Active Players You Thought Were Destined For Greatness But Who Fizzled Instead

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Cindysphinx, May 7, 2008.

  1. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2006
    Messages:
    15,067
    Biggest disappointment for me: Lubijic. How the heck does that guy flame out at all the majors and then drop out of sight? I don't get it. I will never get it.
     
    #1
  2. LeftyServe

    LeftyServe Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2005
    Messages:
    545
    First, let's define "greatness."
     
    #2
  3. superman1

    superman1 Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,243
    Eh, none of them. I never thought for a second Ljubicic was going to be great, even when he was an insanely good Davis Cupper. I was surprised how horribly he did in the Slams, but I never expected him to win them anyway.

    There are players who I thought would have done more by now - Gasquet and Andy Murray for example.
     
    #3
  4. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2006
    Messages:
    15,067
    "Greatness" = Win a major or become No. 1 in the world
     
    #4
  5. joeri888

    joeri888 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    13,123
    Than I'd say no one, and am surprised Djokovic already has one, because I expected Rafa and Roger to devide the slams between the two of them
     
    #5
  6. PCXL-Fan

    PCXL-Fan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    2,872
    Location:
    Arlington, VA
    I don't really see why Murray was hailed as one of the next greats. I saw back in the end of 06 Djokovic had potential, definitely moreso than Murray, but all eyes of the media including people on this forum were centered on Murray.

    Gasquet is good but he's no #1. Possibly reaching Top 2 or 3 temporarily but not consistantly.

    I thought Marat Safin would have done more by now... but he's fading out... I guess he's losing confidence.
     
    #6
  7. lambielspins

    lambielspins Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    2,715
    Safin could be considered to have had a great career I guess, but could have done alot more with his ability. When he won that U.S Open in 2000 I thought he would go on to win a minimum of 6 slams.

    Haas I once though was really going to be a great player and he never became. Same with Phillippoussis.

    Alberto Mancini was a bigtime up and coming clay courter in the late 80s. He never panned out to be what I thought he would be. In 89 he beat Becker to win Monte Carlo and Agassi to win Rome, and was one of the favorites for the French but lost to Edberg in the quarters.
     
    #7
  8. coloskier

    coloskier Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,484
    When Taylor Dent first came out people thought he had a chance at Wimbledon and USO. Back injuries are a b**h.
     
    #8
  9. Cup8489

    Cup8489 Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2007
    Messages:
    9,189
    Location:
    Silvis, IL
    James Blake. when he came back on tour after the injury and everything else, i remember everyone was like 'DUDE this guy's got the US Open, i swear'. poor blake.
     
    #9
  10. deme08

    deme08 Professional

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,020
    Nalbandian and Gasquet!

    Gasquet still has time to prove himself. Nalbandian's clock is ticking however.
     
    #10
  11. Greenfin Beta

    Greenfin Beta Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2008
    Messages:
    604
    Location:
    54°19′31″N 10°8′26″E
    Coria

    Coria? But is he still active?
     
    #11
  12. Kaptain Karl

    Kaptain Karl Hall Of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2004
    Messages:
    5,236
    Location:
    The High Country of Colorado
    Safin and Henman ... and on the WTA side, Molik.

    - KK
     
    #12
  13. Vision84

    Vision84 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,655
    Location:
    Cambridge, UK
    I expected more from Haas and Phillipousis but they were both plagued by injuries. Dent as well when I first saw him play Hewitt and take him to 5 sets. Phillipousis never really worked on conditioning so his body got injured easily. Not sure about the other two.
     
    #13
  14. coloskier

    coloskier Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,484
    Dent, bad back
    Haas, no shoulder left to speak of
     
    #14
  15. LeftyServe

    LeftyServe Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2005
    Messages:
    545
    It's very tough to consider current players in such a way when we're in the era of Federer dominating so thoroughly on grass and hard, and Nadal dominating on clay.
     
    #15
  16. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    Apart from Federer, Nadal and Safin, absolutely none of them. I truthfully never thought Hewitt would do as well as he has and I'm still surprised Roddick was able to win a major. Apart from that, I don't think there's anyone currently playing who made me feel they were destined for greatness (thought Nalbandian would do better but never as #1).
     
    #16
  17. my_forehand

    my_forehand Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    891
    Location:
    haha.HA!
    I always thought Haas was going to be great. Oh well.

    Henman?
     
    #17
  18. Arrows

    Arrows Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Messages:
    193
    Location:
    Australia
    Yes, I agree about Molik. And Li Na, too.



    Arrows
    "No, it's Wigner's friend."
     
    #18
  19. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2006
    Messages:
    15,067
    Li Na????????????????
     
    #19
  20. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    Safin, Nalbandian, Henman, Rios
     
    #20
  21. pound cat

    pound cat G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    13,743
    Greatness? Safin according to Pete Sampras after he won USO.

    Tennis has been a difficult thing for Safin since that fateful win.
     
    #21
  22. laurie

    laurie Guest

    Ivan Ljubicic was never destined for greatness. He got too far up the rankings - he has no real movement, I call him the lumberjack.

    That sort of player never wins big tournaments.
     
    #22
  23. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    Agreed, I really thought he was going to be a big thing for a while. Unfortunate as it's all up top, if he had got his head in gear who knows what might have been
     
    #23
  24. Tempest344

    Tempest344 Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,221
    Location:
    Sydney
    Molik for sure
    that ear infection really did her over

    also Gaudio
     
    #24
  25. HyperHorse

    HyperHorse Banned

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,329
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Kuerten, Rios, Kafelnikov, Rafter, Ivanisevic..
    All could have done better in the slams.
     
    #25
  26. ATXtennisaddict

    ATXtennisaddict Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,278
    Yeah, Ivan just fizzled. He was pretty decent 2-3 years back.

    But he wasn't "destined for greatness".
     
    #26
  27. daddy

    daddy Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Messages:
    5,686
    Location:
    Moon Balls
    Active ? Monfils. I thought after his 2004 juniors season where he failed just short of winning a grand slam ( would be 2nd ever after 1983 Edbergs ) in Juniors by a virtue of injury in USO for boys - I really thought he's going to dominate the game. Various shots, shotmaking quality, serve of high quality and great volleys on grass, yet able to stay 10 feet behind on clay and play great.

    However he is French.
     
    #27
  28. dirtballer

    dirtballer Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2004
    Messages:
    944
    Mancini and Berasategi (sp?)
     
    #28
  29. cujays

    cujays Professional

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,195
    mark philoposus
    sorry for the spelling
     
    #29
  30. Vision84

    Vision84 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,655
    Location:
    Cambridge, UK
    The British put huge expectations on Henman at Wimbledon. Every year was supposed to be his year and yet he never got past the semis. he was in a record consecutive second weeks at Wimbledon though. I think he was just lacking the firepower to be able to beat players like Sampras there.
     
    #30
  31. tkauffm

    tkauffm Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2007
    Messages:
    105
    Location:
    Oregon
    Good point! I thought he was going to make some moves too. He's just so athletic. Another Frenchman who's not living up to the hype is Gasquet. He just doesn't seem to want it. Of course Safin has got to be one of the biggest disappointments. He and Fed could have had a good rivalry if he kept his game up. What about Jimmy Arias? People were expecting great things from him
     
    #31
  32. Batoussai

    Batoussai Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2005
    Messages:
    237
    We defined greatness in the beginning of the thread as:

    N°1 or Winning a slam

    Thus...

    Gaudio won a slam. Not exactly greatness but he did win one. Not underachieving when you can say you won RG.
     
    #32
  33. roundiesee

    roundiesee Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,845
    Expected Xavier Malisse and Mario Ancic to do well especially in Slams but unfortunately never materialised. The closest they got was Wimby semis I think but never better than this.
     
    #33
  34. pound cat

    pound cat G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    13,743



    On the other hand, his on-court attraction is largely because of his quirky, unpredictable, crazy mentality on the court, and without it he'd just be another run of the mill tennis hunk who won a couple of slams out of nowhere.

    His out of gear head + his talent = the charismatic, frustrating Safin package loved by millions.

    With one half of the equation miissing, he just wouldn't be Safin.
     
    #34
  35. orangettecoleman

    orangettecoleman Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2007
    Messages:
    1,208
    Location:
    Mesa, AZ
    I saw the 2004 Winbledon match with Ancic and Fed and was like "holy crap this Ancic kid is awesome, he has to win this in the next year or two!" haha OH WELL
     
    #35
  36. 127mph

    127mph Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    777
    Well, I will mention someone who had talent and did absolutely nothing. Hicham Arazi. He honestly hated professional tennis and got sick of it, but he had game for sure.
     
    #36
  37. Arrows

    Arrows Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Messages:
    193
    Location:
    Australia
    Yes. Untimely rib injury...*sniff*. I'm Chinese and I need someone to support.



    Arrows
    "No, it's Wigner's friend."
     
    #37
  38. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    That's very true, in a way that's part of why I used to love to watch Ivanisevic playing also. I guess I would have just loved to see more of the amazing but erratic talent, more "on" days if you will. I just loved the raw agression of his earlier play, pure attack
     
    #38
  39. tennissavy

    tennissavy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    I have a feeling that, when this topic comes up again some day, we will be adding Murray to the list.
     
    #39
  40. Crisp

    Crisp Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    609
    I didnt think he was destined for greatness but a few years ago i kept putting money on Nalbandian to win a slam, i thought it was just a matter of time. he still has achance i guess( tic-toc tic-toc)
     
    #40
  41. boris becker 1

    boris becker 1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2004
    Messages:
    364
    safin

    ancic


    robredo
     
    #41
  42. fantom

    fantom Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    1,542
    With all of the negativity on these boards, I'm surprised Federer (08 results) and Nadal (blister issue) haven't been added to this thread.
     
    #42
  43. Wimbledunn

    Wimbledunn Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Messages:
    108
    Rios and Gasquet

    in five years: Gulbis, Monfils
     
    #43
  44. jamesblakefan#1

    jamesblakefan#1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2007
    Messages:
    15,705
    Location:
    VA Beach
    Baghdatis, Monfils. Vaidisova. Gilles Mueller after he beat Roddick.
     
    #44
  45. BeHappy

    BeHappy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,789
    kendrick .
     
    #45
  46. Sticklacer

    Sticklacer New User

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    67
    Philippoussis - would have bet he would have won at least one Wimby
     
    #46
  47. icazares

    icazares Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2006
    Messages:
    304
    Nalbandian. He should have won a number of slams. Marcelo Rios, very disappointing career from my point of view.
     
    #47
  48. boredone3456

    boredone3456 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2007
    Messages:
    4,932
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    men

    Safin- ok he won a slam...but it was apparently a fluke as he hasnt done anything since then.

    Nalbandian- what the heck is with him...he doesn't know how to close the deal consistantly

    Women

    Severine Bremond- Miracle run to Wimbledon quarters, pushed Henin in the quarters...and then poof she drops of the face of the earth, proverbially speaking

    Karolina Sprem- has the potential...but with all her injuries I doubt it.
     
    #48
  49. WillAlwaysLoveYouTennis

    WillAlwaysLoveYouTennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 11, 2006
    Messages:
    1,738
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Philippoussis is one of the biggest I thought would really stay up there with the best of them. One kept always hoping he'd come back strong, but there always was an injury or distractions or something that interfered.

    Berdych, but he's young yet along with Gulbis.
     
    #49
  50. Miami Tiburon

    Miami Tiburon Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    540
    I think we should call this the Jimmy Arias
    Award.Monfills and some of the names I have seen like Gasquet still to early to tell.
     
    #50

Share This Page