advice about a manager contract with a junior player

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by gigante, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. gigante

    gigante New User

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    I recently "discovered" this very good 15 year old tennis player from overseas. This player was briefly in the USA and played 4 tournaments. The player won 3 of them, and lost in the final on 1. The player has a lot of potential, based on what many tennis coaches who observed the kid play say. The player was even offered a nice "discount" to joint the Bollitieri academy. This player is now back to the country of origin, and I want to bring this player back to the USA to live with us, compete, and train here in USA. But everyone tells me that I need to have some sort of agreement signed between me and this player. I will be providing room and board, and will also be in charge of sourcing money from sponsors for the player to travel, and pay for coaching, and all other expenses incurred in tennis. I have excellent contacts in the tennis world and can really help this kid. The kid wants to become a professional tennis player, and has the drive, the focus, and determination to pursue it, which I rarely see it in a teenager. It must be because of the kid's background, and socio-economic position in the home country. I am going to be investing a lot of time and money in the kid. The kid may or may not make it to professional. Which is OK with me. I will be so happy if the kid gets a scholarship at some university in USA. At the level the kid plays now, I know the kid can get a scholarship (the kid beat a top college player in an exhibition, and also a PRO ranked in the 700s in another match). The kid's parents want me to take responsability for the kid and want to sign a sort of an "agent/manager - player" agreement. I also feel the need to get a legal guardianship signed, and also get medical insurance, and make sure the kid gets a high school diploma maybe through virtual school. So, it is really like adopting a kid. This kid does not even dream of going to college. The kid is 100% convinced to be professional. I need to know if anyone has some sort of a sample contract that I can use in this case. The idea is that if this kid becomes a professional, I, as an agent will be remunerated accordingly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We are kind of running out of time. The kid is not playing much in the home country due to poor sports infrastructure and opportunities. Thanks for listenning everybody.
     
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  2. OrangeOne

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    It is nothing like adopting a kid. You're seeing dollar-signs down the track. That is NOTHING like adoption.

    If you insist on doing what you plan, there is a very complex contract required, and you would be best off doing it via a management company with you contracted as a manager (but who even says that you have the skills to be a pro-sport manager? Why would you be the kid's best choice instead of IMG? Ugh.).

    So complex. So morally confused. Such a potential nightmare.

    I'll not likely say more and let others balance things. I like the fact you're trying to help a kid achieve his dream. I don't like your underlying motives.

    Altruism is a wonderful concept, especially when it comes to helping kids.
     
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  3. chalkflewup

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    I'm sure the kid can play and I'm sure the kid wants to be pro. Personally, I wouldn't get wrapped up in a management contract for a 15 year old. Bring him over and have him do some damage at Eddie Herr and the Jr. Orange Bowl. I'd also have someone like Saviano look at him. Get his read on the kid as he's not going to sugar coat his assessment. Keep in mind that it's not difficult to get a nice discount from BT in this economy.
     
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  4. Soianka

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    Be careful about the HS diploma through virtual school because that might make it impossible to get NCAA eligibility.
     
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  5. Jen10isFan

    Jen10isFan New User

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    The instant the kids signs an agreement with you that calls for you managing him and/or receiving a portion of his future earnings he can kiss his scholarship goodbye as he will be ineligible under the NCAA rules.
     
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  6. Number1Coach

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    I think you should look at this strictly as business ------- You need to look at him like a racehorse , the difference you can talk to him.

    Keep everything on the table, be straight about your goals and desires you want to spend money on him and in return you want him to make a lot of money for the "both of you"

    Its great living in America and living the American dream!

    Im being hired on to work on a young man in CA his dad is paying me well to work with his son and in return a % will be on the back burner if their is success ,,,,,,,,,yes make sure you sign a contract with him. Its not hard to acquire a contract talk to any lawyer thats what we did.

    Ask IMG who they use.

    -------------------BTW last place to come for advise to many emotional people on here ready to attack you ------------------------------
     
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  7. Number1Coach

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    He is on here seeking advise ,,,,,,,, you know his "motives" and "seem' to conclude they are dark and wrong ! Now have I judged you rightly? -------------------

    Anyways nothing wrong with profiting from someone or something its capitalism at the least,, nothing wrong with that.

    As long as he is straight about it great for him hope he banks on the kid...........
     
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  8. chalkflewup

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    Coach,
    I don't think anyone here attacked him at all. Typically, those who get an earful here usually earn it.

    This kid needs a Plan B because history indicates he will not make it as a professional. I'm not being negative but that's a harsh reality that should not be ignored.
     
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  9. tjwalker097

    tjwalker097 New User

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    You should consult attorney as you may indeed have to become a legal guardian for this kid as he is under 18. You should have written agreement with him and his parents as well.
     
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