Agassi a meth head...so much for ATP drug tests!..

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  1. Inner Game

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    Does this really surprise anyone? Agassi was a punk when he was younger and this "news" further cements that he's not some grand old player who's giving back to tennis and education.
    It makes me sick to see the tennis channel promos for how nice and thoughtful Agassi is at this time in his life driving his schools bus....blah!

    A leopard can't change his spots!

    So much for ATP drug testing....if they can't get Agassi for Meth....then how can they ever catch the Roid boys of today.....I guess the injuries they are now suffering at such a young age is all about Karma!

    There's too much money in tennis now.......hence do anything you can to win....


    I'm out
     
  2. Kemitak

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    Where did you read this?
     
  3. Kemitak

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    Nope. Found it.
     
  4. Power Player

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    Woah..even though he admits to this it does not mean you can take away what he is doing now. That's crazy to say that. The guy could have never said anything about it. If he was "meth head" it would have shown on him. His best playing was later in his career, so obviously the drug did not aid his game.
     
  5. Toxicmilk

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    because having done meth (and not get addicted) totally makes you a bad person, right?
     
  6. federer_FREAK

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    Lmao a player doing crystal meth in 1997 during a time where he barely played any matches means the ATP is allowing players to do anything to win?
     
  7. Kemitak

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    Good stuff!
     
  8. cncretecwbo

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    roid boys? who would that be? I dont see anyone on tour that looks more muscular than even a college football player at the very most.
     
  9. raiden031

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    So trying meth 12 years ago voids all of Agassi's good deeds with his foundation?
     
  10. sheets

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    Sounds like someone is trying to create a base for a Nadal-is-a-doping-cheater argument. Remember different drug policies now. Baseball used to have massive doping problems. Still does but less so.
     
  11. coloskier

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    He admitted it, and at that time he was ranked 141, which means there was nothing to take away from him anyway.
     
  12. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    At least he did admit to using it, what was Martina Hingis excuse for the coke incident? :lol:

    It is what it is, and you heard it from him and not any useless rumor.
     
  13. 8pNADAL

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    i read an agassi biography called 'the agassi and the ecstasy' and the author said he visited agassi just before he turned pro and agassi had one of those massive long nails (with red nail polish) on one of his fingers that tend to be used for drug use, so im not surprised by what agassi is admitting to
     
  14. Datacipher

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    Agassi had that long fingernail for a brief time around the end of 1989. MANY years before this incident was said to have happened. EVERYONE knew about the fingernail, he played a tennis tournament with it clearly visible.
     
  15. 8pNADAL

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    sounds cool
     
  16. PCXL-Fan

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    Baseball is still riddled a mountain of drug problems.

    Baseball has an amphetamine doping problem as well. Because stimulants such as amphetamine enhance reaction time. Perfect for batters. Quite a similar meth (methamphetamine).

    But amphetamine was banned in 2006. So the players switched to Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) medication in order to obtain amphetamine and other amphetamine like drugs used to treat adhd, because they enhance reaction time too.

    In order to obtain Attention Deficit disorder medication, they either obtain it illegally via under the table methods or legally obtain a prescription to treat this disorder that they "apparently" suffer from.

    Now roughly 7.6% of baseball players claim to suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder and legally obtain prescription for ADD meds. The highest in any occupation in the world.

    This is a jump from ~1% ritalin use prior to the ban of amphetamine.

    Undoubtedly rates of ritalin use are higher, as ritalin is so easily obtained for use on campus's across northamerica by minimum wage earning students. Also continued use of amphetamines can lead to dependence, and symptoms of amphetamine dependence is almost indistinguishable from adhd.



    Baseball's Other Drug Problem - Newsweek

    Ritalin on first, Dexedrine on second... - Psychology Today
     
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  17. wyutani

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    do u have proof here?
     
  18. Leelord337

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    vitas gerulaitis and john mcenroe used to do cocaine, i am not sure about agassi doing meth but i know he used to stack jack daniels bottles in his room at bollettieri's

    btw i'm proud of agassi admitting his faults. He is human afterall. Its either admit it to the public or take it to the grave with him...i've gained more respect for andre and this makes me want to buy hit autobiography

    *comes out 11-9-09*
     
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  19. wyutani

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    but hes retired. who cares?

    best thing now is for the atp to take back all his grand slam prize money. that will show him.

    he should be punished.
     
  20. 8pNADAL

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    wouldnt they just strip him of anything he won for the 3 month period in 1997? he would have got a 3 month suspension for it (recreational drug ban) if he owned up to it back then

     
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  21. PCXL-Fan

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    In theory meth can provide a temporary performance enhancement along with all its horribly damaging effects. Such as faster reaction time. Germany and Japan both used meth containing drugs during ww2 on their troops, before discontinuing it later in the war as they discovered it was ruining troops minds. Initially germany's meth containing drug (Pervitin) was a key element of the Blitzkreig tactics.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,354606,00.html
     
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  22. Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

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    Its just a recreational drug and he was at the bottom of his career. Its not like it was a performance Nadal enhancer.
     
  23. jamesblakefan#1

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    Agassi knew a suspension for drug use, especially one as bad as meth, would probably do serious damage to his rep. He didn't want to take that chance.
     
  24. bertrevert

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    Good on him. I'm glad he experimented... his soul exudes joy and warmth. He's lived life. His charitable work amplifies his legacy. His drug taking make him all the more human.

    At that moment, slumping in his career, it is understandable that he reached out for other highs. His climb back is made all the more remarkable. Get off your high horse those who wish to criticise him.
     
  25. don_nguyen11490

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    This is an outrage. We must crucify him immediately.

    Let us ignore all the good things he is doing because that clearly does not matter
     
  26. Morrissey

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    You guys really needed something to talk about these days huh. I guess it takes away from the daily Fed worshipping and Nadal bashing.
     
  27. Gorecki

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    it puzzles me how can someone stand on such a high horse! carefull yuo might fall!

    News Flash Jerk: you get what you give... so yes... it's about Karma. IF Agassi is beloved worldwide, it must be Karma kicking it back to him, that "meth head" no?

    in your medieval mind he must be a sourcerer, therefore he should be fried in hot oil, not before testing if he can or not float...
     
  28. Baikalic

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    Don't waste your time dude, the OP is always "im out" because he can't support his claims.
     
  29. big bang

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    so F..... what??? a lot of ppl took some kind of drugs in their youth, does that make them worse as a person? not at all.
    its not like he did meth before every match in his prime.
    who are you to judge anyone for trying meth, what counts in life is how you act and treat other ppl.. Jerk!!
     
  30. Gorecki

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    guess you are right. cowardly making trollish statements and not staying to back it up should give him a few weeks off if i was a MOD.
     
  31. sureshs

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    If you read the news properly, you would have learned that the ATP caught him by testing.
     
  32. pmerk34

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    What are you babbling about- he FAILED an ATP drug test.
     
  33. Rabbit

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    And if you had read the article properly, you'd have read that the ATP didn't disclose anything....a double standard exists for the top players and those not on top like Puerta, Canas, and the recent cocaine user....
     
  34. pmerk34

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    And the juicer Nadal
     
  35. the green god

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    You guys understand nothing about PED's. You do not have to huge to be using. They are used for recovery, stamina, and strength. Their goal isn't to get huge, it is to become a better athlete. To get huge they would have to lift some serious heavy weights and eat a ton of food and that is not going to make them better tennis players. But golly gee whiz, none of our heroes would do that now would they.;)
     
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    +1 and a top candidate for best post ever.
     
  37. dropshot winner

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    No big deal that Agassi took speed.

    The shocking part is how the ATP bought Agassi's lie. It makes me wonder how many top players have been covered in the last few years.

    Every player could possibily say after failing a drug-test:

    "I didn't take Cera/Insulin/Roids knowingly, I just happened to drink a spiked Soda".
     
  38. jwbarrientos

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    He should return some prize? money? aplogy will be welcome to ATP Tours, players with many issues got banned for 2 years.

    Andre still has my big consideration, but he missconduct talks a lot.
     
  39. Stefan83

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    Big disappointment and I lost some respect for Agassi, just because he was stressed does not make it ok. :-|
     
  40. ronjohn

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    Disagree on pretty much every point. Many people experiement with drugs, pro athelete or not... The ATP has tougher standards than most sports.

    Agassi has been a good guy throughout his career.

     
  41. sureshs

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    This was 12 years ago. Times have changed. You need to move on.
     
  42. dropshot winner

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    No, only the substances have.
     
  43. sureshs

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    Federer's endurance always looked suspicious to me
     
  44. dropshot winner

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    It is remarkable, but what would you call Nadal's then, who has been able to outlast Federer multiple times?
     
  45. sureshs

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    I was just kidding. None of these guys are doping.
     
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    The ATP does not have tougher standards. The fact that they swept this, Gasquet's case, and the steroid anomalies during the 90s under the rug only reinforces the suspicion that the ATP could easily be covering another top player up right now.
     
  47. dropshot winner

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    Maybe those two don't need to, but you can bet on the fact that a few players in the top10 are not clean.

    It's not difficult to get away with it, nor is it hard to get those substances, the benefits are well known too.
     
  48. NamRanger

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    One thing for sure, this incident proves that there is a PRECEDENCE now that has been discovered that shows the ATP covers up a player due to his marquee name.
     
  49. BHud

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    That explains Brooke!
     
  50. tintin

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    no wonder Santoro said Roger Federer is the only recent world #1 who he believed was clean
     

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