Addicted to winning

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  1. Gonzalito17

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    Ever start to win so much and get to playing so good that you feel like you have to win every ball, every point every game, every match, singles doubles? There's a guy like that around our courts, the guy is good, he was average a few years ago with unorthodox strokes and a weird serve but he kept working on his game and now has really good form, and he can beat teaching pros and he actually wins local and USTA tournaments. The guy is so competitive, even pick up games or baseline games he plays every point like it's life or death, even in doubles and if his partner is playing bad he'll walk off the court. A lot of people don't like it but we all respect him. The guy is a winner plays fair and is kind of an inspiration because he once was so average and is now a top notch player. He explains it that he loves to play but even more so loves to win, called it addicted to winning.
     
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    He might be a really cool guy, but some people would dare say he's a cherrypicker.
    I can win almost all my sets if I play only 3.5 level players, and some of those sets, I have to really try.
    But playing 4.5, I will lose every set, or certainly every match.
    I believe water has to find it's level. If it doesn't, there is an imbalance in the works.
     
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    Winning is nice. But winning every match also means you're not challenging yourself and not playing the right people. Because there are *always* going to be players better than you.

    There is a guy at my club who is like 20-0 in club matches (it's a combined 4.0 / 4.5 ladder). He cherrypicks his matches and makes sure he plays only people he knows he can beat (the weaker 4.0s), and then he ducks matches against the 4.5s and stronger 4.0s.

    I have no respect for that. His record seems impressive on the surface but is meaningless when you dig a little deeper.
     
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  4. floridatennisdude

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    Agree, sounds like a chump
     
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    Or if you play a lot of doubles, you got the guys who somehow always manage to be paired with the best player on the court, and when its their "turn" to be paired with the weaker player, they find an excuse to leave early or "I need to take a break... can someone else jump in?" Winning is fun, and everyone likes to win, but what's the challenge when you stack the deck?
     
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    Total Dbag.
     
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    I would not respect a guy that walked off the court in doubles because his partner was not playing well. If you agree to play a doubles match with somebody you finish it no matter how your partner is playing. If he is winning all the time, it does not mean he is some competitive inspirational player. It means he is playing lower level competition and refuses to challenge himself. This guys sounds like he suffers from "Big fish small pond syndrome"
     
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    If you are winning anywhere close to 90% of your matches you are likely in the wrong division or live in an area that does not have enough appropriate competition.

    As for walking off the court in doubles... spot has it right, though I would have used the wording "immature crybaby".
     
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    Yep, you got that right - that was the part that I caught as well. And I think the other responses are spot-on also; he's likely not playing anyone who can seriously challenge him.
     
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    how do you respect a guy who throws his doubles partner under the bus and walks off the court ??
     
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    LOL, that was not cool at all. The poor guy was playing good in the beginning but then got tight and started to choke pretty bad missed a lot of shots. Last year two other partners, different players then these 4, got into a fight amongst themselves during the set and actually came to blows! It was one guy the better player talking down to the partner and then it heated up lol
     
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  12. goober

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    I am glad I am not playing in your circle of tennis buddies.
     
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    While I think I'm usually the second best of our doubles crowd, my record is slewed waaay towards losing, because I always pick the worst to play with, meaning I get to hit against the best and the third best, thus improving my game and my strategy.
     
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    Nothing like getting beat by better players to keep you grounded and make you better.

    It is easy to cherry pick like OP describes but that deserves zero respect. He will plateau if that is all he is doings

    Beating up on weaker players. That is just weak.
     
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    I think every club has people like that. I know a few that do that. Not sure what they get out of that, but I guess it means something to them to see their name near the top.
     
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    Everybody wants to win. There is nobody at these courts to beat this guy, there is one guy who has a chance but he got killed three years ago and has been reluctant to take the chance on the rematch, though some think he could win. The second best guy is a cherrypicker, he only plays matches he knows he will win, but always says he plays just for fun but he won't play the #1 guy for fun lol. the thing is a lot of people think he can beat the #1 guy if he plays his game.

    The #1 guy also plays at other courts and also in some tournaments.
     
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    Most players want to be at the top and have that respect of being a top player I think. That's the object to the game, play and have fun but most of all win. Some players just enjoy to play with friends and joke around and have fun and feel the pleasure of hitting the ball well. Others want to feel like Federer and Djokovic - the best - on a smaller level.
     
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    It's a weird place. All kinds of different players, different ethnicities, young old, male female, rich poor, and it's basically the same players each week for years and years. Public park courts. it's an interesting place )
     
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    Hmm. If you are in Bradenton, I would think there'd be a bunch of people in town who could conceivably beat this guy.
     
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    I've run into duckers at our club. Beat them once and they'll never play you again.
     
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    Plenty of duckers beat me, then never want to play me again.
     
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    They probably could, lot of good players down there. Where do they play in Bradenton?
     
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  23. North

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    I understand there's some tennis academy down there - supposed to be famous lol. If he thinks he can't get any good competition from the top juniors at Bollettieri, he could look up Max Myrni, who lives in Bradenton.
     
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    Every single person at that academy could probably beat the guy.
     
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    Who can win all singles matches by managing the list of opponents (list has to be at least 6-7 people long - different opponent every day of the week) please rise your hand.
     
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    I can schedule 20 singles matches and win them all, but none are my level.
    I can schedule 6 singles mathes and lose most, if they're my 4.0 - 4.5 buds.
     
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    Okay I confess guilt of picking on players I know I can beat but it's hard to find really good opponents when you can beat them all. So I called a guy who we play on occasion and he beat me in a tournament this summer 63 62 and we played on Sat and split sets 76 57, was a lot of fun.
     
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    there will always be someone better than you. no matter how good you think you are, there is always someone better, and they are generally in your area too. if your the best in your area you should be traveling playing tournaments where you will find someone better than you.
     
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