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  1. Deacon Drive

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    Great info. Would obviously love to see Rubin end up at Wake. As others stated, Wake has a great coach, academics, competition, and now top-notch facilities with an ATP 250 event coming to campus annually.

    Would Rubin clearly be better than Romain Bogaerts, who ended the year ranked 30?

    Wake has also signed a guy named Skander Mansouri, from Tunisia. Sounds like a good international player, but I don't know enough about international junior tennis to judge how he projects in the college game. Any thoughts?
     
  2. Clemson_tennis

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    I thought Mansouri had already committed to Georgia Tech. Why eould he switch? Or how? I thought for sure he had signed on with GT.
     
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  5. Deacon Drive

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    I guess he must have verbally committed to GT and then changed his mind, committed to Wake, and signed the LOI to Wake.
     
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    The update article after yesterday's finals basically confirms rubin will play at least one year in college:

    "Rubin said his title at Wimbledon does not change his plan to attend college for a one year, at either Wake Forest or Virginia, with that decision to be made in the next few weeks. He will play the Godfrey Illinois Futures, then Kalamazoo, with a week off to rest and recover from his eight wins in the past ten days."

    http://tenniskalamazoo.blogspot.com/
     
  7. George Opelka

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    Turn pro or learn pro? IMO, for 99% of the blue chip population, college is a no brainer.

    In addition to the Americans that played junior Wimbledon, Kalamazoo is going to be get interesting with Altamirano and Donaldson in the draw.
     
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    Scroll down the list of people who have won and then tell me why it is a no-brainer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_boys'_singles_champions

    I am not arguing one way or the other for the guy to play pro or go to college. But, judging from the fact NONE of these guys has gone to college, I would find it really surprising he breaks the mold. Especially to play somewhere like Wake Forest...with all due respect to Wake.
     
  9. George Opelka

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    Scroll through the list of players that didn't go to college and didn't make it. You have to look at the entire population of players. It's easy to cherry pick from the winners and make assumptions.
     
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    TOTALLY not arguing that at all and understand that fully. Everyone knows that for every Roddick, there is a Kristian Pless. I remember watching Ignatik at Orange Bowl and thinking that despite being 1 ITF, he probably wouldn't make a ton of money with tennis. Having said that, nobody who has won Jr. Wimby in the past decade has gone to college.
     
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    Just because none the winners of Junior Wimbledon went to college, doesn't meet they shouldn't have. I bet many of the guys on that list would make a different decision about turning pro early if they had the chance.

    Think about it: would you rather be anonymously grinding away on the futures circuit or setting yourself up for a post-tennis career. I realize most 17 / 18 year old kids think they're future hall of famers and this is perpetuated by the presence of agents and others who stand to make money off them if they do turn pro. The reality is far less rosy, though. Many top junior players that go pro early just end up grinding away on the futures circuit and are pigeon holed into a career feeding tennis balls because they don't have an education.

    It seems like Rubin has a good head on his shoulders, so hopefully he'll make an informed decision.
     
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    I watched the Rubin/Kozlov match on TC and I think Rubin can benefit from at least a year of college. He's got skills but I think the year of collegiate experience will allow him to work on his weaknesses.
     
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    If Rubin is able to secure a contract that would provide complete financial support for two years, then I'd say, "Go Pro." The biggest advantage of college for an aspiring pro, in my opinion, is financial. All the rest of the stuff, training, coaching, physical and emotional development can happen on the futures, challenger tours. And if he fails, he can always get his education later. The biggest disadvantage to college is the lack of matches and if Rubin doesn't play one, or two, quality of matches is also an issue.
     
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    Mansouri is definitely coming to Wake. He should be a top 6 guy. I don't know what to think about Rubin, but I can't see him spurning UVA for Wake. I could be wrong. I think Rubin is probably better than Boegarts, but I could still see Bresky playing Rubin at 2 some of the time. Boegarts didn't have a great year last year in my opinion. With Rubin they should have a great team. Without him, they are a player short. Ho and Kan need to be playing 3 and 4, and Dumont, Laaribi, Kunz, etc. need to be at 5 and 6.
     
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    Rubin to Wake. Consider me surprised. Top 6 looks like this in my opinion:

    Bogaerts
    Rubin
    Ho
    Kan
    Mansouri
    Dumont
     
  16. Clemson_tennis

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    That still doesn't look that much better. Yes 1 and 2 will be fearsome but 3 and 4 will be up and down. Who knows if Dumont can regain his form again and we will have to see how well Mansouri adjusts to college tennis
     
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    Nice to see Rubin blazing his own trail and choosing an up and coming program (ie not Duke, Virginia, Georgia, USC, UCLA, Florida, etc.). It will be very interesting to see if he has a "Jamie Loeb-like" impact at Wake from day 1. Now that he's made his decision, what are everyone's choices are top incoming freshman? Off the top of my head my top 5 would probably be:
    1a Noah Rubin
    1b Colin Altamarino (if he decides to attend college at all)
    3 Wayne Montgomery
    4 Martin Redlecki (has had a very good summer)
    5 Dan Kerznerman
     
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    Wake lost 8 matches this year by a 4-3 score and in all 8 of those matches they lost the 1 and/or 2 singles match. I think adding Rubin could make a very big difference.
     
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    Few more to watch:
    Papa
    Mayronne
    Oosterbaan (redshirt freshman)
     
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    Sorry I quoted the wrong post previously.

    Few more to watch:

    Papa
    Mayronne
    Oosterbaan (redshirt freshman)
     
  21. Clemson_tennis

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    Also Mazen Osama
     
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    Looks like I picked the right time to relocate, next season should be a lot of fun.
     
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    Not sure how expansion will impact the schedules for next year but some key matches and locations:

    UVA will be AT Wake
    UNC will be AT Wake
    Wake will be AT Duke
    Duke and UNC will be AT UVA
    Wake will be AT Clemson
     
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    The expansion adds Louisville and Notre Dame as travel partners. One more conference weekend for each team, everything else stays the same. When Maryland dropped they had to change it up, where clemson had to go to FSU two years in a row and nc state had to travel to UNC two straight years.
     
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    Adrian Chamdani to Duke, 2015
     
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    TSK vs. Ronnie Schneider today in US Futures 2nd round. Should be interesting, but I'll say that Ronnie takes it in 3.
     
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    TSK won it going away 3 & 4. No break point opportunities for Schneider.
     
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    UVA's Mitchell Frank also won and both are in the QF's. They will play each other if they both win in the QF's. That would be a very interesting match for UVA fans. I really think TSK is just or almost as good as MF. They are also playing doubles together.

    Interesting that UVA's #5 from last year beat UNC's #2. TSK can really play and he has all the shots. I think he is the best all around player at UVA and with a tad more offensive power and bigger serve, I think he can become a top 10 NCAA player. Not counting the new guys he may still play only #4 with Mitchell Frank, Ryan Shane, and Mac Styslinger ahead of him. MS was not playing very well near the end of the season, as he just could not keep the ball in play long enough to win the tough points. Coach Boland did not play him in the NCAA semis and moved TSK up to #4, Justin Shane to 5 and JC Aragone to 6. JS and JCA lost very close matches and TSK was down in the 3rd set when it ended.
     
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    What has Styslinger been up to this summer? Haven't seen his name in any of the tournaments. At this point, I would be shocked if Thai didn't play ahead of Styslinger.
     
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    I do not know, but it does not appear that he has played any Futures events and maybe not at all since the NCAA's, which is kind of strange for college players.

    UVA's coaches never discuss injuries, but some UVA fans thought he must have been injured, as there was no explanation as to his relatively poor play last spring. It was not an obvious physical injury, as I watched him play at the ACC's and the NCAA's, but clearly he was not playing as well as he did in his freshman year. I suppose it could have been a sore shoulder or pulled muscle.

    If he rebounds to his former level of play, UVA is going to be very tough to beat this year.
     
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    Good win for TSK. I followed online and it appeared routine. Would be very interested in seeing Frank vs. TSK. I agree with others in thinking that TSK will play ahead of Mac. The wildcards are Ritschard, and Altamirano. I'd put those 2 in the top 5 with MF, RS, and TSK. 6 would be a battle but a healthy MS would have a good shot, but so would Henrik and some of the rising So.
     
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    Ronnie ended the season badly and it doesn't seem this summer has seen any resurgence. With Schnur also struggling just now UNC has some searching to do
     
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    Both Ritschard and Henrik will be starting in january so it will be interesting to see if boland will just put them in the lineup ahead of tsk or mac. i doubted it.there are also rumors that jordan daigle s not coming back to play for uva. strange! is he quitting tennis or just uva?
     
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    Why would it be strange? Almost every projected 2015 lineup by any uva poster on here doesn't have Daigle in the top 8. Maybe the kid just wants to play.
     
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    hmm interesting to see Henrik lost to Jarryd Chaplin in godfrey Qualies, not really a loss I would expect from someone of his high acclaim, Chaplin is good but no world beater, playing middle of TN line-up.
     
  36. Clemson_tennis

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    It was a bit of a strange decision for him to choose UVA in the first place. So yeah him going somewhere else isn't too shocking.
     
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    UVA's line up is so deep and large the most surprising thing is we don't see a transfer out every year. Credit to Boland, again.
     
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    Chaplin played 3 at Tennessee and plays a VERY, VERY unorthodox style, so I could see Henrik losing a close 5 and 5 match to an older more experienced player the first time around.
     
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    Chaplin was weird. The only times I saw him play he got killed and he got crushed many times a year yet he would also have some randomly good wins.
     
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    He plays a bit of a feast or famine type of game. He serves and volleys quite a bit, and slices off BOTH sides almost all the time. If the slices are skidding deep, it's tough. If they are falling short and bouncing up, he's in big trouble.
     
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    uva posters are not always correct in their assumptions. plus, everyone has their versions of who they think should be playing. some are even putting weirsholm ahead of mac and thai. i just did not think that henrik would be playing ahead of daigle
     
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    fromer GT teammaters Spir and O'Brien will face off in the 2nd round of the future in Medellin.
     
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    FSU announced that they'll have 5 matches shown on ESPN3 next season. The release said they didn't know which matches but I guess ESPN told them we'll give you 5. Good sign that maybe there will be many more matches streamed this year.
     
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    Takin this idea from Wil Wilson in the Big Ten thread. Post about your favorite ACC team as we prepare for the fall season to start. What line-up do you expect? What kind of season do you think your team can have?


    I have the Clemson thread but I will post briefly about Clemson here in terms of how they stack up in the ACC.

    I expect a slight drop from Clemson. Losing Dom Maden is a big hit. He was one of the very best doubles players in the country (reached the top 10 with two different partners in his career) and really blossomed in singles last year as well beating Ronnie Schnieder and Ryan Shane.

    Hunter Harrington should continue to be a pretty good #1. The issue I see with this team is at 2 and 3. Augusto can step up to #2 but it will be tough for him there and Ansari at 3 will be an issue. This team would benefit from an international coming in January to fill the spot at 2 or 3, but I think all spots are filled up. I expect the young freshmen of last year to be a little better this year and to win more consistently at 5 and 6, either Dudley/Kennedy or Sala to step up. Sanon could be a help down there too.

    Projected top 6:
    1. Hunter Harrington
    2. Alejandro Augusto
    3. Austin Ansari
    4. Luke Johnson
    5. Robery Dudley/Daffra Sanon
    6. Dudley/Sanon/Sala/Kennedy

    25-35 ranked team.
     
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    Clemson_Tennis, I like the idea. Here's my take on Wake Forest.

    I thought the Deacs under performed last year. Two years ago they made the finals of the ACC tourney by beating Duke, but last year they lost a lot of 4-3 matches (9 total I think).

    They lose Adam Lee, who played 2 or 3 singles. I liked watching him play, but like the team, he performed better two years ago than he did last year. They also lose Aws Laarbi, who played 5 or 6 singles some matches.

    The Deacs add Noah Rubin and Skander Mansouri, and I think both with play in the top 6. I expect pretty significant improvement, with Wake finishing top 15 in the country. I see the lineup as:

    1. Noah Rubin
    2. Romain Bogaerts
    3. Jonathan Ho
    4. Max Kan
    5. Skander Mansouri
    6. Anthony Delcore with Pedro Dumont/Sam Bloom/Niky Kunz/Jaya Billa competing for that last spot
     
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    For UVA-

    1) Mitchell Frank (Sr)
    2) Ryan Shane (Jr)
    3) Thai-Son Kwiatkowski (Soph)
    4) Mac Styslinger (Jr)
    5) Collin Altamirano (Fr) (assumes he does not turn pro of course)
    6) Alexander Ritschard (Fr)
    7) J C Aragone (Soph) or Luca Corinteli (in case CA does not come)
     
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    just realized I forgot about Hampton Drake. He will also be in the fight for 6 and maybe 5. A hodge-podge down there
     
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    I could see Mansouri playing as high as 3 for Wake.

    For UVA, I think Henrik Wiersholm will be in the mix at 6 possibly ahead of Ritschard and it will be interesting to see where CA is slotted assuming he does arrive in January. In my opinion he'd be at 4 ahead of Mac.
     
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    Miami's line up is anyone's guess. With Soto, Aly and Flores graduating and with Albanese transferring to Arkansas, there are only four players left from last year. There are four new recruits coming in so we'll have to see where they fit in as the season goes. Here's my educated-wild guess.

    No. 1 William Gonzalez (Senior)
    No. 2 Piotr Lomacki (Could move up to No. 1 eventually)
    No. 3 Alexander Fahnehjelm (international player from Sweden)
    No. 4 Christian Langmo (TRN 2014 Class #18)
    No. 5 Henrique Tsukamoto (Senior)
    No. 6 Bernard Tefel (Sophomore)

    The new recruits had better be really good or Miami is in for a even worse year than the last three if that's possible.
     
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    Both Schnur and Ronnie Schneider have been pretty up and down in the last few months so I am not sure how they will progress in the next year. Someone told me Skattum left but he is still on the Carolina online roster.
     

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