Adult tennis camps for serious training

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  1. SuperJimmy

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    I'm looking to find a good adult tennis camp that will really train its players hard. One of the more important things to me is probably the playing level of players that are likely to be in the camp. I am a 4.5 player looking to get over that hump into 5.0 (or atleast 5.0 sandbagging in 4.5 :twisted: ). Also important are the coaches that arent afraid to suggest sometimes "radical" changes if they see something that would really compliment my game. (the last thing I want to hear is "beautiful", "great shot", "amazing", etc all day long...I can say that to myself :) ) Ideally, the camp will be some sort of 1/2 week or 1 week session.

    I've done a search, and so far the comments seem to be mixed. It appears most of the time there are 1-2 4.5 players max, and everyone else is lower. On some rare occasions, there are tons of 5.0s - especially when coinciding with some tennis event nearby. Is it really just going to be rolling the dice and hoping I go during a time where other higher level players just so happen to register as well? I did read about one occasion where the poster was the only one there and got some really intense 1:1 training. That would be great as well.

    The two main ones I've seen discussed on this forum are Saddlebrook and Newcombe, but not so much others. Are these really the two best ones for adults? I can't say I am too excited about going to the San Antonio area to train, and would rather prefer some place in Florida. But if Newk's where the best training will be, then so be it. I am open to other places as well, just havent seen them discussed much at all.
     
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  2. peoplespeace

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    I cant help u on the camp just wanted to say that I agree very much with ur view on coaches and the non stop praising....had a session with a guy whom i know is good so was looking forward to some solid critizism, so I almost wanted to throw up when he started the patronizing praising of my sub-par shots. How this incessant praising is not a desease in itself but a symptom of a desease, but that is a much longer story..... good luck with the progress ;)
     
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  3. atatu

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    You might be better off going someplace and just booking a week's worth of private lessons. Last year I took my family to a place called the Cedars in Longboat Key, Florida. Everyone there was either older or a 3.5 player, but they had a great Pro there named Robbie, I highly recommend him.
     
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  4. GMay

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    I would agree that you are best off just going someplace and booking some private lessons. I highly recommend Josh Bates in Phoenix who teaches at the Sheraton at White Horse Pass.

    He is one of a handful of tennis pros in the US who has been selected to complete a Masters of Tennis program. My husband and I do not get our normal Saturday morning private lesson this week because he is in Florida for the Masters of Tennis Program and is working with Justin Henin!

    Josh's website is www.batestennis.com.
     
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  5. GMay

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    Forgot to say, I would not recommend Newks at all. Went there once and then got a free week and it was not even worth it to go back even at a cost of zero dollars!
     
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  6. rodrigoamaral

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    I would recommend Gunterman Tennis Schools in Amelia Island, FL.. great place for adults to take their game to the next level.
     
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  7. dbusiness

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    I've been to Saddlebrook about 5 times and had a great time.
    I believe Howard is still in charge of the Adult tennis classes and
    you can always call them and ask how many 4.5 or 5.0 players they have booked for the next week.

    I would try to negotiate some deal were you can do a 1/2 day of group drills/class in the morning and then in the afternoon do 2 1 hour sessions with the 2 top pro's Howard recommends till you find the one right for you. What you have to understand is that most players overrate themselves and Saddlebrook is good about rating you accurately.
     
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    I would second it and not recommend Newks it is a place for a 3.5 - 4.0 player and that is about it........
     
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  9. SuperJimmy

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    Thanks for the feedback! I've done a little bit more research on some of the places mentioned and it looks like Saddlebrook is probably the best bet.

    I've thought about just going with a weeks worth of private sessions before, and could probably stay local for that (and if not, could just drive a few hours up to the Seattle area to where I grew up and trained as a junior as I know the coaches are still there), but the problem for me is more about the repetitions. Unless someone else decided to take a week long vacation like me, I'd be pretty much sititng around after the lesson till the next day or two until someone can hit. The thing with the camp is that pretty much the only thing on everyone's mind is tennis for that week, so I could get a lot of meaningful hitting in.
     
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  10. jl83

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    I recently got back from a 5 day adult camp at IMG/Bollettieri. I know you will get quite a few people probably bashing IMG, but for me I had a positive experience.

    In my class, there were probably only two or three guys that were 4.5 or better, however if you want, they'll bring over some of the full time juniors to play against you if you'd like. Nothing like getting your ass kicked by some 14 year old kid. As for the drills it was very intense and had more than enough tennis for me.
     
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    If you're serious we have a workout group in FL that might meet some of your needs. Our coaches are still playing and winning national championships at the senior level. Most of our group's "students" are 4.5 or above and we regularly play tournaments. It is in a resort area with good facilities but not a structured deal like Saddlebrook, Newcombe etc. srob12@hotmail.com
     
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    SuperJimmy, I know this is late but I'm new to the board - if you have not done the camp or private lessons yet, shoot me an email (edvin70@msn.com)

    I have a great local pro who provides just what you're looking for and we are located in a resort area in coastal South Georgia (St. Simons Island). I've been looking for someone to split such a bootcamp with. You can mix it up between clay and hard and some of his juniors provide excellent match play /workouts.

    Its warm enough here (generally) to do it over the winter and the resort/hotel rates go way down.
     
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  13. spacecadet610

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    SuperJimmy,

    Just wondering if you could share with me any good pros in the Seattle area? I'm looking to get some quality private lesssons.

    I'm a solid 4.5 - 5.0 player.

    THanks!
     
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  14. GMay

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    If you can get a hold of him and get time with him Russ Bucklin is good, His family owns the Forest Crest Tennis Club so you can try calling there to get a hold of him although he on occassion gets his teaching priveleges revoked there -- rather funny!
     
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  15. Texas Scrambler

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    Got the answer

    I have the place and you need to pick the time. Go to NEWKS. No this isn't and advertisement. I go in the winter (live in Calgary and family in Houston) and I am the only student there during the week. It might be a bit lonely but you will get all the advanced instruction a person can handle. The weekend can be crowded with lower rated players but during the week, the instructors will ask you what you want to improve and how long can you go. I made it about 3 1/2 hours till tilt and I am a 4 - 4.5. Call the reservation desk and look for a dead week, almost always in the winter, and go. They will work you tail off. Maybe combine a weekend with some of the week and gain some social. That is what I do.
     
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  16. eliza

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    Hey, I am over-reading. Could you please tell us more about the Bollettieri? Because I know people here (3.0 to 5.0) who absolutely hated there. The Pro (who is the 5.0) could not stop slandering the place as unprofessional, not worth a penny, etc. etc.
     
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  17. TenS_Ace

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    I concur!! I've been to NEWKS 10 times..I'm not a shill for the place, it is ROCK SOLID for training...take the regular classes and then PAY for the extra after hours training(only if you are in shape and can take it)...Texas scrambler...too bad we've never met at NEWKS..I'm from Edmonton!! I'll be at Newks for the Co-ed fantasy weekend in March!! Cheers mate!! Go FLAMES...
     
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  18. jl83

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    Not sure what you want to know. This is the only tennis camp that I've been to, so I have nothing to compare it to. They have the adults strictly on the clay courts. Tons of drilling, some conditioning, match strategy and match play. They have about 3 to 4 adult instructors. People usually sign up for 3 day or 5 day sessions. I didn't experience anything that I would consider unprofessional.

    Whether it's worth the price, I suppose that's debatable. It's probably more expensive than others, but honestly, I really didn't price them all out.
     
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  19. eliza

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    Was it for you? Did you come back home a better player? Or you could just got a machine?
     
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  20. tennisjon

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    I am a 4.5 (almost 5.0) and as an adult have been to Bolletierri, Billy Stern, Saddlebrook, Evert, Van der Meer, Total Tennis, Killington, and Stratton (Cliff Drysdale). I felt that Bolletierri worked me hard, but I had opted to train with the juniors since there was only one other 4.0 there. They didn't say much, but the drills they did and the few pointers they gave were spot on! Saddlebrook had better instruction and an overall better blend of instruction vs. conditioning. Van der Meer, as well as Evert, had very few players so, once again, I got to play with the juniors, which was nice. I even got some match play in with ranked juniors. I Total Tennis is a nice get away, but unless you get the right instructor on the right weekend with players your level, it can be a waste. I have to say, however, that Stratton has the best instruction I have had. Scott, the director, helped both my friend and I improve a half level in one weekend! It is the third time I have gone. They work you well, but also instruct there. If you need more competition, they will arrange it.
     
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  21. jl83

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    I felt like I did come back a better player and I did learn some things that I could not just by using a ball machine. They do give you about a half hour of individual instruction, so that was helpful. It did seem like they devoted more personal time to the ones who needed it more (NTRP 3.5 or less).

    Overall, it was a good experience, but I can't say if I'd do it again. The package was given to me as a gift, so if I was to pay for it, I'd definitely comparison shop.
     
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  22. 60mphserve@9

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    i suggest you go to one of the nike adult camps. its like 4 or 5 days and they have great coaches and only comment if it was either REALLY bad or REALLY good.
     
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  23. Texas Scrambler

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    Thanks Tens Ace

    Ever make it to Calgary for tennis? Just got back from Newks Jan 22-24, 2011 and had a great time. Excellent instruction once again.
     
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  24. TenS_Ace

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    I haven't been back to Calgary for tennis for a long time, since my daughter finished playing junior tennis here in Alberta. We used to hit frequently at the Glencoe, I belong to the RGC in Edmonton, i'd make a trip back to Calgary for some R&R and some hitting if you would attend. Only if the roads aren't ****...Which club do you play out of ??
     
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  25. Texas Scrambler

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    For Tens Ace

    I play out of CTC in the summer and Ricos in the winter. Glencoe is definitely the best indoors but difficult and expensive to join.
     
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    To TenS Ace

    You are a good detective. That is me with the Rock Solid shirt. Sal is on my right and Chris is on my left. Sal and I played 4 games where luckily I was able to nab one game. When he tries, he is smokin good. Awesome onehanded backhand with lots of variability in direction
     
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  28. TenS_Ace

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    Ridiculously AWESOME!! I've a couple Rock Solid tee's from there, along with a FULL trophy case of 3 foot tall Marble trophies from Newks!! I've also got 2 "country club" tee's ....not that is something to brag about!! LOL:twisted:
     
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    Marble Trophies?

    What are the marble trophies from? I haven't seen those yet
     
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  30. TenS_Ace

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    I'll be there for the Fantasy Camp March 3...I'll be sure to get a photo of the marble trophies!! :)
     
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  31. Setmatch45

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    Vandermeer on Hilton Head Island says on there internet site that a few times a year they have camps geared towards 4.0 to 5.5 adult players.
     
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  32. Kick_It

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    I've been to both VanDerMeer and Saddlebrook. It all depends on who is there at the same time as you.

    If you are a serious adult in the US - in my experience - Saddlebrook, hands down.

    Out of 3 days @ Van Der Meer - the best guy I played against was a former DIII player - 1/2 a day out of 4 days. The rest of the days - at best one 4.5 and a couple 4.0s.

    Out of two different trips to Saddlebrook - the best people I played against was a 33 yr old former 350 in the world, and a former DI player. The worst player was a 4.5.

    Good Luck! K_I
     
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  33. eliza

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    I agree. You guys have very good teachers, met one here in the US (he was on vacation and teaching his kid, I ended up joining his "session")....
    If you can go to Italy Fiano Romano is the biggest tennis center, while Canottieri is the poshest club.....
     
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  34. Thud and blunder

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    I've visited Canottieri...didn't play tennis, though...lovely club.
     
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    Yep...this is a tough grouping to find...either by level or amount of players. So you hit it on the head...for US training it's Saddlebrook or Newks and if you were to do the solid other option of privates with the best coach who you certainly won't hear the trite "good job" unless it truly is then you should check out this. Typically team or college teams visit together for private training or matches but this academy is seriously fantastic. http://www.costa-del-tennis.com/adult-tennis-camps-mallorca/

    Good luck~
     
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    Wow! Now this is a first I am hearing a poor comment in respects to Newks. Can you tell me your experience, level, expectations? I find this interesting.
     
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    I agree with the privates for sure but not in relegating yourself to USA tennis lessons...late bloomers.

    I say either Pro AB Barcelona or Global with Porta for real hard core progressive tennis.
     
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  38. AC Tennis

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    Just got back for a week at Newks

    Had a great time. I'm a 4.5 player and got good work outs each day. We only had 8 adults with 3 pros, so got a lot of attention. The group had myself, a couple from Mexico (guy was a 5.0 and the woman a good 4.5), a couple 4.0s and a couple 3.5s. So, as I was on the court with the Mexican couple, I got some good tennis! But if they had not been there, I don't think I would have enjoyed the week quite as much. On the other hand, the pros are very responsive and will do everything they can to make your stay as tennis difficult or easy as you want. Also the food was really good! If you have children, it works well as you can drop them off for a week, have your adult tennis at the same time, then pick them up at the end of the week! I would definitely go again, but would make sure I brought at least one other 4.5 with me.
     
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    can anyone recommend an adult tennis camp in SouthEast US? I live in Atlanta and will be driving.
     
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  40. worldtennis

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    serious tennis you can find it at Sanchez Casal or Bruguera tennis academy in Spain..but they're overpriced and their reputation is not the same anymore. There are other academies in Spain for much less, with a more personalized training and just as good if not more. Costa del tennis has some interesting camps in Spain and they're all intense and good academies. I'm just not sure if you can get the tennis without accommodation. I think the most intense would be the one in Mallorca. Juan Carlos Ferrero's academy is also good, but in the middle of nowhere.
     
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    Amelia Island

    Anyone else been to the tennis facilities at Amelia Island? Planning to visit Amelia Island this summer, and was wondering if it would be worth going to the tennis facility for clinics or round robins while I am there...
     
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    Anyone been to tennis resort at Amelia Island? If so, any feedback or suggestions?
     
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