teams in the nation but blew it. The most disappointing of the weekend from the ACC.


    GT,Miami and BC didn't participate.
     
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    NC State visits Indiana tomorrow to play on our fastish indoor courts. Could be a tight one.
     
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    Georgia Tech knocks off South Carolina. Big big win for the Jackets. It's weird but they look to be better without Spir. Rakitt dominated Mihov which was impressive, he was their most positive piece last year and he has improved a lot this year. And this win was even with what is basically a default point to the opponent at #6.
     
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    Also NC State gets a good win at Indiana. They needed that after a disappointing weekend last week. Simon Norenius is a key player for the Pack. he is a solid #6 and it would help them greatly if he stays healthy this season. Nick Horton though has not adjusted to college ball as quickly as they would have liked.
     
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    Duke knocks off Illinois, 5-2

    Duke beat Illinois 5-2 tonight (or should I say last night). Duke took the doubles point after with all 3 matches going to tiebreak.

    Notes:
    Redlicki looked awesome in the first set, dominating #4 Hiltzik 6-0. But then Hiltzik started playing better and took the second set 6-2. In the third set, it came down to a tiebreaker and Hiltzik barely took it.

    Tahir lost the first set and won the next two. Love his aggressive style of play. Makes him very fun to watch.

    Levine simply finds a way to win. Every time I saw him play a crucial point, he won it.

    Pura played his first dual match. He played great, particularly in the last 2 sets. Aggressive player with a one handed backhand which was fun to see. Played like he had shot of adrenaline.
     
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    Are you freshman or did you see their matches last year? If you did, how is Tahir playing relatively to last year? Has he regained his form after an injury plagued summer and fall?
     
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    I live in Durham, but I don't go to Duke. I only started watching them this year, so I don't know how Tahir is doing relative to previous years. But he's picked it up since Redlicki came back, it's helped him that he's not playing 1 singles.
     
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    Virginia Tech in a very close one with Penn State
     
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    I'm not sure if that says more about VT or Penn St. I think Penn St is a little better this year. Stakhovsky couldn't win anything last year at Oklahoma and takes out Contini in straights at 1.
     
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    Yeah that was a pretty shocking result. This could say more about Penn State because Vt did just beat Tulsa. And it looks like VT is pulling out all the close ones right now.
     
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    VT/PSU coming down to the 3rd set on court 5. Freshman on court for the Hokies.
     
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    Hokies go down to PSU
     
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    NC State beat Michigan 4-3 - Powell, Mudge, Weber, and Norenius won at 1, 3, 5, and 6.
     
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    ACC looking pretty good so far. NC State takes down Michigan, Notre Dame beats Kentucky again today to add to the already impressive ACC weekend

    Virginia Tech losing to Penn State was the only downside of the weekend.
     
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    UVA update, although we did not play a dual match we had three guys

    play in the Dallas Challenger qualifier. You have to win 3 rounds to make the main draw.

    Mitchell Frank our #1 or #2 on occasion (Alex Domijan will play some #1, but mostly #2 IMO) won his first round but lost to former UM player Jason Jung in the 2nd round 4 and 1.

    Our likely #5 or 6 Justin Shane won his first round match and then beat last year's UCLA #1 Dennis Novikov in a very close three setter in the second round. If Justin wins one more match he will be in the main draw.

    Our top freshman recruit Thai-Son Kwiatkowski won his first round match then lost a 3 hour three setter to former UCLA #1/2/3 Mick Meister 6-7 (5), 7-5, 6-7(4). No one is quite certain where Thai will play in our lineup, but IMO likely #5 or 6.

    The probable lineup at the NTI at crunch time will probably be Frank, Domijan, Ryan Shane, Mac Styslinger Justin Shane, and Kwiatkowski.
    I think UCLA is still missing their 1 or 2 player, so it sure looks like anther UVA victory at the NTI and that would be be 6 out of the last 7.

    Some here may not know that Frank and Domijan have each won two of the last four AA's in Tulsa. IMO there are very few college players who can beat these two guys. There are 4 or 5 others that are pretty close to these two, but now that Blaz Rola is gone I think they are the best two college players this year.

    Do any of the many knowledgeable tennis people here think any team can beat a healthy UVA at the NTI with that lineup? I will admit that our doubles lineups are uncertain, so the doubles point could be lost against a top team. However, I think we will win at least 4 and more likely 5 singles matches against every team we play at the NTI. If we win the doubles point, I just do not think anyone can beat us.
     
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    I don't think the lineups can change for NTI, can they? Don't the coaches have to stick to the submitted lineups that were used in the kick-off weekend? If so, then Justin Shane is #4 right now for UVa, and Styslinger cannot play ahead of him. A coach can rest a player in a match, of course, but not swap his position and then play him.
     
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    You are usually right about such things, but maybe you can submit a different lineup at the actual NTI in Houston. I do not know. It probably does not make any difference anyway if one plays 4 and one plays 5.

    Do you see anyone beating us at the NTI?
     
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    The lineups can change between the Kickoff Weekend and NTIs. Here is what Virginia had last year for the KO Weekend and NTI.


    Univ. of Virginia - 2013 KickOff Weekend
    #1 Alex Domijan (F: 13-1; O: 13-1)
    #2 Jarmere Jenkins (F: 15-2; O: 15-2)
    #3 Ryan Shane (F: 10-2; O: 10-2)
    #4 Mac Styslinger (F: 10-3; O: 10-3)
    #5 Mitchell Frank (F: 0-0; O: 0-0)
    #6 Justin Shane (F: 5-3; O: 5-3)
    #7 Julen Uriguen (F: 1-4; O: 1-4)
    #8 Harrison Richmond (F: 12-5; O: 12-5)

    Univ. of Virginia - 2013 NTI Roster
    #1 Jarmere Jenkins (F: 15-2; O: 17-2)
    #2 Alex Domijan (F: 13-1; O: 15-1)
    #3 Mitchell Frank (F: 0-0; O: 2-0)
    #4 Mac Styslinger (F: 10-4; O: 12-4)
    #5 Ryan Shane (F: 10-2; O: 11-2)
    #6 Harrison Richmond (F: 12-5; O: 14-5)
    #7 Justin Shane (F: 5-3; O: 6-3)
    #8 Julen Uriguen (F: 2-4; O: 3-5)
     
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    Nothing wrong with a little shuffling...

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    "Do you see anyone beating us at the NTI?"

    I thought USC looked very good this weekend and I don't think UVA is as good as last year. They still should be favorites, but it's by no means a lock.
     
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    I agree, UVA is the favorite but both UCLA and USC will have a shot and if they get the doubles point winning 3 singles matches isn't out of the question. Lot will depend on the lineups.
     
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    In that case, it will be very interesting to see the final lineups for every team, not just UVa. I think there will be some significant shuffling.

    Meanwhile, the women's NTI starts in five days, so lineups and draws should not be too far away.
     
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    I think with the No-Ad scoring UVA could be upset maybe in the QF and on, but if straight up scoring, then UVA would take with no issues. The no-ad scoring brings in some added luck into the equation
     

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