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  1. Clemson_tennis

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    Bogaerts just smashed the hell out of his racquet
     
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    Weigel not in the lineup for NC State - Va Tech took the dubs point.
     
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    nc state good in singles

    wake never had a chance at uva
     
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    Bjerrehus and Contini both up a break in the 3rd with Tech down 2-3. The top two are trying to get a big win for the Hokies.
     
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    Bjerrehus goes from 3-0 to 4-5 against Mudge at #2. NCSU appears ready to win.
     
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    Miami and Boston College supposedly going on right now but there is nothing out there. No scoreboard, live stats, tweets, nothing. If there is, it's impossible to find.
     
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    Miami Twitter feed says match is being played, no LiveStats. That's all for now. Maybe they will get an update later.

    Boston College has never had tennis LiveStats.
     
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    They advertised the match on facebook and twitter but no one posts updates. lol

    And Boston College hasn't tweeted since March 16.
     
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    Well I can't blame them. What are they really gonna tweet about?
     
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    Haha, hard to argue with that. But following the Canes the last couple of years has taught me to follow your team no matter what. And isn't that their job? At least post updates and results!

    I realize I'm just shouting at the wall here. But the Canes put up a nice ad for the match and then....nothing...... Gotta love college tennis. These are the days that make me want to close up shop.
     
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    NC 'State won ! Big win for them, but maybe heartbreaking for Vtech....in case of ncaas
     
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    Good for him.
    Tennis has been good to him, but he has always been a kid with other important reachable goals beyond tennis.
    he is a bright young man and will now serve his country, i would guess his parents are extremely proud of him.
    as i have stated many times, tennis is a bridge for 99.9% of players, it is what you do with the rewards from it (college) that shape who and what you do in life.
    having great people around you can make a big impact, as i am sure is the case at a great institution such as UVA (not just talking about coaching, winning etc.).
     
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    ACC standings:

    1. Virginia (10-0)
    2. North Carolina (9-1)
    3. Duke (8-1)
    4. Notre Dame (6-4)
    5. Clemson (5-5)
    6. Virginia Tech (5-5)
    7. NC State (4-6)
    8. Florida State (4-6)
    9. Miami (4-6)
    10. Wake Forest (3-6)
    11. Georgia Tech (1-9)
    12. Boston College (0-10)

    matches left:

    Duke at Wake
    Clemson at GT
    FSU at Miami
    Virginia at VT

    Notre Dame at BC
    UNC at Duke
    NC State at Wake
     
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    Hmm, interesting. Miami actually has a chance to finish 6th? But not really worried about that. Just gotta beat FSU. That is all. Duke vs. UNC will be very interesting.
     
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    Miami on 6 would be a great joke in my eyes... :)
    but really looks like it could happen?
     
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    You're bordering on being anointed into the troll club.
     
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    not really
    but look at the teams ahead...they are little bit better as miami or?
     
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    1. Virginia, destroyed Wake Forest and NC State, J.Shanes loss to Dempster is a big question mark, UVA is fighting for a top4 ranking

    2. Duke - shut out Clemson and Gtech, top 16 is their aim, will be to reach if they beat unc on sunday, a road trip to WF also lays ahead, interesting

    3. North Carolina - big win over Clemson, easy one , fight for a top10 place, @ Duke on Sunday is huge

    4. Notre Dame , they are back in shape after wins over Miami and FSU, they are safe in Top16, but also lost 4 times in acc

    5. Clemson- . safe in ncaas, but were chanceless last week @ Duke & UNC, should beat GTech on sunday and secure 5th place in ACC

    6. Florida State -they are fading right now,, the loss vs ND looked really weak, interesting florida match vs miami now, should be safe in ncaas

    7. Wake Forest - they are just the no 7 here, after a loss even vs Vtech, but safely in ncaas

    8. Virginia Tech - made up a great week which but them back into Top40, this is lifesaving for ncaas ! beat VCU and WF, but lost to NC State. They are the classy middle of the pack acc -team...!!!! good days and bad days in the very competitive acc. (they will move up to 5th place in ACC standings if they beat UVA this weekend..:)

    9. NC State - made great win for their ncaas over Vtech, play WF this weekend

    10. Miami ,will have real problems to make it, but hey the 10th best acc team not to make it is not that surprise, but one win can change a lot..beat FSU and the chance is again there (if they win it could even get a rematch vs FSU or Wake Forest in ACCs => win both matches and they should be in)

    11. Georgia Tech - team is fading now...0-7 sweeps in last weeks 3 times in a row..too much..only 5 players left...

    12. Boston College - nothing to write anymore....it is not worth the research...also i like their players to play every match also they know they ll lose it....
     
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    Duke/Wake dubs point comes down to #3 dubs. On serve at the moment.
     
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    LiveStats have been frozen for a while. Is there rain in Winston-Salem?

    EDIT: Never mind. Suddenly, the scores update by 7-8 games on some courts and no games on other courts.
     
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    Looks like Duke will squeak out a 4-3 win if Semenzato loses the final match.
     
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    yeah good 4-0 win by duke at wake, no sets closer than 6-4 in those first three singles matches off the court, routine

    nice of them to let wake have a couple moments of happiness after the match was decided
     
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    Well, Tahir was easily handled by Bogaerts. Thought he would show up better than that. In fact, I thought he would win. Hemmeler and Semenzato always seem to go into three setters (as does Levine) and that's the problem right there against the top ten teams: just not good enough. I think they're ranked exactly where they should be.
     
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    UVA squeak out the doubles point against VT with an 8-7 win at #2. Still can't quite get my head around UVA's doubles line up...
     
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    Styslinger out of the singles line up again as well. Anyone have any idea why he's not playing?
     
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    Yeah, seems like JC Aragone has found his way into the UVA lineups more of late...andwhen he or one of the other freshman play, they seem to shuffle Styslinger out.

    And I, too, am a little surprised by their doubles lineup.
     
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    I am a big UVA fan and do not know why, except that he did play in a USTA Pro Circuit event in Sarasota on Monday and Tuesday. He got a WC into both singles and doubles and played with Jarmere Jenkins in doubles. He lost in singles and won one round in doubles. There are NCAA rules about how many events you can play, but I do not know the specifics. Maybe this was the reason.

    He has not been playing as well as I thought he would this year, as I expected him to be our clear #3 player and possibly challenge for #2, but I may have expected too much. He did beat the NCS guy at #4 easily a week ago yesterday, so he is playing well now.

    I think the only question is who will be our 6 singles guys at the NCAA's, because as deep as UVA is, these dual matches vs the ACC lower half teams are sure wins and Boland does like for a lot of guys to play either in singles or doubles.

    My guess is that our NCAA singles lineup in order will be Domijan, Frank Ryan Shane, Styslinger, Kwiatkowski and Justin Shane. Frank is ranked #2 and Domijan was #17, so maybe we will have a protest over 'stacking', but Domijan has really been playing well lately and I think he is our best player right now.

    We have not been dominating in doubles based on scores, but have won nearly all doubles points. We have tried a lot of doubles lineups. Luca Corintelli (very strong doubles player) and Styslinger have been playing #1 lately, with Domijan and Harrison Richmond at #2, and Frank and Kwiatkowski at #3. It is rare when top 6 singles player do not also play doubles unless they are an extreme baseliner, but it looks like the Shane brothers may not play doubles at the NCAA's.
     
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    Thanks for the input. I've just been surprised by the number of times he has been left out this season, including in important matches (during the indoors for examples).

    Depending on what they plan to do in singles UVA might have to mix things up in doubles for NCAA's to keep within the 8 man squad rule. Ohio State left Metka out last year because of it despite the fact that he was undefeated at #3 doubs with Rola all season.
     
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    Maybe Coach Boland figured that Styslinger got some court time at the Challenger and did not need it as much as others today. Who knows?
     
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    Yea my question was a more general one than in relation to just this match though. Just wondering if there is any reason why he has been out of the lineup (including for important matches) as much as he has been this year.

    Maybe he's just been out of form, I don't know....
     
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    Here is a link to UVA's dual matches by player.

    http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-tennis/stats/2013-2014/teamcume.html

    Mac is 9-1 and has played about the 6th most dual matches this year. As you can see Boland really spreads the playing time around. I do not think his absence is of any particular significance. He did play and win against UCLA and Baylor, but he did not play singles against OSU, Duke, and UNC, which have been the only expected close matches all year. He did play doubles against UNC and OSU and there was no doubles vs Duke.
     
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    I'm certainly not questioning Mac's record. Just seems strange that a guy who was expected to be the team's #3 player has only played 10 out 19 dual matches and has missed 3 of their biggest matches of the year. By contrast Domijan has played all 19. Frank has played fewer but he was injured for a portion of the season.

    Also, I'm not trying to advance any argument, I'm just aware that there are guys on here who know a lot more about UVA tennis than me and I was wondering if anyone had any more idea as to why a guy who in theory 'should' be UVA's #3 has only played just over 50% of dual matches this season.
     
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    Ryan Shane's development this year, starting in the fall, means that Mac was not really expected to be #3 in the spring. Thai Kwiatkowski is a year younger, and missed the fall, so he started behind Mac, but he was a higher recruit (by a little) than Mac, so he caught up when he got into match form early in the outdoor season. That leaves a logjam of players competing for positions 5 and below. The coach seems to be rotating Styslinger, Justin Shane, and J.C. Aragone through those two positions, partly based on who is healthy and partly based on who needs the court time at the moment. Jordan Daigle had a very good fall but is probably a little bit behind that group of three at the moment. Luca Corinteli is better in doubles than singles at the moment, but then he gets to play #6 against some of the lesser opponents, which means someone else needs to sit.

    After today, Justin Shane has played 15 dual matches, Mac has played 10 dual matches, Daigle 10, and Corinteli and Aragone 7 each. That is 49 appearances spread across 20 dual matches, even though these five players compete for two spots (although it took a couple of matches in the indoor season before Thai played at all, which opened up another spot). I know Styslinger missed the Clemson/Georgia Tech weekend due to illness, but I know no other details. I have no info on injuries for him. Aragone was injured in January and did not get to play until after the indoors. Justin Shane has had a few nagging problems, but no major injuries for anyone on this list.
     
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    Thanks for the detailed post Clark. In your view and assuming all are healthy, what would you consider UVA's top 6 to be? And would such a top 6 work considering the doubles lineup that the team are currently playing?
     
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    1. Domijan
    2. Frank
    3. Ryan Shane
    4. Kwiatkowski
    5. Styslinger
    6. Justin Shane

    Doubles is a mystery.
     
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    yeah they're not a top team this year - two top guys out and just lost the best player in program history last year = rebuilding year

    but 4-0 walk in the park vs wake, all routine straight setters, easy as it gets

    i'll take your word for what happened after duke won since i stopped paying attention, totally possible tahir could have lost that ucla-wouldnt-still-be-playing-right-now-but-lets-keep-hitting-for-fun match
     
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    Wake moves Ho up to 2 in a fairly odd move.
     
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    What would consider a closer match? Clemson or Wake? Duke was up 4-0 and then wake won the mop-up courts but did make it 4-3. Clemson was down 3-0 and had a legit shot to steal it 4-3 at one point but eventually lost 7-0.
     
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    Pedro Dumont decided to play today. Cruising
     
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    clemson match closer

    having to win a 3rd set to win is closer than not having to

    both are shutouts come tourney time, one is just a harder earned shutout
     
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    Good win for NC State at Wake. Strange match because Wake won at their two weakest positions yet still didn't get the victory. Horton is rounding into form which is big for NC State heading into tournament time. And for Wake, now is not the time for Lee and Kan to be hitting rough patches but its exactly what they are doing.
     
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    Wake has really fallen down. Norenius is very strong for nc state
     
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    UNC gets a big doubles point over Duke
     
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    yep, gonna take a big effort to get this win now

    but considering this is the chance for the high point of this season (because, being realistic, this team isn't winning an ACC title or making a deep run in NCAAs), hopefully they leave everything they have left this season out there

    i like saba's chances (great opponent, but final big match vs UNC in home stadium, he's going to die before he gives an inch in that match)

    i like pura's chances the way he has been playing lately

    we'll see...
     
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    Big rally by Tahir and Levine. Tahir from 2-4 down to taking the set 6-4 and Levine from 1-4 down to lead 5-4
     
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    if levine can win that set (or hemmeler win his second), that would be big

    keep some momentum, keep that second unc point off the board for a while, and make sure unc has to battle for hours into multiple third sets in front of what i'm sure is a solid duke crowd given the nice weather in durham right now
     
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    Semenzato should beat Steiro and Pura should win at 6. Tahir and Saba will need to keep the two UNC aces from rallying.
     
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    Things looking good for Duke. UNC will need a Schnur rally on 1.
     

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