Aces In One Set

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  1. 380pistol

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    If this is in the wrong section feel free to move it. This is what I know......

    19 - Richard Krajicek (1998 Wimbledon SF 5th set vs Ivanisevic 13-15)
    16 - Goran Ivanisevic (1994 Wimbledon F 1st set vs Sampras 6-7[2])
    16 - Pete Sampras (2000 Aus Open SF 4th set vs Agassi 6-7[5])
    13 - Pete Sampras (1995 Aus Open F 4th set vs Agassi 4-6)
    12 - Michael Stich (1993 ATP World Champ F 4th set vs Sampras 6-2)
    12 - Pete Sampras (2002 US Open F 1st set vs Agassi 6-3)
    11 - Pete Sampras (1995 US Open F 4th set vs Agassi 7-5)
    10 - Pete Sampras (2002 US Open F 3rd set vs Agassi 5-7)


    Ivanisevic, Philippoussis, Karlovic and Johansson are are going to have a few entries on this list, so if you know of any please add. Please keep it 10+ aces a set.

    I know Sam Querry hit 10 in a row, but don't how how many he finished the set with. Ivanisevic had 35 in 3 sets (1996 YEC SF vs Sampras) so he should be on the list again. Sampras opened his 1998 Wimbledon match vs Enqvist with 7 straight aces, and in 1995 Grand Slam Cup had 24 aces in 2 sets P. McEnroe. Roddick hit 24 in 2 sets in Cincinnati 2005 vs Hewitt, so that puts him on the list, as does his 31 aces in 4 sets vs Hewitt in 2005 Aus Open.

    Philippoussis had 29 in 3 sets vs Sampras in 1996 Aus Open, and 28 in 3 sets later that year vs Pete at Wimbeldon. Johansson's 51 aces (in 4 sets) effort vs Agassi puts him on the list, but I dont how many he had in a any singular set. The same with Krajicek's 49 aces (in 5 sets) vs Kafelnikov at the US Open.
     
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  2. Moose Malloy

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    I have 17 aces for Sampras for that set.

    I counted 12 aces for Goran in the 3rd set of that match.
     
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    i thought goran had 17 in his 1st set of wimbledon 1994 final... but i'm probably wrong, it's 14 years ago ! ;)

    a good start would be indeed to already take the list of the most aces served in a match, and look at the number of sets for finding the most probable highest totals of aces in a set...

    some other candidates :
    - i think goran had 44 aces in 4 sets against vacek at wimbledon 1998
    - same goran, 40 aces against norman... in a 3 sets(!) match at zagreb in 1997
    - philippoussis, 44 aces against b.black... in a 3 sets(!) match at KL in 1995
    (is it the record for a best-of-3 match ? i think guccione served more aces in a 3 sets match in the wimbledon qualifications... but technically i think it was still a best-of-5 match !)
    - karlovic had also 14 aces in the 3rd (and last) set against serra at the USO this year (42 overall)... and he played only 18 points on his serve in that set !!!
    (but maybe serra wasn't even trying ?...)
     
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    The reason I have 16 is that when he hit an ace to go up 6-0 in 3rd set tie break ESPN said that was his 18th of the match. He hit one earlier in the tie break as well. And an article about the match said 34 of Pete's 37 aces came in the 1st 4 sets.


    Well that puts Goran on the list at least twice (maybe 3 times). Taking away that 12 would give him 23 over the 1st 2 sets.
     
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    Thaks for the help. And next update will have Karlovic on it. He had 42 in just 3 sets. Take away that 14 and he still has 28. Tha match alone hould have him on the list 3 times!!

    He had 35 in 3 sets vs Nadal in Queens this year. He should be there the most.
     
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    I know that Becker hit 25 aces in the two set round robin match against Sampras at the YEC in 96...
     
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    I have Ivanisevic hitting 13 aces in the first set of the 1998 W final, and Becker at 10 in the second set of the '96 TMC final.

    I may have others in my matches, I've never tracked this.
     
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    John Feaver served 42 aces against Newcombe in a 6-3 3-6 8-9 6-4 6-4 loss at Wimbledon ('76), you might get 10 in some of those sets.
     
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    I have him with 35 of his 37 in the 1st four sets.

    aces by set:
    3, 6, 9, 17, 2
     
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    So far I have.....

    19 - Richard Krajicek (1998 Wimbledon SF 5th set vs Ivanisevic 13-15)
    16 - Goran Ivanisevic (1994 Wimbledon F 1st set vs Sampras 6-7[2])
    16 - Pete Sampras (2000 Aus Open SF 4th set vs Agassi 6-7[5])
    14 - Ivo Karlovic (2008 US Open 3rd rd 3rd set vs Serra 6-2)
    13 - Pete Sampras (1995 Aus Open F 4th set vs Agassi 4-6)
    13 - Goran Ivanisevic (1998 Wimbledon F 1st set vs Sampras 7-6[2])
    12 - Michael Stich (1993 ATP World Champ F 4th set vs Sampras 6-2)
    12 - Pete Sampras (2002 US Open F 1st set vs Agassi 6-3)
    11 - Pete Sampras (1995 US Open F 4th set vs Agassi 7-5)
    10 - Boris Becker (1996 ATP World Champ 2nd set vs Sampras 6-7[5])
    10 - Pete Sampras (2002 US Open F 3rd set vs Agassi 5-7)

    Also....

    Karlovic (2008 US Open vs Serra) - 42 aces in 3 sets
    Ivanisevic (1996 ATP F vs Sampras) - 35 aces in 3 sets
    Feaver (1976 Wimbledon vs Newcombe) - 42 aces in 5 sets
    J. Johansson (2005 Aus Open vs Agassi) - 51 aces in 4 sets
    Krajicek (1996 Wimbldon QF vs Sampras) - 28 aces in 3 sets
    Sampras (1998 Wimbledon 3rd vs Enqvist) - 29 aces in 3 sets (opened match with 7 straight)
    Karlovic (2008 Madrid vs Djokovic) - 20 aces in 2 sets
    Karlovic (2008 Madrid vs Simon) - 27 aces in 3 sets
    Karlovic (2008 Nottingham vs Verdasco) - 29 aces in 3 sets
    Karlovic (2008 Queens vs Nadal) - 35 aces in 3 sets
    Sampras (1995 Grand Slam Cup P. McEnroe) - 24 aces in 2 sets
    Becker (1996 ATP RR vs Sampras) - 24 aces in 2 sets
    Rusedski (1997 Grand Slam Cup vs Sampras) - 37 aces in 4 sets


    Thanks to all those who helped (are helping) and provided info.
     
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    Ivanisevic, 11 in the first set of the '92 W final, 10 in the fifth set (my count).
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    The discrepancy is you have 35 for the 1st 4 sets, while this article has 34....
    http://www.geocities.com/hovav13/art-ao00agassi.html
    2nd one

    We both have 37 for the match and 18 after 3 sets. I kow journalists are not the most accurate with their counts, but just wanted you to know where my info came from.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Jochim Johansson served 54 aces and still lost to Agassi in 4 sets at the AO in 2005
     
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    Federer had 10 aces in the second set, 13 in the fifth set (which went to 10-8) against Tipsarevic (AO stats).

    Gasquet had 10 aces in his fifth set against Roddick (my own count).

    Curren had 33 aces against Connors at the 1983 Wimbledon (New York Times), 6-3, 6-7, 6-3, 7-6.

    The BBC had Krajicek at 15 on his third ace of the second set, so 12 altogether for the first set.

    The Boston Globe has Krajicek hitting 29 aces altogether and said that he won the match with his "final ace"; but Pete grazed that serve with the edge of his racquet, which may be the reason the ATP has only 28.

    So you know, Moose and I only count clean aces.
     
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    ... 19 aces in the 1st set for isner, against hrbaty ! ;)
    (and the match is not over !)
     
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    NY Times: "Still, in the final set, it was Krajicek who had smoother service games: 23 of his 42 aces were delivered there."
     
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    Per ZDF network, Becker had 14 in the first set, Sampras 10. I had the same counts, and I have Becker at 10 in the second set.
     
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    For Curren-Connors, 1983 Wimbledon.

    13 of Curren's aces were in the fourth set, per the New York Times.


    Associated Press on Goran-Pioline, 2000 AO, R164:

     
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    Kuerten served 47 aces in 5 sets against Daniel Nestor in a Davis Cup match in 2003 (and somehow he managed to lose!)
     
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    ... and 22 by roger in the (16-14) 5th set of the final of wimbledon 2009 ! ;)
    http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/stats/day21/1701ss5.html
     
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    Guccione served 23 aces in the third set in his Wimbledon 2005 Qualifying match, and 50 aces overall (three sets)
     
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    Wayne Arthurs used to hit insane amounts too.
     
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    Flipper hit 44 aces in a 3 set match (which was a record at the time) IF I recall correctly. so set(s) from that match must be on the list. I also think he served 20 aces against Schalken at Wimbledon in one set.
     
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    14 aces by chardy in the 2nd set of his match (total 22), today (hamburg, 2nd round against beck)... not too bad on clay ! ;)
     
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    last minute: 27 aces in the 5th set for the tree against the worm in the croatia vs. czech republic davis cup SF !
     
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    ^^^ And in fact ALL FIVE sets had 10+ aces from the tree.
    In yesterday's Croatia v Czech Republic Match
    Karlovic: 5th set 27 aces -Beaten to that by vive le beau jeu :)
    3rd set: 15
    2nd set: 13
    4th set: 12
    1st set: 11
    For that monster grand total of 78.
     
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    Each set is like a car gradually accelerating to full speed. 11 aces, 12 aces, 13 aces, 15 aces, and finally 27 aces.
     
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    the 27 aces were actually over 2 sets in reality (16-14).. :)
     
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    well, technically not, yay karlo has the record!
     
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    in the 2nd set of r.gasquet vs j.johansson (kuala lumpur, 2009):
    13 aces for JJ and 14 for RG ! ;)
     
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    14 for RG? :shock: was JJ on a wheelchair?
     
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    karlovic vs serra, 1st round at basel 2009: 17 aces in the 1st set for karlovic (who lost the match 76 64)
     
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    roddick vs querrey, SF at san jose 2010: 14 aces in the 2nd set for querrey
     
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    chardy vs malisse, 1st round at delray beach 2010: 13 aces for chardy in the 2nd set.

    karlovic vs brands, 2nd round at delray beach 2010: 13 aces for kralovic in the 1st set... and 13 aces again in the 2nd set !
     
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    Ashe - 16 aces in first set of a 14-12, 5-7, 6-3, 3-6, 6-3 victory, 1968 USO final
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y2k7oa3V_w

    Pancho Gonzales - 17 aces in first set of a 16-18, 2-6, 6-1, 6-2, 6-4 victory, 1949 US final

    John Doeg - 12 aces in the fourth set of 10-8, 6-3, 3-6, 12-10 victory, 1930 US semi

    Maurice McLoughlin - 12 aces in the first set of a 17-15, 6-3, 6-3 victory over Norman Brookes, 1914 Davis Cup

    (All these matches were at Forest Hills)
     
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    At Wimbledon 2010, wouldn't Isner or Mahut have to have a LOT of aces in set 5. Yeah, I know, it's not a normal set by any means and the ace rate (aces per game) is probably not any higher than other examples given here, but the total number of aces must have been pretty high.
     
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    What about Curren's quarter- or semi-final matches against Connors and McEnroe at the 1985 Wimbledon? He must have served a high number of aces in those matches.
     
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    Yeah in that set Isner served 84, Mahut 77.

    He had a total of 17 against Connors, and 8 against Mac.
     
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    Wow, thanks! Fewer than I thought.
     
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    ...And he aced 33 times Connors in their Wimbledon 1983 match.
     
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    according the the stats, raonic had 18 aces in his 1st set against hewitt in washington.
     
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    I heard about a record of John Feaver, maybe Wimbledon 76? I don´t recall it, does anybody remember it?
     
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    16 - Sabine Lisicki (2015 Birmingham R2 1st set vs Bencic 6-1)

    She achieved this in 4 service games! That is, out of 42 points she served for in the first set 16 were aces!!! I think this can be a record. Edit: giving it a re-think Karlovic must have set that record against Serra in UO '08.

    PS - She set a record for most aces served in WTA match, in 2 sets with a total of 27 aces.
     
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    How is that all of Sampras sets are against Agassi? You would imagine that this kind of record would be against someone who couldnt return. Maybe Pete really brought it when it mathered the most. :)
     
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    Good catch. It could also be because OP collected data from high profile matches, ie the ones he can remember. Could it also be that because of Agassi's aggressive stance, ie standing up higher, he was also more susceptible to aces? I cant find reliable data to verify that.

    Still incredible :evil:
     
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